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    one of the least popular and the least understood types

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    There seriously was no e2 input before? </3

    I'll become a resident of this thread, a lot of my general favourites in life are 2w3.



    Translation:

    Never trust the dogs that are with you only when you offer them something to eat. Trust the lions that are by your side even when they're hungry.
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    Byron Katie, a 2 herself.











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    Remembered another quote of a 2, it went like this:

    "Erase all the worries hidden behind your smile, until something good happens."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milo View Post
    The trope is interesting because it links being good with being saved by a man. Misogynist Disney logic.

    Enneagram 2 the type to save someone ELSE while getting destroyed by that

    I rephrase the quote to restore the value of these characters:

    "The evil queens are the princesses that saved everyone but themselves."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The trope is interesting because it links being good with being saved by a man. Misogynist Disney logic.

    Enneagram 2 the type to save someone ELSE while getting destroyed by that

    I rephrase the quote to restore the value of these characters:

    "The evil queens are the princesses that saved everyone but themselves."
    I read this quote in a gender neutral ego dystonic voice as "never saved by themselves". It doesn't have to imply a male figure imo; the savior could be anyone or anything: their closest friends, their family, their social milieu, and finally themselves, which for 2s is in the key of standing up for their own needs instead of continuing to be in the service of others.

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    Ayy @Milo, fair enough :3

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    Some more e2-themed quotes.











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    Let go of a precise outcome and love all. Act when you need to for a goal, but then let go and enjoy all the blessings in your day!

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    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     






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    SX 2

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    "Love yourself enough
    so you don't have to depend on someone else
    to make you feel loved."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milo View Post
    one of the least popular and the least understood types
    That's because Type 2s are basically just described as literal narcissists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbrannte View Post
    That's because Type 2s are basically just described as literal narcissists
    That depends on their place on the spectrum of health levels and - where exactly have they been universally described like this?

    I don't think that they are so unpopular as well. Just in theory, but not in real life Quite the contrary is the case, given that their greatest talent and drive is making others love them. Their entire life revolves around interpersonal compassion. Quick test: Which enneagram type would come to mind when asking: "Who would win a popularity contest at school?" E2>E7>E3>E6>E9>E8>E1>E4>E5.

    Least understood yes, since this type has been pigeonholed quickly as the mom or narcissist as you pinpointed it. The true narcissist is E3 though. As an awesome 3 myself I can write you an entire essay about that (case in point), and I gladly shoulder this cross - just for the sake of having an image to portray That differs quite from a 2 who would outsource their "image" a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This is interesting because it's the opposite of 6...
    Quadra complexes by Stratiyevskaya: Alpha - Closed Mouth | Beta - Subservience | Gamma - Tied Hands | Delta - Clipped Wings

    Gulenko's (very good) type descriptions
    Stratiyevskaya's type descriptions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    This is interesting because it's the opposite of 6...
    The heart triad is like that in general, the person-to-person/solitary thing can be found in 3 and 4 as well. Enneagram 2 to 4 is one's identity, 5-7 is oneself within the group, 8-1 is one's independent position in society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    This is interesting because it's the opposite of 6...
    The opposite of 6 is 6. 6 are polar opposites.
    "When it gets down to it, when you’re drowning, you don’t say, ‘I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,’ you just scream."

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    "When it gets down to it, when you’re drowning, you don’t say, ‘I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,’ you just scream."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The heart triad is like that in general, the person-to-person/solitary thing can be found in 3 and 4 as well. Enneagram 2 to 4 is one's identity, 5-7 is oneself within the group, 8-1 is one's independent position in society.
    Well it's interesting, because 2s and 6s are typically the "helper" types, but they go about it differently.

    I'd suppose the Heart triad ultimately think that they can rely on "love" of others. 2 is the most obvious, 3s think that they can rely on the respect and admiration from others, and 4s play the victim because they think that they will be "rescued" (loved).

    The Head triad have to rely on something more concrete for protection. 5s think that knowledge will offer them protection. 6s can't rely on themselves, so they must rely on something strong, like authorities or organizations. I'd suppose 7s have no security issues, but they didn't feel that they got or could get what they wanted?

