Alice in Wonderland - Ne or Ni?

[Chae]

Considering the overall cultural oevre (novel, recent movies), is it a more of a or content?

I always perceived the story as very intuitive. Through the Looking Glass sure was due to time travel but I refer to the general topic. Having an alternative world, alternative you, all these fantastical creatures and landscapes. To me, that's > , what do you think?

[Tigerfadder]

She shrink in size while everything else is big and change that perspective. The cat whom smiles, while no cats in real life smiles. I would just boil it down to perspective elements, she experience the world of crazy. Maybe Si in a Ne world.

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[Alomoes]

I love the books. It is kind of like a weird and bad dream. Pretty sure that would be complete possibility on the first glance, but when you go deeper, there is semblance of logic to each thing that happens. This is much more evident in the sequal, which is more like an anthology for poems. As such, I'd say Ne and Ti. I haven't read it in a long time, though, so I'm not the most familiar with the content on hand. I've always related it to having a bad migraine and experiencing the visions that I see sometimes under said migraines which I don't get anymore.

[Chae]

Now that I think about it, it is sort of a Terry Pratchettian manner of delivery, he's also Ne ego.

[darya]

Ne imo

[Exodus]

I would say there is an element of both.

It is Ni in the general sense of being an elaborate fantasy, but it's also used as a backdrop for various intellectual TiNe puzzles and language games. I've always seen Carroll as Alpha NT but maybe LII is better due to the Ni content.

[niffer]

"going down the rabbit hole" is Ni for sure.... but all those ridiculous characters and worlds and imagery with the crazy wordplay is Ne galore! doesn't set my DS off, that's for sure. maybe in a weird miragey way at most.

[Chae]

Cheshire cat carries a lot of spirit imo, it sums up quite a lot concerning the overall mentality.

[Pallas]

"going down the rabbit hole" is Ni for sure.... but all those ridiculous characters and worlds and imagery with the crazy wordplay is Ne galore! doesn't set my DS off, that's for sure. maybe in a weird miragey way at most.

Yeah, I wanted to throw this in "delta-NF-on-shrooms classic children's books" although alpha probably works better. It seems demo to me and there's way more focus on generalities than just individual relationships and events (which is what I tend to see as the difference between Merry vs. Judicious in writing, and also why most writers are in Merry aside from -valuing just being overall more conducive to writing, since writing about generalities tends to be seen as more "profound" and tends to last more over time) which makes it lean alpha to me even. Maybe alpha NTs just are delta NFs on shrooms

The rest of the list consisted of:
Through the Looking Glass (the sequel)
Anything by Roald Dahl
A Wrinkle in Time (and the rest of that series)
Phantom Tollbooth
Flatland
Half Magic

These are probably Alpha > Delta generally, but still some weird mix of strong valued and strong devalued (also generally the only kind of thing besides what I call "dead dog books" that was readily accessible when I was way younger, and "dead dog books" were something I threw in the same category as soap operas and completely loathed).

[Delilah]

seems Ne to me

[Chae]

Caterpillar right here... is he more on the side of the movie?



(Or probably just Alan Rickman delivering yet another good ILI-inspired performance)

[The Reality Denialist]

Essentially: when mathematics meets creative writing.

It ignores laws physics just manipulates mathematical objects and builds characters around it.

Reminds me of my own brain.

[Exodus]

Yeah, I wanted to throw this in "delta-NF-on-shrooms classic children's books" although alpha probably works better. It seems demo to me and there's way more focus on generalities than just individual relationships and events (which is what I tend to see as the difference between Merry vs. Judicious in writing, and also why most writers are in Merry aside from -valuing just being overall more conducive to writing, since writing about generalities tends to be seen as more "profound" and tends to last more over time) which makes it lean alpha to me even. Maybe alpha NTs just are delta NFs on shrooms

The rest of the list consisted of:
Through the Looking Glass (the sequel)
Anything by Roald Dahl
A Wrinkle in Time (and the rest of that series)
Phantom Tollbooth
Flatland
Half Magic

These are probably Alpha > Delta generally, but still some weird mix of strong valued and strong devalued (also generally the only kind of thing besides what I call "dead dog books" that was readily accessible when I was way younger, and "dead dog books" were something I threw in the same category as soap operas and completely loathed).

I loved all of those books as a kid (except Flatland which I didn't read until I was older, it seemed boring). (but btw, I think Madeleine L'Engle is probably EIE.)

[mclane]

It is +Ne/-Ni based (Alpha Ne and Beta Ni). Those weird wacky things are usually this combined IM. Note that it can be enjoyed by any other types, as long as they appreciate input from these IM's.

[niffer]