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    So, I finally made a video for typing. I ended it oddly because I was hearing someone in the other room and it freaked me out. Also, I realized after the fact that I messed up inductive and deductive reasoning, they should be switched. I tried to act like my most natural self but it's hard on camera so it may seem wooden. Also, it's long btw. Enjoy!


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    Very introverted and IP-ish. You seem to be a specific variant of IEI-Ni that i've run into a few times before. Somehow not what i was expecting, but i think you fit the type well.

    IEI>EII>SEI

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    @summerprincess you look like @Aylen you are both IEI final

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    @Aylen -strain of IEI.

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    IEI fits

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    I could definitely see IEI, you remind me of Kate Bush

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    Kate Bush might be fi, at least she seems rational...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Kate Bush might be fi, at least she seems rational...
    Really? She comes off as extremely IPish to me, idk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Really? She comes off as extremely IPish to me, idk.
    I'm not sure : ) i go between iei and fi-dom with her. Something bothers me with Fe creative for her, but really not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I could definitely see IEI, you remind me of Kate Bush

    I was thinking zooey deschanel, it was the initial 2 seconds.


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    I think you're an fi Dom but I can't decide between esi and eii

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    Did you use sedative meds (or something with similar effect) in last 2 weeks? I see supressed emotionality and need to understand how much it relates to a type.

    Would be useful if you'd try to check are Te or Ti bloggers examples give you more friendly sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Did you use sedative meds (or something with similar effect) in last 2 weeks? I see supressed emotionality and need to understand how much it relates to a type.

    Would be useful if you'd try to check are Te or Ti bloggers examples give you more friendly sympathy.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    @summerprincess you look like @Aylen you are both IEI final
    There are some facial similarities.

    I am slower in speech and movement.


    Will delete video soon. I was just playing around with filters.
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    @Aylen -strain of IEI.
    Last edited by Aylen; 09-09-2016 at 05:58 PM.

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    @Aylen you guys look and act so much alike it's uncanny
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Did you use sedative meds (or something with similar effect) in last 2 weeks? I see supressed emotionality and need to understand how much it relates to a type.

    Would be useful if you'd try to check are Te or Ti bloggers examples give you more friendly sympathy.
    Yes I was on Lorazepam for a couple of months and am coming off it. Sedatives don't really suppress my emotions though, I just act 'slower' when I am on them. Pretty sure the extremely low dose I am on now (taking 0.25 mg every other day; a regular dose would be 1 mg/day) does not affect my behavior or affects it very marginally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerprincess View Post
    Yes I was on Lorazepam for a couple of months and am coming off it.
    This changes your nonverbality, while it is used to type you and expected to be natural. The degree of the change is meaningful for nonverbal typing, or I'd did not notice this. Psychotropic meds (anxiolytics, antidepressants, ..) change the behavior, including nonverbal one.

    I just act 'slower' when I am on them.
    Nonverbal expressions become more flat, - lesser clear, lesser details can be seen. To type in such conditions is like to watch through a cloth or to hear through a wall.

    extremely low dose
    It's low to remove symptoms of target disorders, but may affect your nonverbal behavior. Also some time is needed to clean the body and maybe to return natural neurologic functions. The fact is I've noticed unnaturally supressed nonverbal behavior and you get med wich may do it.
    I think, the minimum gap between the last day of taking psychotropic meds and typing by video should be 2 weeks or more, - it's half of moon cycle when body makes kind of reset (twice per month). If you'll do new video in your normal psychic condition, it's better to create new theme or notice me by pm.
    Meanwhile, you may try bloggers list to check what versions of your type fit better to IR theory. This step you may do without my help, as you should know IR theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This changes your nonverbality, while it is used to type you and expected to be natural. The degree of the change is meaningful for nonverbal typing, or I'd did not notice this. Psychotropic meds (anxiolytics, antidepressants, ..) change the behavior, including nonverbal one.



    Nonverbal expressions become more flat, - lesser clear, lesser details can be seen. To type in such conditions is like to watch through a cloth or to hear through a wall.