    As a 4, I often wondered why 4s had to be "unique". I'm thinking that it has to do with their fear of being overlooked. If only they were unique enough, then they would not be looked over of their love. If they were not special or unique, then they might not receive the love that they need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    The opposite of 6 is 6. 6 are polar opposites.
    Well ultimately, I think 6s will have to rely on something, whether it be someone, an authority, ideologies or organizations.

    Basically someone like Trump is a magnet for 6s.
    Quadra complexes by Stratiyevskaya: Alpha - Closed Mouth | Beta - Subservience | Gamma - Tied Hands | Delta - Clipped Wings

    Gulenko's (very good) type descriptions
    Stratiyevskaya's type descriptions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Well ultimately, I think 6s will have to rely on something, whether it be someone, an authority, ideologies or organizations.

    Basically someone like Trump is a magnet for 6s.
    Some 6s despise him because he's morally bad. 6s have a morally extreme good side and the opposite, a morally evil side.

    In Jungian psychology, "shadow" or "shadow aspect" may refer to (1) an unconscious aspect of the personality which the conscious ego does not identify in itself. Because one tends to reject or remain ignorant of the least desirable aspects of one's personality, the shadow is largely negative, or (2) the entirety of the unconscious, i.e., everything of which a person is not fully conscious. There are, however, positive aspects which may also remain hidden in one's shadow (especially in people with low self-esteem, anxieties, and false beliefs).[1] Contrary to a Freudian definition of shadow, therefore, the Jungian shadow can include everything outside the light of consciousness, and may be positive or negative. "Everyone carries a shadow," Jung wrote, "and the less it is embodied in the individual's conscious life, the blacker and denser it is."[2] It may be (in part) one's link to more primitive animal instincts,[3] which are superseded during early childhood by the conscious mind.Carl Jung stated the shadow to be the unknown dark side of the personality.[4][5] According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to psychological projection, in which a perceived personal inferiority is recognised as a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections remain hidden, "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object--if it has one--or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power."[6] These projections insulate and harm individuals by acting as a constantly thickening veil of illusion between the ego and the real world.
    From one perspective, 'the shadow...is roughly equivalent to the whole of the Freudian unconscious';[7] and Jung himself asserted that 'the result of the Freudian method of elucidation is a minute elaboration of man's shadow-side unexampled in any previous age'.[8]

    Jung also believed that "in spite of its function as a reservoir for human darkness—or perhaps because of this—the shadow is the seat of creativity";[9] so that for some, it may be, 'the dark side of his being, his sinister shadow...represents the true spirit of life as against the arid scholar.'[10]
    I read this awesome article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak..._10319848.html
    "When it gets down to it, when you’re drowning, you don’t say, ‘I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,’ you just scream."

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    Julia Sweeney - 2 sp/so (ESFp) - great example of Naranjo's profiling for sp 2.

    The Preservation 2 again is very different. It's more child-like. It's seduction again but it's more the seduction of a child in the presence of grown-ups, the seduction of the father, the seduction of the mother. A child is more cute, so this is a kind of cute 2. They don't look so adult ... Social 2 seems over-adult, over-ripe ... and the Sexual 2 feel like, Carmen - you know that character? [www.youtube.com/watch?v=djsuP0uta7s] Like a force of nature, wildness. But preservation 2 is like cute. We don't have time for more literal explanations ... of course, it is possible to illustrate everything through the movies ... but let me stick to the central issue here. This character was called by the psychoanalysts "infantile". Ichazo used the word expression "me - the most important". I misunderstood that for a long time. I thought it was a Napoleonic gesture: "I am the most important!" (thumps chest) - the desire for importance of an ambitious person. In the end, I came to understand that it's a child-like importance. A child wants to be loved, not for this and not for that - just because. Loved only for being, or for being who he or she is. What is prominent here is a love need. There's a naked love need. Not going through the sexualization of seduction or going through self-importance and building up yourself. There is some use in remaining little. Why would a person have a need to remain childish, to act childish? Of course there are advantages. Children are more liked than grown-ups. As we grow up, we lose points. They deserve the nicest, they haven't been contaminated so much yet. So we can pretend we are still that unadulterated child, and we get ... there can be some dramatization of that and get something from it."

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