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    Default Sei, what do you like about ILE ?


    Specifically SEI males......

    I wish @aisa still came around :/
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    SEI like that ILE can find innovative ways to make money and ILEE are sorta romantics who satellite SEI and give them attention

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    I love ILE bravery, willingness to take risks, to take the unpopular opinion or stance and stick by it. They like to have fun and enjoy life. Some of them are hilarious. They help me forget the stresses of life and just enjoy things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    SEI like that ILE can find innovative ways to make money and ILEE are sorta romantics who satellite SEI and give them attention
    Yes. Dated a SEI once. He looked calm, friendly and low maintenance while in reality he needed much attention:
    24/7 texts, jokes, interesting topics to talk about and appreciation. He himself wasn't as energetic and expressive as ESE, however he was waiting for an ILE who could give him that. He wanted to be entertained and I felt like having a burn-out after a few weeks.

    (This sounds negative, but the ISFp's I know are very kind and caring people.)

    I know a SEI-ILE dual couple
    He (ILE) is like a ballon and the SEI holds the string. If she lets him fly away she would lose someone beautiful and interesting, while the ILE would lose himself in all his ideas and projects. She needs someone who can bear her overly caring attitude while ILE needs someone who is able to keep up with his behavior. He is like a big child.
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    and bit of other kinds of unique resourcefulness. They especially like that when it is not done by the book. Doing 'science' unexpectedly.Like innovating a method to do whipped cream under unfavorable weather.
    At least for so called hedonist subtype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sushi View Post

    Specifically SEI males......

    I wish @aisa still came around :/
    hi What do you want me to tell you?

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    Yess! I am a SEI male.

    I dont like anything about ILEs. Not as a type.

    Its all in the chemistry. And the chemistry is often great.

    I have worked with ILEs. Best experience ever.
    I've also dated a few

    So I think the question is wrong. Duality is not about liking something in the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yess! I am a SEI male.

    I dont like anything about ILEs. Not as a type.

    Its all in the chemistry. And the chemistry is often great.

    I have worked with ILEs. Best experience ever.
    I've also dated a few

    So I think the question is wrong. Duality is not about liking something in the other.
    You're killing me...
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    Here - I have something and I feel like it's terribly undervalued in ILE descriptions:

    ILEs can be patient as fuck. Stuck in the flower shop searching for the perfect bouquet for like forever? The ILE won't complain. To me shopping with SEIs takes a lifetime but its apparently no problem for an ILE.
    They don't mind that SEIs can be pretty lazy or slow with their studies and household chores.
    They can also be very resentful and loyal (in a way that might be foreign for ESIs since they're conflictors). They can refuse to talk to people who hurt a SEI's feelings a few years ago.
    They don't correct SEI's Te-Polr misconceptions and choose to stay silent instead of lecturing them like a Te-ego type would do. To me it looks like the ILE enables them to stay in their fantasy world where their own understanding of the world is right and just - but if it works for them so be it.
    Female Fe-creatives seem to have this habit where they get an incredibly high voice when talking angrily, have discussions with no end in sight and literally chase their culprit until they feel like they have been understood and ILEs (/SLEs) deal with it like it's nothing particular. As if they are designed to accept and respect some of the Fe-creative's qualities or need it as an emotional shake up.

    In summary: ILEs are made for SEIs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yess! I am a SEI male.

    I dont like anything about ILEs. Not as a type.

    Its all in the chemistry. And the chemistry is often great.

    I have worked with ILEs. Best experience ever.
    I've also dated a few

    So I think the question is wrong. Duality is not about liking something in the other.
    What I just noticed: Classic case of covering for ILE's PoLR with ^^^ You know your business.

    I would guess the quirks are liked, as far as goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    You're killing me...
    Ditto, confer post above. vs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    Looks like it.
    Besides, you wrote covfefe wrong.


    I saw the edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post


    I saw the edit
    This is madness, Chae. I deleted my post to conceal that terrible joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    This is madness, Chae. I deleted my post to conceal that terrible joke.
    No, no, no. You know what this is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    You know what this is.
    ...ravioli ravioli, give me the formuoli?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    What I just noticed: Classic case of covering for ILE's PoLR with ^^^ You know your business.

    I would guess the quirks are liked, as far as goes.
    Could be. Funny that you mentioned it. I was thinking along similar lines when i looked at what i had written but i saw it as an example of demonstrative Fi. "I dont like anything about ILEs etc". it's quite natural for me to say things like that but I never elaborate on Fi stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    Here - I have something and I feel like it's terribly undervalued in ILE descriptions:

    ILEs can be patient as fuck. Stuck in the flower shop searching for the perfect bouquet for like forever? The ILE won't complain. To me shopping with SEIs takes a lifetime but its apparently no problem for an ILE.
    They don't mind that SEIs can be pretty lazy or slow with their studies and household chores.
    They can also be very resentful and loyal (in a way that might be foreign for ESIs since they're conflictors). They can refuse to talk to people who hurt a SEI's feelings a few years ago.
    True. Those can be good things.

    They don't correct SEI's Te-Polr misconceptions and choose to stay silent instead of lecturing them like a Te-ego type would do.
    They actually occasionally do, that's demonstrative Te. But it's not permanent, just quick-fixes here and there. Just as I correct them with Fi.

