You must choose one

[The Exception]

And the clock strikes XII.............

[Not A Communist Shill]

I can only really compare you to myself, and understand how you could see each type as realistic possibilities. Being used to you self-typing as LII, and not seeing anything to contradict that, I am more naturally inclined that way, except that I have a rule not to seriously doubt someone's self-typing (i.e. EII) unless there are strong reasons not to: I have no strong reason to doubt the EII self-typing except that, if I was to type you from scratch, I might not readily think of such a typing (basically, I don't know you so well, and I know individuals, especially introverts, are able to keep key aspects of themselves private!).

[The Exception]

Why aren't more people voting here?

[The Exception]

I am very disappointed in this forum. Only three people have voted. Certainly more than three people have read this thread.

[Not A Communist Shill]

Why aren't more people voting here?

I think even if I could choose one type, it would be very hard to also choose a subtype.

[Myst]

I'll add this bit here. I was wondering if your "feely" side is being a well-dualized LII.

[The Exception]

I'll add this bit here. I was wondering if your "feely" side is being a well-dualized LII.

Either that or my "thinky" side is a well-dualized EII.

[wacey]

To be honest I just don't think you could handle a LSE dual. You just seem like a really sweet LII. Nothing unusual there.

[Myst]

Either that or my "thinky" side is a well-dualized EII.

Ehh even the joke in your profile is LII af

Anyway, I'll copypaste some lines from that other thread, since it belongs here more:


"Btw you are the most Ti-oriented EII I've ever seen with preferences like

"A. Comes from an ideology I have accepted, with my actions consistent with its stated principles.
A. Having the information organized in a model, makes it easier and more efficient for me to learn if I can see how all the points are connected to each other.
A. I have a strong need for everything to make sense in my own mind, that’s a greater need than efficiency.""


But sure, feel free to play around with types to satisfy your Ne creative or something

[Muddy]

I am very disappointed in this forum. Only three people have voted. Certainly more than three people have read this thread.

Yeah this place has really gone down the gutter as of late.

[Simo]

Why aren't more people voting here?

Don't tell people they must choose and expect them to obey at least offer something as a reward

[The Exception]

Don't tell people they must choose and expect them to obey at least offer something as a reward

I promise to like your post.

[Simo]

I promise to like your post.

This isn't really very motivating for me
but it looks like this thread is since last year, are you still unclear which is your type?

[The Exception]

This isn't really very motivating for me
but it looks like this thread is since last year, are you still unclear which is your type?

Well I just became quite sure of EII but seeing that the overwhelming majority is voting for LII, I may swing again.

[Sol]

Well I just became quite sure of EII but seeing that the overwhelming majority is voting for LII, I may swing again.

Without video they have no enough data to type you. It's rather possible to mistake with such.

> overwhelming majority is voting for LII, I may swing again

base T types don't care much about what "majority is voting" as they think themselves ok. they study the subject and think

[Simo]

Well I just became quite sure of EII but seeing that the overwhelming majority is voting for LII, I may swing again.

good so I don't really need to vote

[The Exception]

good so I don't really need to vote

I'm curious what you would vote for though.

[Simo]

I'm curious what you would vote for though.

well I remember my impression from your video (or part of it) was EII, but @Myst said you are LII and I respect her opinion as her conclusions seem well grounded, well thought out (from what I have seen) and she knows you way better than I do

and most importantly she gave me a scary look

[The Exception]

For anyone who cares, I'm back to LII-Ne as my self typing. EII is a close second.

[Simo]

For anyone who cares, I'm back to LII-Ne as my self typing. EII is a close second.

And why did you go back to lii ?

[The Exception]

And why did you go back to lii ?

It was the logical thing to do.

[Simo]

It was the logical thing to do.

This doesn't explain much
I'm asking because yesterday I was thinking the same for some reason ( I don't even know why I started thinking about your type )
But I thought it was weird that someone who is clearly Ti dom to say that you too are Ti dom and so I should double check that but I had other things and didn't do any checking
That's why I would like to hear your thoughts

[The Exception]

This doesn't explain much
I'm asking because yesterday I was thinking the same for some reason ( I don't even know why I started thinking about your type )
But I thought it was weird that someone who is clearly Ti dom to say that you too are Ti dom and so I should double check that but I had other things and didn't do any checking
That's why I would like to hear your thoughts

On a fundamental level, I am systematizing what's around me, making logical sense out things and creating principles. I strive for consistency, to have things follow these principles. I've done more introspection and even the ethical, moral judgements I'm making are still rooted in Ti. I do seem to place alot of emphasis however on my Fi role function so others easily can mistake me for EII, even I fool myself here.

Ultimately it's Fe I'm seeking in my duals more than Te.

Also the vast majority are typing me as LII rather than EII. I know that peoples' opinions can be wrong and sometimes there is the groupthink bias, but generally the majority as a whole is usually right.

[wacey]

Yay you did it!

[Simo]

On a fundamental level, I am systematizing what's around me, making logical sense out things and creating principles. I strive for consistency, to have things follow these principles. I've done more introspection and even the ethical, moral judgments I'm making are still rooted in Ti. I do seem to place a lot of emphasis however on my Fi role function so others easily can mistake me for EII, even I fool myself here.

Ultimately it's Fe I'm seeking in my duals more than Te.

I will investigate and tell you the results within the next 12 months

Also the vast majority are typing me as LII rather than EII. I know that peoples' opinions can be wrong and sometimes there is the groupthink bias, but generally the majority as a whole is usually right.

I don't think the majority is usually right because the ones who are most likely right are the expert and the majority aren't experts so it is important to check the quality of the opinion not only quantity, true that in many cases the majority will follow the experts opinion but sometimes the truth isn't popular or doesn't match the norms so the majority will not buy in to the experts opinion

so that's why my opinion as just a fan doesn't weight as much as others who studied socionics more deeply than me like myst & thehotelambush

that being said experts are humans and so they have their own biases & they do make mistakes as well

[The Exception]

Yay you did it!

Would you like me to do it again?

You write like an LII, but your video was very EII. Can you send the link to videos again?

It's long. So there's 4 parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pzd93wd3eU Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVD2zgriUps&t=202s Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK9koZ7yAUY&t=5s Part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRO1vI6pHoo&t=255s Part 4

I will investigate and tell you the results within the next 12 months

That's too long to wait.

I don't think the majority is usually right because the ones who are most likely right are the expert and the majority aren't experts so it is important to check the quality of the opinion not only quantity, true that in many cases the majority will follow the experts opinion but sometimes the truth isn't popular or doesn't match the norms so the majority will not buy in to the experts opinion

so that's why my opinion as just a fan doesn't weight as much as others who studied socionics more deeply than me like myst & thehotelambush

that being said experts are humans and so they have their own biases & they do make mistakes as well

Myst types me as LII, thehotelambush used to type me as LII, I don't know if he still does.

[Simo]

That's too long to wait.

it has to be long so if I didn't double check, you'll most likely forget to remind me

Myst types me as LII, thehotelambush used to type me as LII, I don't know if he still does.

If you were learning a new language and two native speakers said you speak the language so well that you sound like a native speaker, would you still think you're average level on that language? (amusing they weren't being sarcastic)

same here if two Ti dom (have a valued 4D Ti) said your use of Ti is on equal level to their use of it, would you still say your Ti is actually unvalued & 2D only?