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    The criteria should not be how well along you get with them, but being as objective as you can, how much worth do you think this type carries (based on your experience of course). If you don't have experience with all the types, or you do not have enough confidence in the typings, just fill in the ones you can. Just want to see if any patterns emerge, and if they are in accordance with inter-type relations.


    ILE-Ne - 8
    ILE-Ti - 7
    ESE-Fe - 7
    ESE-Si - 4
    LII-Ti - 7
    LII-Ne - 6
    SEI-Si - 4
    SEI-Fe - 7

    SLE-Se - 7
    SLE-Ti - 6
    EIE-Fe - 7
    EIE-Ni - 5
    LSI-Ti - 5
    LSI-Se - 5
    IEI-Ni - 9
    IEI-Fe - 5

    SEE-Se - 9
    SEE-Fi - 9
    LIE-Te - 6
    LIE-Ni - 7
    ILI-Ni - 8
    ILI-Te - 6
    ESI-Fi - 6
    ESI-Se - 7

    IEE-Ne - 8
    IEE-Fi - 6
    LSE-Te - 6
    LSE-Si - 8
    SLI-Si - 8
    SLI-Te - 8
    EII-Fi - 9
    EII-Ne - 7
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    They all get tens, because everyone is valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Yeah, I find this kind of ranking very odd.

    How much a type is "worth"? Based on what criteria?

    I could maybe give a ranking in terms of which types are more valuable to society, or more valuable for myself, but in general - objectively?
    I don't think that's possible.
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    I think OP is asking how much we think each type is worth to society based on our own personal experiences...?


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    I could rank them by how much I would like to be around them, like if I was offered a stranger to spend time with and could only pick their sociotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I could rank them by how much I would like to be around them, like if I was offered a stranger to spend time with and could only pick their sociotype.
    But that would have something to do with how well you get on with them...

    I think since OP is a Te type he is asking us to rate the usefulness of each type objectively

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    Do it however you please. How much you like each type is fine.

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    OooOOooOOhh this is a very exercise. Nice! I use a 100% scale so the differences are more pronounced.

    ILE - Goes from initial 55 to almost 90 the more we interact, this one is a surprise box.
    SEI - 85
    ESE - 60
    LII - 30

    SLE - 20
    IEI - 60, in some moments 80 cuz intuition
    LSI - 10
    EIE - 45

    SEE - 100 (SEE people are my smol cupids.)
    ILI - 90
    LIE - 65
    ESI - 20, 30, it really fluctuates

    SLI - 95
    IEE - 1000, some ultra sync going on
    LSE - 60
    EII - 99

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    How much I would like their company:

    ILE-Ne - 6.5
    ILE-Ti - 4.5
    ESE-Fe - 5.5
    ESE-Si - 6.5
    LII-Ti - 5
    LII-Ne - 7
    SEI-Si - 9
    SEI-Fe - 6.5

    SLE-Se - 2
    SLE-Ti - 3
    EIE-Fe - 2
    EIE-Ni - 1
    LSI-Ti - 2
    LSI-Se - 1
    IEI-Ni - 3.5
    IEI-Fe - 2

    SEE-Se - 4
    SEE-Fi - 7
    LIE-Te - 6
    LIE-Ni - 5
    ILI-Ni - 5.5
    ILI-Te - 6
    ESI-Fi - 7
    ESI-Se - 6

    IEE-Ne - 6
    IEE-Fi - 9
    LSE-Te - 5.5
    LSE-Si - 6
    SLI-Si - 7.5
    SLI-Te - 8
    EII-Fi - 8
    EII-Ne - 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    I can adore a person for his or her qualities but dislike their type. Our misunderstandings or conflicts rarely arise from fault in character but from incompatible functions that make any interaction a trial of patience.
    It's like watching tigers in the zoo. I am amazed by them, however I prefer a fence me an these dangerous animals.
    Besides, conflict or uncomfortable situations with someone are also a direct result of my own conscious and unconscious behavior.
    Therefore I can't rate the types but the quality of our interaction.


    ESE: 6
    SEI: 3
    ILE: 6
    LII: -


    EIE: 4
    IEI: 9
    SLE: 8 if healthy
    LSI: 7


    SEE:8
    ESI:7
    LIE:6
    ILI:6


    IEE:6
    EII: 4
    LSE:7
    SLI:7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    I can adore a person for his or her qualities but dislike their type. Our misunderstandings or conflicts rarely arise from fault in character but from incompatible functions that make any interaction a trial of patience.
    It's like watching tigers in the zoo. I am amazed by them, however I prefer a fence me an these dangerous animals.
    Besides, conflict or uncomfortable situations with someone are also a direct result of my own conscious and unconscious behavior.
    Therefore I can't rate the types but the quality of our interaction.
    Yes, good perspective.

