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    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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    Germany is the six of all sixes. You'd think we're ones but that's just a fix. The truth is: Here, people even manage to criticize criticism and cause panic over it, it's incredible. Not that I myself am criticizing the criticism in my country, that would be straight-up betrayal.
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    Heroism is weakness.

    I'm 6.

    Hello.

    Dostoievsky was the most representative of all 6. Work on faith, do I beleive, don't I ? Idiot thinking "super important work is necessarely 4" think he's a 4. His strength was his ability to please idiot. They will probably end to stop putting him on pedestal just because he's not like them. Idiot beta. When Freud was trendish, he would have been typed a 4. Now that he's useless, he's a 6. (freud : 6-4-1 imo)

    I agree with Germany, this is a 6 empowering culture. Simple, rationnal, efficient, seemingly permanent society management, no big change, only small step to small step. Merkel is 1 (ESTJ normalizing) or at least play very well the role. I would love to work in Germany, infinite life.


    Seriously, any take on "six are weak" ? I would like to listen to that ? I just read a thread about that at Perc, I think that in reality it's not a problem of 6 since they aren't into the power triad : this is just the beginning of some neurosis due to the "comparison with other" : six will compare themself with other, what they have, don't have, can't really pinpoint why they feel bad about their life, then they end to read post like that, wich say that they are weak. Then you have reaction wich is from utter imbecility like in the Perc thread, 6 defending themself, trying to find what is strong in them in the convenient cultural way, wich generally end with ultra valuing courage the wrong stuff, then it become only a cultural standard not necesseraly backed with act. For me, The take of 5 on life is even more idiot than 6, since they can be Se POLR and trying to be napoleon (on the premise socionic type are linked to enneagram, wich is, imo). The most idiot 5 Se polr end in depression bc they are aware logic is not something wich can make you napoleon tomorrow (depression is idiocy). Damn I can't be serious today.

    In all, I'm sorry to write all this but I can't stand when 6 (and so myself) want to defend themself as if they was strong and stuff : this is typically what lead to massacre in term of personality, relationship. For a 6 who have a problem with personnal power, I would like to invite them to reflect on their goal methodically : firstly, 6 goal generally have nothing to do with power, we have often the idea that we don't need this kind of stuff for meeting our goal. But, yes, as a 6 we have a need of power for accomplishing some of our goal. It's impossible without it because we are in a complex world, where there is unmet need, where there is various kind of people, where we aren't like if we was a small child with a mother doing everything for us. I say that because I would like to stop this junk phoniness some 6 have when they want to be seen as more powerfull than they are. The goal is to use power methodologically for yourself, for your goal and goal of other, but not trying to appear something you are not or defending yourself to death that "you are strong". This neurosis never existed in the first time, it's just you at the end admitting with the wrong word your weakness.

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    blah blah blah.

    I wanna ask too, do some six have a problem with the relationship beetween act and moral self righteousness or it's just me ? This is problematic for me and I'm annoyed with that. Take of other ppl could help, thx

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    649, cant tell if sp/so or so/sx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    649, cant tell if sp/so or so/sx
    The tritype of "triple doubt," the "introverted 6"...? That seems unlikely. 6 core I can see easily, but 4 fix I question heavily.

    Something about her reminds me of Milla Jovovich (possibly both of em being positive 9-fixed 6w7 SEE's).
    6w7, Sp/Sx

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    One-to-one

    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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    this is something like 6w5 sp/so - population control and engineering conspiracy theories

    "mind control cyber cages" spooky stuff


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    6w5



    I don't like guessing games
    Or when I feel things
    Before I know the feelings
    How am I supposed to operate
    If I'm just tossed around by fate?
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    6w5


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    Just watched that a few days ago @Viktor. Good example.

    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     




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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    649, cant tell if sp/so or so/sx
    She does seem e6w7, and SEE, too, probably. I like her furniture and her use of space.

    She has another video called "It's Over", in which she agonizes about increasingly unlikely disasters. I had no idea that people worried like that.

