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    Default The truth about EIIs (INFj)

    "INFP is the kind of person that is actually going to subtly try to manipulate you, they're going to guilt trip you.

    "INFPs try to make you feel bad about yourself"


    "If you don't submit to an INFPs way they're going to label you rude, unfair, a bad person and so on, that's what they're going to spread among people as information

    INFPs are butt hurt people that take everything personal

    infps whine cryand manipulate

    INFPs hate being ignored, they're self centred, they have to be in the spotlight, they have to be centre of attention


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    .... >___> did you travel far in space before settling on earth?

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    RED TEXT helps me GET MY POINT ACROSS

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    All of this behaviour is oddly specific.... >~> <~<


    Also: INFPs should not be ignored. I find this to be blatant of self-harming.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimumu View Post
    .... >___> did you travel far in space before settling on earth?
    What makes you think so ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    mbti infp =/= eii

    i can see this with unhealthy infps perhaps, but it's ludicrous to insinuate that this is what all infps are truly like deep down, their "true colors" or whatever. it's not a "lie" or "bullshit" to say that infps are good people. is every single infp a good person? no. but saying that they're all fake and emotionally vampiric is just as erroneous.

    "they do not have a big heart, at all"

    Her response "That is what YOU want to see, because you are not listening. There is nothing unfair in what I said and no, I'm not talking about specific unhealthy INFP, I'm talking about INFPs.
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    Lol somebody's mad about 1-3 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post
    "INFP is the kind of person that is actually going to subtly try to manipulate you, they're going to guilt trip you.

    "INFPs try to make you feel bad about yourself"


    "If you don't submit to an INFPs way they're going to label you rude, unfair, a bad person and so on, that's what they're going to spread among people as information

    INFPs are butt hurt people that take everything personal

    infps whine cryand manipulate

    INFPs hate being ignored, they're self centred, they have to be in the spotlight, they have to be centre of attention


    WATCH THE FULL VIDEO HERE.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post
    Her response "That is what YOU want to see, because you are not listening. There is nothing unfair in what I said and no, I'm not talking about specific unhealthy INFP, I'm talking about INFPs.
    i know, i checked the comments. her defensiveness and hostile language comes across as very unprofessional. she did not even address the commentator's concerns. something is off about her, but i don't know what... she seems very haughty and self-important.

    there is no possible way all infps are small-hearted and "self-righteous pricks" like she claims, that is juvenile black-and-white reasoning. and if she is not talking about her own specific experiences with bad infps, then how could she possess such an inaccurate depiction of them? none of the mbti material i've read or my own interactions with infps validate her words.

    "accept yourself as the self-righteous bastard that you [infps] are"

    "infps want to impose their ideals. it's a little retarded, but that's how they think"

    "infps do not even get along with themselves. they lack the ability to get along with people... they are too butthurt, too self-centered. even estjs get nausea off of infp's self-absorption"

    lol, but this woman advertises herself as a counselor? that is not guidance, that is condemnation. who hurt her?
    “As a general rule, people, even the wicked, are much more naïve and simple-hearted than we suppose. And we ourselves are, too.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danali View Post
    [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]"INFP is the kind of person that is actually going to subtly try to manipulate you, they're going to guilt trip you.

    "INFPs try to[COLOR=#ff0000] [SIZE=5]make you feel bad about yourself"
    1) EII is INFJ
    2) Loony Deliria is ESTP, so this determines her perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    2) Loony Deliria is ESTP, so this determines her perception.
    is that your own typing of her? she self-types as IEI, but certainly does not come off that way. she seems very aggressive... all of the IEIs i've known were sensitive to inflammatory language.
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    Now that the truth is out, I'll be waiting impatiently for the special on 60 minutes. This is going to change Socionics, all our relations, and thus the world. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    is that your own typing of her?
    Versions I say are mine, except when I say other. I did not hear this version befor I decided it, in case you meant this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    i'm watching more of her mbti videos and she brought up infps and how "sexually promiscuous" they are on a totally unrelated video... who hurt this woman? why does she hate infps so much? did an infp steal her boyfriend? kill her dog?



    check 0:51 and 3:27

    "one of the biggest cliches about enfps is actually about infps, in that they would be all, uh, "My Little Pony", glitter stuff, but that's not who they are."


    "but they are not sexually promiscuous in any way as infps oops! i didn't say that!"
    I don know if she still does, but in the past this ILE woman self-typed as an INFP. F-ing hilarious. Every time I see video of her referenced on this site, I'm reminded of the video where she was sitting on her sofa with her legs spread wide, elaborating on the MBTI wisdoms.

    I would like to comment some more, but I had a drink to many at the moment...

    ETA: can someone tell me if ILEs such as this woman like to be spanked during sex?
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    She's an N type probably ILE
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    here is a list of things that are not type-related:

    morality ethics upbringing culture education background opportunities luck monetary status social status peer pressure familial pressure luck etiquette intelligence kindness open-mindedness tolerance exposure wisdom tragedy complexes preferences taste fashion choices

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    I got maybe 20 seconds into the second video and stopped it because she sounds annoying.

    /constructive post

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    Not socionics.