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    we already have this scale, its called annual income

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    I don't even know 100%, take it with a grain of salt. Obviously, it depends more on person than type. How much I'd feel comfortable with them:

    ESE: 7
    SEI: 8
    ILE: 4
    LII: 6

    EIE: 4
    IEI: 8
    SLE: 6
    LSI: 7

    SEE: 9
    ESI: 7
    LIE: 2
    ILI: 6

    IEE: 7
    EII: 6
    LSE: 2
    SLI: 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    we already have this scale, its called annual income
    In which LIE takes the crown!

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    Well this is really obvious but this doesn't mean my type necessarily gets along or doesn't get along with that type, I coulda just been unlucky (or lucky) to meet a lot of ppl from that type where it worked out that way. (this is on a scale of 1 to 100%) I also can't break this down into subtype or instinct stackings or anything like that blah.

    IEI - 50
    SLE - 75
    EIE - 35
    LSI - 40

    EII - 20
    LSE - 25
    IEE - 35
    SLI - 30

    ESE - 45
    ILE - 80
    SEI - 40
    LII - 85/90

    SEE - 95
    LIE - 55
    ILI - 15
    ESI - 60

    so I get along with ILIs and EIIs the least. Sorry Maritsa. =( and of course there are exceptions to every rule but this is how it usually goes... there are a lot of things about ILEs I don't like, but talking about them is just really the easiest and smoothest and natural and I'm not socially anxious with them like I am a lot of people. And intjs are just loveable.

    SLE is my dual but its only 75 (maybe even 70) because there is a lot of sexual chemistry but we are often too different to wanna spend much time together. They wanna be wild and physical and I'm a pussy who likes taking it easy. The lifestyle goals clash, but it is stereotypically romantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    They all get tens, because everyone is valuable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    How much I would like their company:

    LSI-Ti - 2
    LSI-Se - 1
    :*

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post
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    Oh, yeah. I forgot you exist. I was basing it off LSIs I have nothing in common with and are awkward to be around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    this looks like one of those threads where people use a categorical system of social classification, which may or may not hold weight in reality, as petty means to make blanket statements about other people, instead of using it to better understand themselves and people different from themselves. it doesn't help that there's a high likelihood the majority of us are mistyped, as well as the people we're thinking of when we respond to these threads, so it's merely a roundabout method of projecting our general frustrations concerning humanity as a whole, along with our personal insecurities, onto a group of individuals we've been told to dislike by said categorical system. it's no different from the prejudiced attitudes we condemn in society. with that said, i made a chart.




    ILE = 61% (7+9+6+8+0+2+9+8 = 49/80)
    LII = 25% (1+5+1+9+3+1+0+0 = 20/80)
    ESE = 56% (7+7+7+0+2+7+8+8 = 46/80)
    SEI = 64% (8+4+8+4+4+5+9+9 = 51/80)

    SLE = 71% (8+9+8+7+0+9+8+8 = 57/80)
    LSI = 55% (4+7+2+7+2+8+7+7 = 44/80)
    EIE = 79% (8+7+8+9+7+7+9+8 = 63/80)
    IEI = 78% (8+10+9+7+9+1+9+9 = 62/80)

    LIE = 65% (7+10+3+8+3+7+7+7 = 52/80)
    ILI = 66% (5+7+6+9+8+5+7+6 = 53/80)
    SEE = 81% (9+9+8+7+5+8+10+9 = 65/80)
    ESI = 69% (7+8+7+6+5+7+7+8 = 55/80)

    LSE = 42% (2+8+2+7+2+8+2+3 = 34/80)
    SLI = 53% (5+6+5+6+3+6+6+5 = 42/80)
    IEE = 79% (9+6+9+8+8+6+8+9 = 63/80)
    EII = 55% (7+0+10+7+7+0+7+6 = 44/80)

    SEE > IEE = EIE > IEI > SLE > ESI > ILI > LIE > SEI > ILE > ESE > LSI = EII > SLI > LSE > LII
    Beta > Gamma > Alpha > Delta
    Se-Ni > Ne-Si
    Fe-Ti > Te-Fi

    tl;dr don't be LII

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    OK. Someone is on Te high. I have always wanted to meet ******. Looks like my dream is about to come true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Oh, yeah. I forgot you exist. I was basing it off LSIs I have nothing in common with and are awkward to be around.
    As long as I'm your exception

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Yeah, I find this kind of ranking very odd.
    Yeah, let's ask quantitative measures from Te PoLR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    OooOOooOOhh this is a very exercise. Nice! I use a 100% scale so the differences are more pronounced.
    Nah. There exists a infinity inside a finite continuous interval. That is an example of freaking Ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    Yeah, let's ask quantitative measures from Te PoLR.
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    OK , I have analyzed all the dimensions and norm of the value ||value|| was calculated using expanded Pythagorean theorem where all the dimensions were independent of each other.

