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    ESEs,

    Do you struggle with being bored easily or distracted easily?
    I tend to be easily distracted. I can be very disorganized- many of the articles on the ESE paint them as highly organized and efficient at running a household. Maybe that depends on the subtype.
    While I can be organized, it is not a natural or preferred state.

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    Then I don't think you're an ESE. Are you sure you're not IEI - Fe instead?

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    I prefer Fe, Si, and Ti so I think I'm ESE . Functions I struggle with are Ni and Se.

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    Are you sure you prefer Si and not Ni? Your avatar doesn't have much in terms of sensory stimulation, but does have concept to it. "Struggle with" also doesn't describe the Superid functions at all from my experience. I have a very hard time describing how I do perceive them though, especially in a nice way, but even in a not so nice way it's much harder to describe than I understand it.
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    I picked that avatar because of a symbolic meaning. The quote isn't so relevant.

    I've met IEIs and they seem so much more complex than I am. I wonder if being E4 has something to do with because distracted and living in a fantasy world.

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    I'm externally very polite, pulled together, organized looking and internally very moody and anxious. My thought skip all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrowsofyoungwerther View Post
    I'm externally very polite, pulled together, organized looking and internally very moody and anxious. My thought skip all over.
    you very well could be SEE without those god of awful quadra values, I self-type as ILI with Alpha values

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    @sorrowsofyoungwerther

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...8-Temperaments

    Between EJ and EP were do you lie? Are you hyperactive bombarding your life with numerous things you want to do, doing them well until something more exciting comes along? (EJ)

    Or instead, do you take things as they come going, hectic as ever doing as much as you can?

    EJ:

    Typical characteristics:
    proactive
    restless
    difficult to relax unless tired
    walk tends to be quick-paced and "purposeful", as well as stiff
    "calmly energetic" with few intense variations in the level of energy during the day
    inclined to fidget when forced to remain inactive for long periods

    EP:
    Typical characteristics:
    flexible
    mobile
    impulsive, shifting from apparent inactivity to bursts of energy, often several times a day, showing impatience during them
    walk is energetic but "cat-like"
    often seems optimistic and open-minded
    inclined to fidget when forced to remain inactive for long periods
    entertains people easily and naturally

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    My sister just solicits emotional responses, touches, and she loves food and makeup so she's following the things that she sees as pleasant and enjoyable
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 09-28-2016 at 02:21 AM.

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    It sounds like an Ne thing? Like I would blame my constant attention shifting on my Ne function wanting to tie new ideas together.

    Perhaps having it as your Hidden Agenda - and not getting it from people around you - means that you find yourself trying to look for novelty yourself. And because you can't find it you over do it. On this forum people have talked about overusing their HA, so maybe you need to find some externally sourced Ne. Source here http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...genda-Function and here but it's just a source for those curious. It's not very informative.

    You could also be young/have under-developed Ni? Which would mean that your enthusiasm and interest in things is strong, but you can't organise it in an effective way because you don't have a sense of things that need to get done in a certain order. I believe that LSEs and ESEs are overly organised and focused to make up for the fact they have a looser understanding of how things are changing (Ni). However, that may require a certain amount of awareness that your Ni is POLR first.

    It also does give off Alpha vibes, but I had always believed it would be the intuitive Alphas who would bring in the new ideas.

    You could be "Gamma with Alpha values" as @Soupman suggests but I've never heard of that being a thing so I'm dubious.

    As an aside, I'm not sure about that temperaments link. Under that I believe I am probably more EP than IJ, but I associate more with the LII personality type than ILE.
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    ClownsandEntropy- I think you are right. I have under-developed Ni, and HA Ne. I have a lot of ideas...they might not all be great though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupman View Post
    @sorrowsofyoungwerther

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...8-Temperaments

    Between EJ and EP were do you lie? Are you hyperactive bombarding your life with numerous things you want to do, doing them well until something more exciting comes along? (EJ)

    Or instead, do you take things as they come going, hectic as ever doing as much as you can?

    EJ:

    Typical characteristics:
    proactive
    restless
    difficult to relax unless tired
    walk tends to be quick-paced and "purposeful", as well as stiff
    "calmly energetic" with few intense variations in the level of energy during the day
    inclined to fidget when forced to remain inactive for long periods

    EP:
    Typical characteristics:
    flexible
    mobile
    impulsive, shifting from apparent inactivity to bursts of energy, often several times a day, showing impatience during them
    walk is energetic but "cat-like"
    often seems optimistic and open-minded
    inclined to fidget when forced to remain inactive for long periods
    entertains people easily and naturally

    Thank you Soupman! I am EJ. People comment on my "walk with purpose" quite often.

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    werther, could you please fill out a form? Also doing the sociotype.com test or Olga Whatshername's Image Test would be useful after you do the form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schildmaid View Post
    werther, could you please fill out a form? Also doing the sociotype.com test or Olga Whatshername's Image Test would be useful after you do the form.
    Could you direct me to the form? Thank you!

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    I was typed as an E4w3 by an enneagram coach. I agree with those results.
    In regards to Socionics, I took the test on Sociotype but I don't quite agree with it the test states: Your Sociotype: SEE-2Fi (ESFp) Sensing Ethical Extrovert - The Diplomat.

    ....it seems off to me as I know Se Doms and they have a different physical energy than I do, its very dominant and hard to miss. I also love Ti, Si (being cozy, excellent sensory memory, a constant awareness of my inner state, constant awareness of my mood, feelings, temperature, clothing sensations etc etc). I am very caring but also self-absorbed. My moods are hard to conceal, although I do try.
    I really want to be considered "smart" and try to prove I am. Not being considered intelligent is hard for me. I read a lot. I am always taking additional course work etc etc. I am drawn to clever people who can explain logical things to me. I catch myself consulting with INTj and ISTj types frequently as they make a lot of sense to me.
    Here are my results:

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    P types easily switch attention. also there are disorders with such effect like ADHD

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    adhd/distractability is rampant especially among the younger generation. I've worked with almost someone of every type with adhd to varying extents.

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    Ime ESE have good concentration but it is difficult for them to concentrate on anything outside of their personal interest; they do try though if sometimes only to be polite (varies on individuals and subtype)

    In fact I'd go so far as to say ESE have some of the better concentration skills out of the whole socion
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