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    Default Hillary Clinton hand signals.

    I was skeptical before watching this, then I watched it and I'm going to flat out say there's no way she wasn't using hand signals. She rigged the debate.

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    The key to knowing that she cheated is the Nato part... when she signaled he was talking about Nato... she sat there waiting for him to finish talking and for Lester Holt to throw it back to her... but Trump would never quit going all over the place. Ten minutes later... she goes back to the point where she signaled.... that can't be random.... she's signalling.
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    Certainly plausible.

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    I've thrown around the possibility that elections could be rigged. But how many people would need to be in on this who for some reason haven't squealed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    I've thrown around the possibility that elections could be rigged. But how many people would need to be in on this who for some reason haven't squealed?
    Not many tbh, just the people at the top directing employees actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitta View Post
    Not many tbh, just the people at the top directing employees actions.
    And the employees. Unless they use some cia mind control hypnosis techniques to get them to respond in certain ways to suggestions like hand signals ooo this is gettin good..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    And the employees. Unless they use some cia mind control hypnosis techniques to get them to respond in certain ways to suggestions like hand signals ooo this is gettin good..
    No, that's not what I meant. From a media standpoint, if the people over the news company wants a particular theme to be used... the reporters will follow the guidelines. High up reporters and media correspondents are probably in bed with particular candidates. As far as directly rigging an election, I think it'd be quite easy. At the voting level you'd only need select participants. I mean it's pretty obvious some shady shit happened to Bernie Sanders, it's fairly obvious from the emails that the entire DNC was plotting against him.
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    i don't know about hand signals, but during the democratic debate i always noticed that Hillary was devoted a disproportionate amount of screen time, she was also placed directly in the middle of the stage. whenever one of the other candidates was talking, without fail they'd show Hillary's reaction. same deal with the Republicans, but with Trump. it's pretty obvious who the final nominees were going to be even from the beginning, now that i think about it.

    also, i definitely think rigging is a possibility. if not votes, then visibility.
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    It's been and will always be a game show, I don't want to sound cynical but it's all about entertainment. Trump has done a great job with the flashy and funny superhero role and Hillary's been the boring, but smart sidekick

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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    That says very little at all. Responses for both parties went well over 2 minutes. The debate format is typically a rough outline, and the moderator usually uses his discretion on when or when not to interrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitta View Post
    That says very little at all. Responses for both parties went well over 2 minutes. The debate format is typically a rough outline, and the moderator usually uses his discretion on when or when not to interrupt.
    It's pretty fucking funny that youtube keeps blocking the videos for copyright infractions even though they aren't breaking any copyrights.
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    did you think that trump wasn't allowed to get his words in, or that he never interrupted? i didn't. like what is it that her hand gestures would accomplish that she couldn't do anyway?

    http://www.snopes.com/debate-secret-hand-signals/

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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    did you think that trump wasn't allowed to get his words in, or that he never interrupted? i didn't. like what is it that her hand gestures would accomplish that she couldn't do anyway?
    If he was taking hand signals, who knows what else they could have had in the works. She might have known the questions in advance and was trying to hurry trump along the moment he mentioned his key phrase. I don't know exactly how they had it set up, but something was definitely not right in that sequence of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitta View Post
    If he was taking hand signals, who knows what else they could have had in the works. She might have known the questions in advance and was trying to hurry trump along the moment he mentioned his key phrase. I don't know exactly how they had it set up, but something was definitely not right in that sequence of events.
    you should probably add this to your theory. trump's microphone made him talk too loud.

    also, the timing of the debates is terrible for trump, since his supporters will be more interested in football than in watching him: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/what-...ommentary.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitta View Post
    If he was taking hand signals, who knows what else they could have had in the works. She might have known the questions in advance and was trying to hurry trump along the moment he mentioned his key phrase. I don't know exactly how they had it set up, but something was definitely not right in that sequence of events.
    ofc they knew the questions in advance..that is what a debate format is all about. thats why you prepare your arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    you should probably add this to your theory. trump's microphone made him talk too loud.

