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    being a state that is very "flow-like", what expressions are there? Looking for chill things, post whatever comes to your mind

    My all-time fav tune with a comedic twist:


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    Nice floating skills


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    Released just today. <3


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    I had an SLI ex and she really liked built to spill. i didn't really understand it but I'm thinking maybe its a Si thing. please verify (maybe it has nothing to do with Si, but I'm curious)

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    ^Singing about death... nice bedtime song.

    I don't if overall delta culture makes beta Finns express themselves like this
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    /soft grinding


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    Sorry for being so boring but I don't think Si is a "state of flow". That's more Ni. A better (but incomplete) way to describe it is "physical impressions".

    Si base people don't seem flow-like. They seem impressionistic.

    However, if you have suggestive Si, you might percieve Si as flow-like, but I think that is more related to the nature of the suggestive function than Si.

    "Let's groove" with EW&F that @Singularity posted has some nice texture in the base and drum that I would call Si-related. It has a very "acoustic feel" to it.

    I'm just gonna post some videos with SEI or SLI musicians:

    Paco de Lucia (SLI): Entre dos aguas
    Björk (SEI): It's oh so quiet
    Simon Ghraichy (SEI) classical pianist. Interview

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Sorry for being so boring but I don't think Si is a "state of flow". That's more Ni. A better (but incomplete) way to describe it is "physical impressions".

    Si base people don't seem flow-like. They seem impressionistic.

    However, if you have suggestive Si, you might percieve Si as flow-like, but I think that is more related to the nature of the suggestive function than Si.

    "Let's groove" with EW&F that @Singularity posted has some nice texture in the base and drum that I would call Si-related. It has a very "acoustic feel" to it.

    I'm just gonna post some videos with SEI or SLI musicians:

    Paco de Lucia (SLI): Entre dos aguas
    Björk (SEI): It's oh so quiet
    Simon Ghraichy (SEI) classical pianist. Interview
    Sensory details, I think.
    I'm bit clueless.

    Let's assume you compose music. Can you describe your process and thoughts?

    I have seen SEI using sound effects comically. Something appears from somewhere and suddenly sound effect changes situation completely.

    Would you say that in contrast tries to change your state of mind to another place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Sorry for being so boring but I don't think Si is a "state of flow". That's more Ni. A better (but incomplete) way to describe it is "physical impressions".

    Si base people don't seem flow-like. They seem impressionistic.

    However, if you have suggestive Si, you might percieve Si as flow-like, but I think that is more related to the nature of the suggestive function than Si.
    I can fake access through intuition only Harmony tunes would be better I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Sorry for being so boring but I don't think Si is a "state of flow". That's more Ni. A better (but incomplete) way to describe it is "physical impressions".

    Si base people don't seem flow-like. They seem impressionistic.
    Impressionism is flow-like. It has lots of light glimmering off of water and those kinds of things. Or have you never seen an impressionist painting? In any case, describing a person as impressionistic is rather odd. Jung used impressionism to describe Si and now that's just become what Si is. But then, people are obsessed with impressionism outside of typology too for whatever reason so that's not necessarily completely left-field. I have to really look to find books and resources even for well-known Renaissance painters because it's all a sea of Monet and Degas stuff that I don't really care about

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    Static image captures the state. State can have properties that be extrapolated to go backwards and forwards if there is a change. However there can be details that indicates change based on our own experimental data. In certain cases a person can apply impressionistic techniques to indicate what is happening if there are no indicators or it needs additional effect and therefore change in temporal space is only a snapshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Impressionism is flow-like. It has lots of light glimmering off of water and those kinds of things. Or have you never seen an impressionist painting? In any case, describing a person as impressionistic is rather odd. Jung used impressionism to describe Si and now that's just become what Si is. But then, people are obsessed with impressionism outside of typology too for whatever reason so that's not necessarily completely left-field. I have to really look to find books and resources even for well-known Renaissance painters because it's all a sea of Monet and Degas stuff that I don't really care about
    When I said that Si people are impressionistic I meant that the person is perceiving and reacting to all kinds of impressions arising from the body, and objects around him. Impressions from texture, surfaces, viscosity, dust, natural materials etc. I don't think it's anything odd with that. It's simply what one sees in these people. One problem is that many SEIs try to suppress these impressions because it would not be socially acceptable for example at work. And it is mostly unproductive by normal standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    Sensory details, I think.
    I'm bit clueless.

    Let's assume you compose music. Can you describe your process and thoughts?

    I have seen SEI using sound effects comically. Something appears from somewhere and suddenly sound effect changes situation completely.

    Would you say that in contrast tries to change your state of mind to another place?
    Hmm, I don't think SEI are good composers, that's mostly an intuitive thing. Of course there are always exceptions. But if I would compose music I would mostly jump right into it I think and try out different things. Experimenting with different instruments, sounds and textures.

    I have seen SEI using sound effects comically.
    Yes, that's very SiFe I think. A certain sensation is noticed for evoking an emotional reaction and then it is focused upon and used.

    Would you say that in contrast tries to change your state of mind to another place?
    I've tried thinking about it but I can't say how Ne relates to this. Other than that Ne seems to have everything that Si is lacking and vice versa.

    I could also call Si the "soul of the object" (technically speaking a projection), because that's how it's perceived. Ne would be the potential of the object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I can fake access through intuition only Harmony tunes would be better I guess
    Here's one explanation: Flow music puts the listener in a relaxed state. This relaxed states evokes body impressions that could be Si related. The music is indirectly Si. Kind of like listening to an irritating song evokes an emotional reaction. Indirect Fe.

    But if we want to find Si in the music itself then imo one should pay attention to the sound/texture of the instruments. For example, listening to Mozart string trio played on period instruments. The sound here could be Si related. But the experience here is very narrow because it's such a specialized field of impressions.
    EDIT: The music itself is relaxing but let's forget about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I've tried thinking about it but I can't say how Ne relates to this. Other than that Ne seems to have everything that Si is lacking and vice versa.
    I have no idea how to produce applicable sound even if I could imagine something mentally. I lack in sensing department.
    creatives have better control over sensing department.
    I meant Ni. IEI who lifts up SLE. It is a quite a cliché but I think rather apparent.(?) When I'm around IEI: Yes it happened.... I'm OK or at least I'll handle mental garbage myself. I'm ready to reinvent parts of myself if there's a need according to external world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Kind of like listening to an irritating song evokes an emotional reaction. Indirect Fe.
    How is that indirect?

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