    Example (These are dem. )

    ILE: I'm a vegan, but I don't judge anybody who is not.
    SEI: Oh, come'on. It's ok, you can judge people!
    ILE: (laughs)

    ILE: If we don't want to invite them to the party, we can still send them a discreet email telling them that there will be a party. Maybe they won't come.
    SEI: Oh no, either we invite them or we don't. There is no in between.
    ILE: Ok

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    I had an ILE instructor once in logic and it struck me how patient he was. I get the feeling in day to day stuff he may be more pushy, but when it came to explaining logical concepts it felt like he could repeat and retry all day for as long as people weren't getting it, and never let out any signs of irritation or impatience. And he wasn't merely repeating the same stuff over and over, he would put genuine effort in rephrasing and illustrating difficult concepts in different ways based on what was needed, etc

    I really respected him for that because I know I would get pissy before he would and that is kind of a rarity in a classroom environment, so anyone with more patience (and good humor) than me really impressed me

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    Huh. Guess my discreet math teacher was ILE. I'll take that answer. This thread has put me in a good mood. The only reason why he pushed was because we were running out of time in the semester.
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    I noticed ILEs and SEIs like from each other covering topics multiple times from a variety of angles until they both are ready to move on to another topic while most other types get bored and want to just assume the information to be true in most cases by extension instead of by specific validation, especially when it comes to talking about personal preferences or how both view each other.

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    In real situations the Demonstrative Te is quite important. There are no worries about what's gonna happen next, they just take it naturally. There is a constant confidence about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    Female Fe-creatives seem to have this habit where they get an incredibly high voice when talking angrily, have discussions with no end in sight and literally chase their culprit until they feel like they have been understood and ILEs (/SLEs) deal with it like it's nothing particular. As if they are designed to accept and respect some of the Fe-creative's qualities or need it as an emotional shake up.
    exactly the example Gulenko gives about ILE SEI duality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQbEZP2-Dpc , but not for the SLE (functions charges differ)

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    ILE give off an easy confidence that they can think of a clever solution to anything. This is reassuring to SEIs, who spend a good deal of time worrying over what to do if X happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    Here - I have something and I feel like it's terribly undervalued in ILE descriptions:

    ILEs can be patient as fuck. Stuck in the flower shop searching for the perfect bouquet for like forever? The ILE won't complain. To me shopping with SEIs takes a lifetime but its apparently no problem for an ILE.
    They don't mind that SEIs can be pretty lazy or slow with their studies and household chores.
    They can also be very resentful and loyal (in a way that might be foreign for ESIs since they're conflictors). They can refuse to talk to people who hurt a SEI's feelings a few years ago.
    They don't correct SEI's Te-Polr misconceptions and choose to stay silent instead of lecturing them like a Te-ego type would do. To me it looks like the ILE enables them to stay in their fantasy world where their own understanding of the world is right and just - but if it works for them so be it.
    Female Fe-creatives seem to have this habit where they get an incredibly high voice when talking angrily, have discussions with no end in sight and literally chase their culprit until they feel like they have been understood and ILEs (/SLEs) deal with it like it's nothing particular. As if they are designed to accept and respect some of the Fe-creative's qualities or need it as an emotional shake up.

    In summary: ILEs are made for SEIs.
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    True. ILE folks are not very judgemental.

    I don't know if it has something to do with Ti.

    Like you can just be yourself and whatever you act, they don't mind.

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    I have this Ti-user friend, i just tell him how i wanted to have a three-some and if my crush would like me too, is it okay if he'll join us? DDDD

    He's like: he thought of it, and he's like, "okay"

    Lol xD

    Because normal people or some people would probably tell me to shut the fuck off lol xD

    Then, we're talking like: he asked me, what if you already achieved your dream of having a three-some?

    Then i would say, "I'll go four.."
    "we should level up our dreams"


    Lololol xD

    It's like nothing with Ti users. I love Ti users generally

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    Then i have this ILE user i have friends with at discord where we used to play SMITe one time..with voice and then we like message each other and we're already friends..

    It's like, I'm actually kinda busy the past few days lol so i don't usually have time online

    But the ILE doesn't really mind it. (btw i think he likes me lol hahahah) but given that, he's not imposing that i should give my time on him like he's not probably hurt lol

    What i meant is, comparing to my eii friend, whenever I'm not available on a particular day, he'll just stop messaging me as if i did something wrong. He's not even replying to my messages lol xD

    Like i love how ile works because probably low Fi

    Because Fi be like," we should be friends and close and when I feel like you're not spending your time on me, i will feel bad because i feel like I'm nothing to you..."

    Sort of like that, but it's actually bullshit

    Unlike with ILE or ILI they doesn't really mind if you don't put much effort on text and shit. Like if you're not connecting for a long time, and when you see each other, nothing is changed.. You're still friends.

    Unlike other folks, it's like when you don't catchup with each other, it's like your friendship will also cease.

    It's like there should always be a standard which is bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I was thinking along similar lines when i looked at what i had written but i saw it as an example of demonstrative Fi. "I dont like anything about ILEs etc". it's quite natural for me to say things like that but I never elaborate on Fi stuff.
    Isn't Fi about nurturing and improving your relationships, not spinning them into confusion by saying how much you don't like them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    They don't correct SEI's Te-Polr misconceptions and choose to stay silent instead of lecturing them like a Te-ego type would do. To me it looks like the ILE enables them to stay in their fantasy world where their own understanding of the world is right and just - but if it works for them so be it.
    And this is exactly one of the things where semi-dual relationships between SEI and IEE go wrong: IEEs are only able to put up with this trait of SEIs until an important issue is at stake, in which case an IEE mobilizing Te will collide with an SEIs mobilizing Ti...
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