    also, the timing of the debates is terrible for trump, since his supporters will be more interested in football than in watching him: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/what-...ommentary.html
    Except I don't think those are really that plausible as there is no evidence to support it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitta View Post
    Except I don't think those are really that plausible as there is no evidence to support it.
    i'll just wait to see if trump agrees; if clinton scratching her nose is worth adding to his other complaints. it is really difficult to treat a narcissist fairly.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b024a52d2a6852

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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    i'll just wait to see if trump agrees; if clinton scratching her nose is worth adding to his other complaints. it is really difficult to treat a narcissist fairly.
    He probably will, he rattles his mouth quite a bit. I could post an article about how Hillary was Xenu and he'd probably write about it.
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    Thanks for showing us this Hitta. Of course the powers that be are busily blocking these videos, trying to hide as many as possible, but the cat is out of the bag. Oh, they put Snopes on detail. When inumbra mentions Snopes, I clicked, but there was no questions in my mind they would be calling it a "false conspiracy!" against Hillary. (Just had to check, though).

    I found this below. Good work!



    (I don't know if that is the one that you posted, Hitta).


    Hillary is a liar and a deceiver, just like Bill. But pride goeth before the fall. She feels so powerful that here she is playing her deception games right in front of the world on camera. That woman will do anything to win. Which is why the body count.

    [I am not saying Trump is a prize or any moral star.]

    My husband and I watched the last bit of the debate even though we have dodged the political fray all year. What makes me sick is immediately after when they come in heavy-handed telling us what we are supposed to think and conclude about what we just saw. I hate that. I can think for myself and DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!

    I did not catch the hand signals while watching that bit of debate. But I did find something ODD about the pacing of the Q & A - it seemed like people were being allowed to interrupt or talk or there were subject changes at odd times. Now I see this here and it perfectly explains the anomaly I felt. Thanks.

    More videos on this, not blocked, most muted:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79_vCdpgFE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1aWEWvUCfU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEvQZuo1VMo

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    i thought both candidates spoke and i heard what they have to say (they both have websites and books and have appeared on TV before). i watched Fox News after to see what they were saying. CNN generally annoys me even more than Fox (even though i'm liberal). of course the media is biased and spins things - you don't have to let them mind control you.

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    Watching the debate as a European:


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    Hmm well the video is blocked in my country and I'm too lazy to view it on Tor, but hand signals are something that many politicians have done before and admit to. It's certainly plausible for a politician to set up hand signals with a television crew to signal when to change topics or end a topic to make them look good. A lot of networks are biased towards one candidate over another, so to me this is kind of a given. Not really shocked or surprised by it to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    Thanks for showing us this Hitta. Of course the powers that be are busily blocking these videos, trying to hide as many as possible, but the cat is out of the bag. Oh, they put Snopes on detail. When inumbra mentions Snopes, I clicked, but there was no questions in my mind they would be calling it a "false conspiracy!" against Hillary. (Just had to check, though).

    I found this below. Good work!



    (I don't know if that is the one that you posted, Hitta).


    Hillary is a liar and a deceiver, just like Bill. But pride goeth before the fall. She feels so powerful that here she is playing her deception games right in front of the world on camera. That woman will do anything to win. Which is why the body count.

    [I am not saying Trump is a prize or any moral star.]

    My husband and I watched the last bit of the debate even though we have dodged the political fray all year. What makes me sick is immediately after when they come in heavy-handed telling us what we are supposed to think and conclude about what we just saw. I hate that. I can think for myself and DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!

    I did not catch the hand signals while watching that bit of debate. But I did find something ODD about the pacing of the Q & A - it seemed like people were being allowed to interrupt or talk or there were subject changes at odd times. Now I see this here and it perfectly explains the anomaly I felt. Thanks.

    More videos on this, not blocked, most muted:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79_vCdpgFE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1aWEWvUCfU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEvQZuo1VMo

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    P.S. The little "delivery man" thing at the end of the video is interesting. [@Hitta, was that in the one you posted?]
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    Don't care, Hitta. Still voting for her. Anything is better than Trump. I'd rather vote for a jellyfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    i'll just wait to see if trump agrees; if clinton scratching her nose is worth adding to his other complaints. it is really difficult to treat a narcissist fairly.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b024a52d2a6852
    You can tell the difference between a “normal” nose itch, and a nose touch that is from the signs of lying – the simple itch will be satisfied with rubbing or scratching, but won’t be satisfied with just a light touch, and this is what happens when the person is lying.

