Dose anyone else find themselves doing this as a sort of game/diversion tactic? Is it type related?
T types women sometimes may to play dumbs to look more feminine and interesting.
When a woman makes nerdy talking (while T ones live with this in head) then men take her as passing on their territory (pre-industrial culture is still with us) and partly perceive as competitor. It's the last thing a woman would want if she wants romantic relations.
Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
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Well, it probably depends on the definition of "dumb" but I had been praised for my cosmic Ti skills (as in: I had been straining my role function like woah) my whole life and now I steadfastly refuse to use it even when I easily could, sometimes for the sheer pleasure of not doing it, sometimes just to spite LIIs. It gives me this tingly feeling when I watch their bafflement at their sudden inability to maneuver someone into using Ti or even recognizing its significance in any way.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
i generally act however i want to act (sometimes that involves doing or saying stupid things out of humor, irony, or just plain carelessness), and if someone thinks i'm dumb I'll let them think that. It doesn't bother me because i usually find that it's more due to the other person's lack of perceptiveness and understanding of the situation.
Sometimes I don't share what I know about something because there's more to learn from being quiet and letting the other person talk.
I do this a lot in the army. If they think you're dumb or incapable, they don't expect much from you. The people that take initiative get to do all the work for me.
I suppose my playing dumb is also meant to scare away certain type of people and draw in the ones who make me feel comfortable, who help me unwind, whom with I share some kind of understanding. On their behalf, I can become very thoughtful and analytical if need be, but I can only be pressured into it by situation, not by a person looking for a mental stretching with a partner. I don't entertain that any more.
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
I've done it for a few reasons in the past, mostly to avoid doing something someone wanted me to do because I disagreed with it, forcing the conversation to open up and get my foot in the door.
Your thoughts are almost entirely contingent on your specific experience. Why be so attached to them?
i haven't really done this since my teens or early twenties. i probably got out of the "habit" in college because it didn't benefit me to pretend to be dumb. however, i have chameleon tendencies and can feign things automatically to influence the direction something is taking (the direction may be the other person's attitudes or thoughts even ). in the way in which i sort of go about things (when i tell someone something, and how, etc. and even sometimes how i behave in the interim) i can be kind of manipulative, especially if i put my mind to it (which i often don't and i've never considered myself a great strategist anyway). some of my chameleon tendencies leave me seeming scattered or confusing, which has been serving me while i'm not well. i can also say something didn't occur to me when it did but i didn't take action on it out of weakness or laziness (so that i guess *is* still playing dumb). i can lie by saying i don't remember or that i don't know, as well.
mainly i seem to want to cast an obscuring field over myself often to hide my weaknesses... i can hide my true intentions and motivations, although more often i may not yet quite know what i want. mainly i am disturbed by certain courses or directions of things and every time a disturbance strikes, i seem to automatically make an adjustment. it's easy to adjust my behavior or expression often but less easy to take actions... so i sub for my weakness in action-taking with behavior, i suppose. i'm not trying to be "bad" in doing these things. i am constantly reflecting over the things i do and trying to fix or change myself when needed. i have a sort of obscure me-in-five-years-ish image i am trying to reach and it is not an entirely selfish goal. i don't wish to harm others in general as it always just harms me... but when i am miserable as i often am and struggling to function i end up being more "base" (an animal trying to survive). i also struggle between love and hate a lot. my temperament sort of smooths a lot of this out on the surface much of the time.
in a lot of ways i am being selfish so as not to sacrifice myself and what i need for the purpose of being able to sacrifice myself in the ways in which i can or want to, later. in my current messed up state i can't give much of myself at all--not my energy, my time, my heart, so on. sometimes i am too full and brimming with something that badly needs to be poured out constructively, rather than fleetingly wasted... and i am tired of being trapped such that i can't actually use it effectively. i've also been very careless for the last couple years at least... careless, self-indulgent, and imprudent. this is a symptom i think of my imbalance and although it is troubling i don't think it is necessarily going to be terrible in the long run. it is like these long streaks of energy reaching out of me chaotically, stupidly and recklessly... but it is out of desperation. i am trying not to die inside, and this is like the part of me that is screaming. sometimes it's just what i have that i can't give to something, bleeding out fleetingly.
to right the imbalance i have to get back control of action and being capable... i have grown in my ability to communicate with others and a little in assertiveness, but i'm still kind of under the surface of the water. the good thing is that i don't see myself as doomed anymore... there's a way and i can see it if i can just get myself into gear.
today my head is actually doing well... i am not overwhelmed by shit that needs to be organized or dealt with to the extent i usually am. my health is probably the secret thing under all of this that is making things bad. i think i sometimes don't realize how hard it actually is and that it's not because of how i'm thinking but because my health is messed up.