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    Why do people get butt-hurt if someone doesnt like their or any particular type? If the stereotype doesnt apply to you, mock it. If it does, own it.

    I also think she's ILE.

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    That woman is not ILE
    "When it gets down to it, when you’re drowning, you don’t say, ‘I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,’ you just scream."

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    I find her style interesting. Fuck neutrality, she needs to just keep saying what these types are really like.

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    This woman and all other typologists like her are the cancer that is killing socionics and mbti.


    Bring back DJ Arendee. He'd make typology great again.



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    I'm just going to be controversial here and say some of the OP points are actually pretty accurate for INFj.

    Yes:

    "INFP is the kind of person that is actually going to subtly try to manipulate you, they're going to guilt trip you.

    "INFPs try to make you feel bad about yourself"


    "If you don't submit to an INFPs way they're going to label you rude, unfair, a bad person and so on, that's what they're going to spread among people as information


    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    ^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya

    Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    [QUOTE=wacey;1149154]^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya

    Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
    Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    [QUOTE=Maritsa;1149541]
    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    ^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya

    Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
    Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
    sooooo....manipulation.
    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    It doesn't matter why they manipulate the point was to demonstrate that they do and its common knowledge.
    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    [QUOTE=Maritsa;1149541]
    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    ^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya

    Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
    Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
    lol have you had to do this in your current relationship?

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    [QUOTE=rougerogue;1149557]
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post

    lol have you had to do this in your current relationship?
    no not yet
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    [QUOTE=Maritsa;1149541]
    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    ^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya

    Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
    Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.

    The LSE-EII duality profile describes manipulation in more likely scenarios than what you've described. Your example seems asinine compared to the more chief motivations behind EII manipulation. While you may want to shine a positive light on the type that you self-type, it would be more useful if you find and provide substantive information.

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    [QUOTE=rougerogue;1149559]
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post


    The LSE-EII duality profile describes manipulation in more likely scenarios than what you've described. Your example seems asinine compared to the more chief motivations behind EII manipulation. While you may want to shine a positive light on the type that you self-type, it would be more useful if you find and provide substantive information.
    Well, I'm not you and I look at people's actions and behaviors around me constantly. I just let people be so I'm sure I don't have "substantial information" that meets your needs.
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post

    Well, I'm not you and I look at people's actions and behaviors around me constantly. I just let people be so I'm sure I don't have "substantial information" that meets your needs.
    Fair enough
    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Fair enough
    With IEE, EII complains about them being interested in other and not paying attention to her. This is because IEE like new relations. But, me knowing every aspect of Ne and how it operates, I'm much more tolerant so I'm not going to complain to explain myself through arguments and nitpicking with IEE as to why they aren't more willing to stay at home and focus on the needs of the relationship as opposed to going to a concert with friends. That's very obvious. An EII who doesn't know Socionics is going to pick fights with IEE asking them why won't they stay at home, why would they have the need to go out with friends (me, I know why...because they need new impressions). Still it's not compatible even if the EII is pressuring IEE to be around them all the time.

    So through Fi base, ethics of relations, EII discovers Ne, intuition of external newness and gets hot and bothered lol Oh the discovery drives her insane because she can't understand why he won't stay at home and be an LSE who comes home and fixes things.
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    With IEE, EII complains about them being interested in other and not paying attention to her. This is because IEE like new relations. But, me knowing every aspect of Ne and how it operates, I'm much more tolerant so I'm not going to complain to explain myself through arguments and nitpicking with IEE as to why they aren't more willing to stay at home and focus on the needs of the relationship as opposed to going to a concert with friends. That's very obvious. An EII who doesn't know Socionics is going to pick fights with IEE asking them why won't they stay at home, why would they have the need to go out with friends (me, I know why...because they need new impressions). Still it's not compatible even if the EII is pressuring IEE to be around them all the time.

    So through Fi base, ethics of relations, EII discovers Ne, intuition of external newness and gets hot and bothered lol Oh the discovery drives her insane because she can't understand why he won't stay at home and be an LSE who comes home and fixes things.
    I've seen EII nitpicking over issues of Te, even going so far as demanding the IEE be more like a Te person at work. For instance, expecting the IEE to figure out the best course of action.
    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    I've seen EII nitpicking over issues of Te, even going so far as demanding the IEE be more like a Te person at work. For instance, expecting the IEE to figure out the best course of action.
    It's because that person doesn't know Socionics and doesn't understand the need for that function in themselves.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    It's because that person doesn't know Socionics and doesn't understand the need for that function in themselves.
    Sounds about right.
    "So if you do not acknowledge in your heart the values that surpass yourself, you are in a psychological state where your sole existence is meaningless."

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    Well yeah, I can make other people feel like shit for not being as over the top Light and Heroic as me. =/

    Only a 110% pure sadist asshole motherfucka villain has any chance to stand up to an INFp either. Because guilt/empathy, what's that to them? Absolutely nothing that's what. But then the INFp can more easily see through somebody's guise of goodness as well to the emptiness that is inside them too... but still it is your best chance probably if you don't wanna be manipulated by us.
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    EII are INFj, not INFp, BulletsAndDoves...

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