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    What type is he, I have no clue, but i'm very interested to know.

    What are your thoughts or guesses?

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    usually say lie, but in general some nt type
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    LIE
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    LSI.

    Tesla is a very beta company.

    Can see where the LIE typings come from.

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    I used to think that he's ILE, but I also think he's LIE now. He's very good at organizing competent teams and then unleashing them to work on his goals. Despite what everyone thinks, he's not really an inventor himself, he's just good at compiling teams of the right people who can carry out his visions and keeping them on task.

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    Elon Musk is definitely LIE from what I've just read and he VIs as ENTj as well.

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    after seeing this interview I'd go with LSI-Se sp/sx 3w2 - what stood out was him pointing out historical mistakes that did not preserve some accumulated technical knowledge, and how people need to get together and work to preserve and improve technology against the forces of entropy - an attitude that gets mentioned or alluded to in several places in both EIE and LSI articles





    he also vi's ST over NT with that heavy-set serious look, like the guy needs somebody who could lighten things up for him


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    He strikes me as LIE based on what I've read about him.
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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    I tend to lean towards LIE now.

    LSI-Se isn't a bad idea, but he misses agression. No Se there.

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    For some year now I have had him as being ILI. Why ILI and not LIE? Mostly because of demonstrative Ti. One thing I notice from him is when he get a question or is starting to explain something he get silent for a while and then start from an end which he picks. It is like he is telling a story of logic which lead him to the explanation to why. The character of his Se does not strike me very LIE. And there was one interview he had with an EIE that gave me the supervisor ITR vibes. Whatever type he is a very futuristic guy.


    In the Socion the ILI is told of as being the one who collect knowledge of the past to apply it in the now and to the future. Kind of the guy who find pieces and build something with the already known for a long time and make it more efficient and fully optimized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    I tend to lean towards LIE now.

    LSI-Se isn't a bad idea, but he misses agression. No Se there.
    He has an hidden agenda and clearly values , it's confused for his creative function and hence the mistyping for LSI because he's clearly a logical type. I initially thought he was ILE, but the way he runs the company does show valuing and he operates it in a way that a LIE would, not an ILE. An LSI can be a risk taker like him, but they would most likely take risks with more traditional means, not extraordinary means like Elon Musk is doing, which leans him towards LIE IMO.
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    I've been following him on facebook for a couple years now. His ex wife is an actor on WestWorld. He posted a video telling everyone to check her out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    I've been following him on facebook for a couple years now. His ex wife is an actor on WestWorld. He posted a video telling everyone to check her out.
    Maybe they're confirmed ex's but still friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Maybe they're confirmed ex's but still friends.
    Duh.

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    Seems like an obvious Ni type, since he makes a lot of predictions about the future, and has acted on his predictions, but Ne types can also make predictions about the future.

    He is generally focused on the bright, positive side of the future, so that might suggest that he is a Positivist.
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    LIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Te enterprise/usefulness and improvement + juggling facts, Ni outcome focus right there, Ne possibilities and estimations.
    If it wasn't for Si PoLR, he could easily market a perfume with that name
    "The ENFp outlaw lives in the world of "chaos" meaning that he doesn't get surprised by the mayhem he causes or has to deal with in order to accomplish the goal of staying alive. Unlike the strong Si types who notice every tiny detail of pre-conceived madness, he will quite happily do whatever his experimental intuition dictates to survive even if he has to use himself as a "guinea pig" in the process. [...] Strong Ne types like the ENFp outlaw tend to make serendipitous discoveries like finding a creative way of defying death where others would have died if they stuck to "the rules". The long range vision of Ne with a drug-induced short-range Si tactical foreplay reveals the true nature of one's methodical madness i.e. using chaos to stabilize the chaos." x



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    This is a fun thread...I actually thought he would be an ILE in theory from what I knew about him and Tesla.
    Then I saw a youtube interview...he is LIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    What type is he, I have no clue, but i'm very interested to know.

    What are your thoughts or guesses?
    Totally LIE

    What the hell looks like LSI in him, I don't know lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    after seeing this interview I'd go with LSI-Se sp/sx 3w2 - what stood out was him pointing out historical mistakes that did not preserve some accumulated technical knowledge, and how people need to get together and work to preserve and improve technology against the forces of entropy - an attitude that gets mentioned or alluded to in several places in both EIE and LSI article.
    Improving technology against the forces of entropy & historical mistakes about accumulated technical knowledge, that's completely gamma NT, that got absolutely nothing to do with the Ti valuing of Beta quadra.

    he also vi's ST over NT with that heavy-set serious look, like the guy needs somebody who could lighten things up for him
    No, that's just T lead.

    Btw to me personally that photo looks like he's very contemplative Ni-ish.

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    I type him as LIE, 6w5 So/Sp.
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    Nice. Gamma for the win then, yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    For some year now I have had him as being ILI. Why ILI and not LIE? Mostly because of demonstrative Ti. One thing I notice from him is when he get a question or is starting to explain something he get silent for a while and then start from an end which he picks. It is like he is telling a story of logic which lead him to the explanation to why. The character of his Se does not strike me very LIE. And there was one interview he had with an EIE that gave me the supervisor ITR vibes. Whatever type he is a very futuristic guy.