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Especially, After I've done some stupid ( U dun fuq up type) and being confronted why I did it. And knowing there is no reasonable way out , I would prefer playing dumb rather than making up some reason or saying something that will get me in further trouble.
I've been using this tactic to deal with my parents and big sis since I was 10
Don't have to. Intelligence is bourgeois.
I don't play dumb I actually do need help with stuff. My fine motor skills suck, I'm disorganized, spacey and I can't fix things. It's a lot easier and more relaxing to rely on other people to help me w certain things. The bad thing is some ppl probably think I'm faking the spaciness because I'm smart otherwise.
No. I'm a true airhead half of the time.
LSI-Se 836 8w7 3w4 CP6w7 SP/SX
Playing dumb to get the upper hand can be a good strategy, people think you are weak and pathetic and then you destroy them shortly after.
yup, and it's very natural and spontaneous too which is almost embarrassing xD I do it until I have reason to attack you, then I'll subdue that side of me.
[H-EII-Ne] [FVEL, Chekhov] [9w1 sp/sx]
I would definitely prefer to have an appearance that is approachable and unintimidating as possible, it fits more with my hidden agenda.~ no pun intended
See that is where I devalue Se... I don't look at readily available implications of what someone's influence and power over me is, I see right through it and pay no care to it... or at least until they tell me what to do then I submit >w<
[H-EII-Ne] [FVEL, Chekhov] [9w1 sp/sx]
A lot of the people I interact with daily don't need to play dumb.
Yeah, the truth of the matter is that sometimes you gotta play dumb to manipulate others to work your way out of a situation. Being intellectually honest can backfire if you lack any kind of real authority.
Also with a narcissist or highly competitive person, it's actually an effective strategy becuz if you try to add anything to the convo- they will try to 'one up' you every time. And they will often succeed because they don't have things like empathy and morals holding them back like you do. Playing dumb or just being quiet can force the person to look more inside of themselves and how moral they are really being as well. It's pointless to truly engage if you aren't willing to be as bloodthristy as the other person.
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The only time I play dumb is when someone's into me and I don't feel like addressing it at present.
SEE-Se, 873 sx/so
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I've admitted to 'playing dumb' a few times in my life as an excuse to get out of things I didn't want to do.
EII - INTj - Dostoyevsky -
No, it's not a typo!
I'm typically straightforward. If someone is talking about something that I know a lot about I will not hesitate to correct or inform them.
I suppose that if I don't want to be in a dramatic or political situation, even if it concerns me, I'll feign indifference to it, but I don't know if that counts as "playing dumb."
My life is, like, based on this.
My only fear of death is comin' back to this bitch reincarnated.
[Today 08:14 PM] Bullets: You're an attention seeking ******
In some rare cases, I just don't bother explaining everything that goes on in my head. It takes too long.
Going all out, on the other hand, is my default way of expression... and testing a person.
Especially if they are a misogynist. @Sol, a lot of men are comfortable with a female's "nerdy talk". If you can talk nerdy - and geeky, that is also important - together, isn't that the best thing ever? If you look down on a woman who is proficient in something that you like to talk about as well, you're missing out on all the fun, extra knowledge and bonding. One word: Sapiosexuality :thumbsup:
I love a little intellectual competition in relationships (heteroromantic ones as we are talking about male ⇔ female here) because it improves our reasoning skills and well, getting under my partner's skin is my #1 objective. Some kind of intellectual exchange is crucial in general. I can be taciturn but when I'm with my significant other, ohh... <3 They can talk to me all day if they want to, about everything, and I will talk to them, about everything. Conversation helps us get in sync. I love to know more about them so I don't hold back, they can do the same. Playing dumb is not an option for me. If they don't respect that, they have to leave. I don't need a person like that in my life, I know my worth. If they can handle it, they're the right one for me and vice versa.
"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that
is in the discovery and defense of the *new*. The world is often unkind to new talent,
new creations. The new needs friends."-Anton Ego, Ratatouille