    ILE -
    LII 8.3423
    SEI 9.41212123
    ESE 8.3424

    SLE 6.6452154
    LSI 7.000001
    IEI 8.234554787
    EIE 7.4485657489

    SEE 6.45457
    ESI 3.5645
    ILI 5.10105
    LIE 6.11111111144444445

    LSE 7.10110005
    SLI 8.2478
    EII 7.1545
    IEE 8.89719
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Do you've got a problem with me, or are you just having a bad day?
    Just procrastination and found it bit funny. You are OK.
    Should I give a value?
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    Objectively worth the most? I'd say Te egos are the best at making money, but they need to rely on the ideas of Ne egos and the social institutions of Fe egos. Also, the social institutions of Fe egos would fall apart and the ideas of Ne egos would never be used if it wasn't for the sound business logic of Te egos, and that is just one example. Even if the title "most valuable type" could be proven, that type couldn't do much without the contributions of the others.

    As for how I feel about them personally, I like alphas and betas. I like Deltas for short periods of time. I put up with gammas.

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    L=3 E=1 I=4 S=2

    LII/ILE * ESE/SEI= I/E * E/I = 1


    LSI/SLE * EIE/IEI = I/E * E/I = 1

    ILI/LIE * SEE/ESI = I/E * E/I = 1

    SLI/LSE * IEE/EII = I/E * E/I = 1

    All the same, really.
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    I'll give means and likely ranges(cap to 0-10 as needed)

    ILE: 3.5 +/- 5
    SEI: 2.5 +/- 2
    ESE: 3.5 +/- 3
    LII: 2.5 +/- 4

    SLE: 3.5 +/- 4
    IEI: 4.5 +/- 2
    EIE: 5 +/- 4.5
    LSI: 3.5 +/- 3

    SEE: 2 +/- 7
    ILI: 4 +/- 3
    LIE: 5 +/- 5
    ESI: 5 +/- 3

    IEE: 2 +/- 3.5
    SLI: 4 +/- 5
    LSE: 4 +/- 6
    EII: 4 +/- 5

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    If anyone cares to check it out, here is my extensive blog entry on the subject.
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    May change over time

    ILE - 7
    SEI - 4-5
    ESE - 9
    LII - 8

    SLE - 5
    IEI - ?
    LSI - 8
    EIE - 8

    SEE - 5
    ILI - ?
    LIE - ?
    ESI - 3

    SLI - 3
    IEE - 6-9
    LSE - 6
    EII - 8

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    Based on how well I get along with them, I can honestly say it depends on the person. Also my mood. Not that there aren’t some predictable dynamics going on wrt communication based on type strengths and values, but everyone has their own demons and I attempt to adapt to them as best I can and judge them as objectively as I can too.

    Every type of person has equal worth (excluding serial killers etc.). The premise of this topic/question is an immoral one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    The premise of this topic/question is an immoral one.
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    The criteria should not be how well along you get with them, but being as objective as you can, how much worth do you think this type carries (based on your experience of course). (-snip-) Just want to see if any patterns emerge, and if they are in accordance with inter-type relations.
    this is like rating fruits. no place for morals here

    kiwi: 4 ,too sour for my taste

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    this is like rating fruits. no place for morals here

    kiwi: 4 ,too sour for my taste
    Because morality for fruits should be applied to humans @_@

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Because morality for fruits should be applied to humans @_@
    You missed the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by mclane View Post
    (-snip-) Just want to see if any patterns emerge, and if they are in accordance with inter-type relations.
    The premise of the thread has nothing to do with morality. I'm sure everyone is doing the best they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    You missed the point.



    The premise of the thread has nothing to do with morality. I'm sure everyone is doing the best they can.
    ... How does it not?! It’s about judging people’s worth as human beings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
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    ILE-Ne - 0
    ILE-Ti - 0
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    SEI-Si - 1
    SEI-Fe - 1

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    IEI-Ni - 9
    IEI-Fe - 9

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    The criteria should not be how well along you get with them, but being as objective as you can, how much worth do you think this type carries (based on your experience of course)

    This criteria is pretty stupid,
    so imma just do my own thing. I basically start at 5 ('average') and add or subtract, and I don't use 0. Not certain I know a subtype of every type, so I'll just tackle the primary types:

    Alpha

    ESE - 7 (My Mum)
    SEI - 6 (An Ex)
    ILE - 5 (An Ex)
    LII - 7 (Close friend)

    Beta

    EIE - 8 (My First Love)
    IEI - 8 (Couple people)
    SLE - 8 (Foster Brothers)
    LSI - 10 (Three best friends throughout my life)

    Gamma

    SEE - 7 (An Ex)
    ESI - 8 (@hag and a lass I dated)
    LIE - 6 (A close friend)
    ILI - 6 (Numerous old buds)

    Delta

    IEE - 4 (Past roommate)
    EII - 3 (An ex)
    LSE - 2 (Couple foster parents)
    SLI - 2 (Acquaintances; they put the quaint in acquaintance)
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    such experiences are under high influence of typing mistakes which are common, taking into account <20% average typing match

    while subtypes is not developed theory to use it. for example, to identify them

    also from objective point all types are equal. only subjective perception may differ. and concrete regions where different functions mb useful in different degree

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