    It's low to remove symptoms of target disorders, but may affect your nonverbal behavior. Also some time is needed to clean the body and maybe to return natural neurologic functions. The fact is I've noticed unnaturally supressed nonverbal behavior and you get med wich may do it.
    I think, the minimum gap between the last day of taking psychotropic meds and typing by video should be 2 weeks or more, - it's half of moon cycle when body makes kind of reset (twice per month). If you'll do new video in your normal psychic condition, it's better to create new theme or notice me by pm.
    Meanwhile, you may try bloggers list to check what versions of your type fit better to IR theory. This step you may do without my help, as you should know IR theory.
    Lol that does not make any sense. The half life of lorazepam is less than a day. The dose I am taking is so weak it is not prescribed as a normal dose; the only reason I am taking it is because I'm tapering off the drug. Even if my dose was 2 mg/day though, the lorazepam would still be out of my system completely w/i three days. Withdrawal symptoms can still happen but sedative effects from a drug that is out of the system? No. It would make more sense to say that I can make a video after 2 days of stopping the drug. Regardless, I personally am not experiencing sedative effects from the drug anymore esp at such a low dose. bc I built up a tolerance. Edit: It also might be helpful for me to add that I see where you are coming from and I acted pretty suppressed/wooden in the video because that is just how I tend to act (even when not on meds) when I'm not a) explicitly trying to be friendly to people, b) when im uncomfortable/in front of a camera. I could easily make another video where I act very happy and open but it would be just that, acting! I tend to look very serious when I am answering questions and talking to a camera naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaein View Post
    I think you're an fi Dom but I can't decide between esi and eii
    ESI? Definitely not; im not a sensing type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This changes your nonverbality, while it is used to type you and expected to be natural. The degree of the change is meaningful for nonverbal typing, or I'd did not notice this. Psychotropic meds (anxiolytics, antidepressants, ..) change the behavior, including nonverbal one.



    Nonverbal expressions become more flat, - lesser clear, lesser details can be seen. To type in such conditions is like to watch through a cloth or to hear through a wall.



    It's low to remove symptoms of target disorders, but may affect your nonverbal behavior. Also some time is needed to clean the body and maybe to return natural neurologic functions. The fact is I've noticed unnaturally supressed nonverbal behavior and you get med wich may do it.
    I think, the minimum gap between the last day of taking psychotropic meds and typing by video should be 2 weeks or more, - it's half of moon cycle when body makes kind of reset (twice per month). If you'll do new video in your normal psychic condition, it's better to create new theme or notice me by pm.
    Meanwhile, you may try bloggers list to check what versions of your type fit better to IR theory. This step you may do without my help, as you should know IR theory.

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I'd say IEI or EII. If IEI, then IEI-Ni....

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    Ni can give that remote quality you guys pinpointed. My best friend (an IEI) used to lean heavily on her Fe when we were kids and she was under intense social pressure. But over time, as she pursued her own course in life, her affect became increasingly soft and distant. She still gets more sparkly when interacting directly with people. If you had her make a video alone, with no one to talk to, it would probably be a lot like this one. She's also got anxiety, and the more it flares up, the more deadpan she seems -- almost like a physical counterreaction to her internal state.

    Tl; dr: IEI works for summerprincess.

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    What does logical mean? using your brain to figure things out without letting too many emotions cloud your opinion; knowing what your emotions are knowing how to control them; when you're being serious about something so you don't want to become too emotional or emotionally involved; it's about being objective; using logic is using a theorem to answer questions; using a method to answer a question.

    This was great way of explaining Logic. Now how do you see this as your PoLR and how would you see someone who is seeking it benefiting from logic.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    What does logical mean? using your brain to figure things out without letting too many emotions cloud your opinion; knowing what your emotions are knowing how to control them; when you're being serious about something so you don't want to become too emotional or emotionally involved; it's about being objective; using logic is using a theorem to answer questions; using a method to answer a question.

    This was great way of explaining Logic. Now how do you see this as your PoLR and how would you see someone who is seeking it benefiting from logic.
    Well, I'm permanently confused by everything, especially math and practical/pragmatic things such as fixing stuff, driving, putting things away correctly/in the right order, etc. Also this (the text below) is very true of me. I rely on an inner conceptuality of things for everything...I don't necessarily see it as reliable but it is how I come to instant conclusions that I can rethink later when I have the time.
    "They may feel threatened and vacillate if pressured into producing critical evaluations of factual information or statistics; they may feel as though they do not know what to do with this type of information, and often prefer to rely on their internal conceptual framework use their understanding of the relevant processes to evaluate a situation."



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    IEI.