    Once again, if the speaker is the one who displays the nose touch gesture, it means he could be lying. If it is the listener who does it, then he could simply doubt what he is hearing.

    http://psychologia.co/signs-of-lying-in-body-language/
    Last night I was flipping through channels when I was trying to fall asleep and I saw some news show where the body language expert said she was actually signaling that Trump is a pinocchio (being deceptive) every time she touched her nose while he was speaking. I looked it up and it is a thing. I am sure she has had some prep on body language before the debate and it is possible she was doing it on purpose but it could have been subconscious. I just find it hard to believe she does not know about body language since her husband was said to have touched his nose while lying about Lewinski over 20 times in 4 minutes (I didn't fact check this but I read it. lol) and not touching his nose when he told the truth.

    I am almost positive that she was purposely highlighting that he was being deceptive, to everyone who was watching. Her nose touching actually did signal to me that she did not believe him (when I saw Eliza's video) which is interesting because I had not seen the body language person talking about her doing it to signal Trump lying until after . I think it is a good subliminal message.

    Ne-way I am sure conspiracy theorists won't accept that explanation.

    *if someone has real allergies or something is giving them an itch, nose touching is not necessarily a sign of lying.

    ** body language is pseudo-science but since politicians know they may be evaluated on every gesture they may pay closer attention to their body language.

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    It's more likely that Trump communicated through sniffles than Clinton through handsignals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    It's more likely that Trump communicated through sniffles than Clinton through handsignals.
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    Nevermind, I deleted image, posted here, after someone misunderstood. If one misinterprets there are bound to be others.
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    Hilary is a sneaky bitch, at least Trump is genuine. He is not so intelligent so it's obvious if he lies therefore he is not scary.
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    Trump supported Hillary on Iran during the deal when it was made. He is also on camera saying she was the only capable person to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    I wouldn't care that you are in love with conspiracy theories if you weren't a teacher.
    Not really. I honestly believe that while people keep secrets, for their own good, or for self-preservation or thier own power, they don't keep secrets when they get together, like in organizations. Organizations have no interests in self-preservation - only the good of other people! Also people are corrupt individually, but not organizations. They would have to conspire to do that, and conspiring is ridiculous. Power corrupts people, but not when the people get in groups. Something about the group brings out the best in everyone, and everyone becomes their ideal person becaseu of the group. The power of groups. Groups don't conspire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    Not really. I honestly believe that while people keep secrets, for their own good, or for self-preservation or thier own power, they don't keep secrets when they get together, like in organizations. Organizations have no interests in self-preservation - only the good of other people! Also people are corrupt individually, but not organizations. They would have to conspire to do that, and conspiring is ridiculous. Power corrupts people, but not when the people get in groups. Something about the group brings out the best in everyone, and everyone becomes their ideal person becaseu of the group. The power of groups. Groups don't conspire.
    Sarcasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    Sarcasm?
    I think the kool-aid is getting to me.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    𝕱𝖔𝖓𝖙 𝕷𝖎𝖇𝖊𝖗𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖆𝖓 Verbrannte's Avatar
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    @Maritsa If she were considered a viable presidential candidate, she'd probably beat her, so I don't think anyone would mind. She doesn't look that similar to me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbrannte View Post
    @Maritsa If she were considered a viable presidential candidate, she'd probably beat her, so I don't think anyone would mind. She doesn't look that similar to me though.
    if you look at young hillary you'll see some similarity
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    @Maritsa That isn't enough to fool anyone that your cousin is actually Hilary though, unless she's also form the past and an alternate timeline.
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    Wait, so you mean a Clinton cheated?

    Never saw that coming

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    Why there is no thread about Trump's signals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Why there is no thread about Trump's signals?
    http://www.slate.com/topics/t/trump_...ypsewatch.html



    "Something inexpressively lovely and wonderful advances through the crystal, nearer, nearer. And, oh, inexpressively terrifying. For if it were to touch you, if it were to seize you and engulf you, you'd die; all the regular, habitual daily part of you would die … one would have to begin living arduously in the quiet, arduously in some strange, unheard of manner."


     






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