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    Feat. E4

    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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    Tell me what if I'm bound for disaster?
    What if I fall off the cliff?
    Will I ever just learn how to live
    and not wonder what if?
    What if?
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    Oh, mirror in the sky
    What is love?
    Can the child within my heart rise above
    Can I sail through the changing ocean tides
    Can I handle the seasons of my life

    Well, I've been afraid of changin'
    'Cause I built my life around you
    But time makes you bolder
    Children get older
    I'm getting older too


    can I do this or that/am I strong enough for this/can I handle this=6


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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    Disintegration to 3





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    a 6 supervising unhealthy 3s


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    Awesome description I just came across today that mentions things I haven't seen elsewhere

    http://enneagramsubtypes.weebly.com/6-wings.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    Awesome description I just came across today that mentions things I haven't seen elsewhere

    http://enneagramsubtypes.weebly.com/6-wings.html
    I feel vaguely infantilized by the 6w7 description, but it's pretty much all true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafera View Post
    I feel vaguely infantilized by the 6w7 description, but it's pretty much all true...
    It’s a really accurate description of an ESI-Se whom I know and really like. It saddens me a bit because it implies that she won’t settle down. With me.

    You’d think that LIE-ESI and 8w7 - 6w7 would be great, and to be honest, the chemistry is deep and wide. I actually told her she’s just about perfect. But she’s like an easily spooked horse, no matter how solid I am.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    It’s a really accurate description of an ESI-Se whom I know and really like. It saddens me a bit because it implies that she won’t settle down. With me.

    You’d think that LIE-ESI and 8w7 - 6w7 would be great, and to be honest, the chemistry is deep and wide. I actually told her she’s just about perfect. But she’s like an easily spooked horse, no matter how solid I am.

    Something I've noticed is that my 6 tendencies directly correlate with my overall level of self-confidence. If I feel overall good about things, the 6w7 spookedness drops considerably. Meanwhile, if my sense of self/my positive self-identity is threatened, it flares up considerably. If someone displays a lot of visible 6w7 behavior, it may well be a manifestation of other problems in their life. Anger, regret, sadness--6s convert most of these emotions into anxiety. I'm not mad, I'm extremely frustrated and worried that someone's going to continue with their incredibly destructive behavior and the consequences therein oh wait I am mad. I don't feel guilty, I feel anxious that I will continue making poor decisions. I'm not sad, I'm worried I won't be happy again.

    I think what 6w7s need the most is to feel like they are capable of handling the negative consequences of what life throws at them. 6s assume that they can't do that, hence anxiety. Promote the 6's intrinsic strength: "The worst case scenario happens? You can handle it. You're smart and you can figure things out". Provide evidence. Walk them through solutions to the "what if" rather than saying the "what if" won't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafera View Post
    Something I've noticed is that my 6 tendencies directly correlate with my overall level of self-confidence. If I feel overall good about things, the 6w7 spookedness drops considerably. Meanwhile, if my sense of self/my positive self-identity is threatened, it flares up considerably. If someone displays a lot of visible 6w7 behavior, it may well be a manifestation of other problems in their life. Anger, regret, sadness--6s convert most of these emotions into anxiety. I'm not mad, I'm extremely frustrated and worried that someone's going to continue with their incredibly destructive behavior and the consequences therein oh wait I am mad. I don't feel guilty, I feel anxious that I will continue making poor decisions. I'm not sad, I'm worried I won't be happy again.

    I think what 6w7s need the most is to feel like they are capable of handling the negative consequences of what life throws at them. 6s assume that they can't do that, hence anxiety. Promote the 6's intrinsic strength: "The worst case scenario happens? You can handle it. You're smart and you can figure things out". Provide evidence. Walk them through solutions to the "what if" rather than saying the "what if" won't happen.
    @Stellafera, Thank you very much for writing that.

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    6w5 so/sx the 'darksider' sx subtype ExTx


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This doesn't take a grain of salt, it takes a: BIG ASS SALTY ASS FREAKING ASS GAY MOUNTAIN!

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