    I have seen IEIs studying math though. Probably not too common and probably not too thrilled. Right order and stuff: Well, I think body (Si) plays very important role here much more than logic. When you are truly logical person you can just see the steps and if you an N type then you tend to neglect your body in the process which leads to different applications of logic between sensing and intuitive types. (<-logic right there)
    (As a logically creative person I can become a bit perplexed with very detailed mathematical analysis but there are LIIs... the need for depth in details. It is pretty funny how can I pull pretty accurate statistics out of my ass.)
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    So called false dual logic that actually reveals some remote potentials:
    "sure crocodiles can fly, but very, very close to the ground"
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    Dictionaries exist to help us understand the meaning of words. If everyone made up their own meaning for every word, communication would be impossible. If you want to understand what logic means, get a dictionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weirdleftovers View Post
    Dictionaries exist to help us understand the meaning of words. If everyone made up their own meaning for every word, communication would be impossible. If you want to understand what logic means, get a dictionary.
    Thanks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerprincess View Post
    Well, I'm permanently confused by everything, especially math and practical/pragmatic things such as fixing stuff, driving, putting things away correctly/in the right order, etc. Also this (the text below) is very true of me. I rely on an inner conceptuality of things for everything...I don't necessarily see it as reliable but it is how I come to instant conclusions that I can rethink later when I have the time.
    "They may feel threatened and vacillate if pressured into producing critical evaluations of factual information or statistics; they may feel as though they do not know what to do with this type of information, and often prefer to rely on their internal conceptual framework use their understanding of the relevant processes to evaluate a situation."


    As an IEI, I relate completely. It's one of the more frustrating aspects about my personality, but I guess that's just Te PoLR for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    What does logical mean? using your brain to figure things out without letting too many emotions cloud your opinion; knowing what your emotions are knowing how to control them; when you're being serious about something so you don't want to become too emotional or emotionally involved; it's about being objective; using logic is using a theorem to answer questions; using a method to answer a question.

    This was great way of explaining Logic. Now how do you see this as your PoLR and how would you see someone who is seeking it benefiting from logic.
    As for the bolded: don't Ethics egos know what their emotions are?

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    I think definitely Fi ego, from how you communicate here you don't seem interested in affecting the emotional atmosphere, or you don't care how you affect it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    As for the bolded: don't Ethics egos know what their emotions are?
    I don't always know what my emotions are. And sometimes when I do know what they are, I think I'm having the wrong ones.

    I'm more readily attuned to other people's emotions and preoccupied with scanning the environment. My own emotional life is a jungle I struggle to hack through. There is too much going on there and too little clarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenbane View Post
    I don't always know what my emotions are. And sometimes when I do know what they are, I think I'm having the wrong ones.

    I'm more readily attuned to other people's emotions and preoccupied with scanning the environment. My own emotional life is a jungle I struggle to hack through. There is too much going on there and too little clarity.
    That's fine, I understand Fe base works like this but I really cannot see knowing what your emotions are as just part of logical reasoning. Labeling emotions in a logical manner is certainly possible but in certain areas this requires emotional awareness and ability to identify emotions first in a way that to me is Ethics and not Logic. Since those areas are very Ethics based anyway, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenbane View Post
    I don't always know what my emotions are. And sometimes when I do know what they are, I think I'm having the wrong ones.

    I'm more readily attuned to other people's emotions and preoccupied with scanning the environment. My own emotional life is a jungle I struggle to hack through. There is too much going on there and too little clarity.
    Yes to all of this and I'm Fe creative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epheme View Post
    Yes to all of this and I'm Fe creative.
    Sure, no one said Fe creative is extremely different or anything. I also recall talking to an IEI-Fe on this forum before (@Lim) who said something similar.

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    You seem extroverted to me, although maybe that's sx.

    I totally would believe beta NF, you really don't seem to care about Te or be good at it. A lot of what you say sounds practical, yet refreshingly not T-based (most women I know IRL are logical, so it's nice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenbane View Post
    My best friend (an IEI) used to lean heavily on her Fe when we were kids and she was under intense social pressure. But over time, as she pursued her own course in life, her affect became increasingly soft and distant.
    Not to derail but totally relate

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    You seem extroverted to me, although maybe that's sx.

    I totally would believe beta NF, you really don't seem to care about Te or be good at it. A lot of what you say sounds practical, yet refreshingly not T-based (most women I know IRL are logical, so it's nice).
    First person in the thread to say I seem extroverted, haha. What makes you say that? I tried to keep the most natural tone possible in the video (kinda comes off like flat affect), w/o trying to add extra friendliness because that takes effort for me. In public I often make a purposeful effort to seem nicer and more emotive. I was under the impression most extroverts were a lil more expressive lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    I think definitely Fi ego, from how you communicate here you don't seem interested in affecting the emotional atmosphere, or you don't care how you affect it.
    This forum doesn't have much of an emotional atmosphere except for being full of introverted, cerebral, intuitive people. I have noticed a good amount of forum members can actually be directly rude to one another

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    I just glanced at your video and I think you are somewhere between ESI and ESI-Fi. This surprised me because I always just assumed you were IEI.

    This is just a first impression, though, and is based on a lot of micro-expressions. I also saw an IEI expression. I will take a closer look at this later today, and will give specific reasons for my wild-ass guess.

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