    In the Socion the ILI is told of as being the one who collect knowledge of the past to apply it in the now and to the future. Kind of the guy who find pieces and build something with the already known for a long time and make it more efficient and fully optimized.
    I see lots of LIE typings here, and LIE certainly seems possible. I think ILI is also possible though. I haven't really seen enough (honestly I don't really give a shit about famous people's types) to decide which I think is more likely.
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    It is super short-sighted of the space heros to say "let government funded space exploration happen exclusively".

    In todays era, trips like those planned for Mars would certainly never happen on taxes payers dime alone. It is going to require private, commercial industry to pay for the expenses.

    This always happens with older delta STs (such as the videos "space heros", who I also personally admire).----> they get stuck in their Te ways of: "This is the way its always been done and this is the way we are going to keep doing it." Little innovation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post


    I don't know much about him or have an opinion on his type, but from this interview his demeanor, mannerisms and way of speaking remind me a lot of what @mu4 is like in person. Mu has a lot more passion in his voice though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I don't know much about him or have an opinion on his type, but from this interview his demeanor, mannerisms and way of speaking remind me a lot of what @mu4 is like in person. Mu has a lot more passion in his voice, though.


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    If he is not pioneer LIE, I don't know who is. (I' know very similar person. In away we essentially just tried to understand each other's humor a lot of similarities in terms of potential but went into different directions.)
    Meged & Ovcharov: Give the impression that they’re flying in the clouds, may appear childish/naïve. A socially adept conversationalist; read much and are inquisitive, willingly discuss new information with associates and are interested in their opinion. Their seemingly shy demeanour combines with coolness and obstinacy when they begin to defend their point of view. They like to discuss but rarely ever end these disputes in conflict. Often smile at associates without need of an occasion. Use an identical smile when they speak about both, ridiculous and serious, subject matter. Attempt being kind to all and do not take personal offence to remarks. In employment they are patient and, despite forgetfulness, tend to finish work which interests them. Gestures and speech seem either slowed down or accelerated. Pose with ease, appear absent-minded, gait and movements seem uncertain/weak-willed.

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    Hi! I think Elon Musk type is : ESFJ-L

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    For some year now I have had him as being ILI. Why ILI and not LIE? Mostly because of demonstrative Ti. One thing I notice from him is when he get a question or is starting to explain something he get silent for a while and then start from an end which he picks. It is like he is telling a story of logic which lead him to the explanation to why. The character of his Se does not strike me very LIE. And there was one interview he had with an EIE that gave me the supervisor ITR vibes. Whatever type he is a very futuristic guy.


    In the Socion the ILI is told of as being the one who collect knowledge of the past to apply it in the now and to the future. Kind of the guy who find pieces and build something with the already known for a long time and make it more efficient and fully optimized.
    Good points. Just searched for this thread because I realize I really like this guy. He does do a lot of explaining with Ti but couldn't demo Ne do the same?

    . Like Zuckerberg is all about racing ahead full speed with AI and Musk is talking more about the future and the problems it could create. Connecting it to many things. He is contemplative. Zuckerberg is simple compared to him. Musk has such a wider angle. Sees so much bigger. Like he said, I am not prescribing things, I am predicting them. Which almost sounds Fe. There are no personal ethics at all. Zuckerberg is more prescriptive. More activist. Musk is talking logically about things and zuckerberg has a simple appeal to emotion.

    I agree with just about everything he says:




    I also heard that Se HA upholds obligations. It must. Like people giving people discounts on Tesla cars angered him. Nobody gets a discount. Not him. His family. Or friends. Nobody. And I don't think it is because of greed but fairness. He doesn't seem like Ne ignoring and has servicable Fe. Though Ti ignoring also makes little sense for him. who knows lol
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    LIE 100%.
    “Until he extends the circle of his compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace.”



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    Changed to LIE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economist View Post
    He fits your Imago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    He fits your Imago?
    You know it He's one of the coolest people on Earth right now though he was pretty mean to his first wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    He fits your Imago?
    You weren't asking me but this is interesting - I linked my Imago with LIE but Elon Musk doesn't fit it. Hmm, maybe due to the sx-last (IIRC I read he's sx-last).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    You weren't asking me but this is interesting - I linked my Imago with LIE but Elon Musk doesn't fit it. Hmm, maybe due to the sx-last (IIRC I read he's sx-last).
    He's in the robot sx-last category, what crazy hot girls like Heard find attractive in him is beyond me. He doesnt even seem human - like how are you supposed to have sex with him lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    He's in the robot sx-last category, what crazy hot girls like Heard find attractive in him is beyond me. He doesnt even seem human - like how are you supposed to have sex with him lol.
    Lol I find him attractive enough for er, such basics but no real strong deep attraction like with that Imago stuff.

    Btw, maybe it's him being Te subtype also (instead of strong enough Ni of Ni subtype) and not just being sx-last, tho' probably that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I type him as LIE So/Sp.
    Yes SO/SP should be it! Very sympathetic contraflow man, I like that guy's vision for society.
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    I can see so/sp, but I thought sp/so since the keywords for sp/so are like, "to conserve" while the keywords for "so/sp" are like, "to use, to exploit." I feel like everything Musk does is for the highest form of preservation possible (from the perspective of a human)--the preservation of the existence of humans. Could also explain why some might see him as introverted too.

    Either way, I'll take all the LIE-Te sx-lasts @Myst doesn't want

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