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    Which enneagram types do you think make for best liars?

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    6s because fuck those guys, right? Right???

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    I know a 6w7 who was a pathological liar. He'd just lie about the most random stuff to make himself seem more interesting, or to get the upper hand on something. He'd also spread lies about people to make them look bad and hurt their reputation (in that Regina George kind of way). I never understood why he felt the need to do it. I could always intuitively tell when he was lying, but if I called him out on it, he would turn it around and manipulate me to make me feel bad about it by either calling me crazy or reacting in a "how dare you accuse me of that" kind of way, followed by tears or a screaming tantrum. He was probably a sociopath with BPD, though.
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    The image triad already lies to themselves so

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    Definitely 3s, their whole existence is based upon living lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alioth View Post
    Definitely 3s, their whole existence is based upon living lies.
    So do 2 and 4.

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    7's, 8's and 9's also lie a lot. In fact every type lies, just for different reasons. The best liars? Maybe 3 and 9.

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    I would never tell a lie. Often, it is necessary to distort the truth. I would probably tell the truth if it was in my interest to do so.
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    Well, any type can lie or tell the truth but the general tendencies I see are:

    Type 1- Tend not to be liars as it compromises their moral integrity.
    Type 2- May lie to spare someone elses feelings and have the person like them.
    Type 3- May lie to make themselves look more successful and better than they are.
    Type 4- Tend not to lie as it compromises their personal authenticity.
    Type 5- Tend not to life as it compromises their need for logical accuracy.
    Type 6- May vacillate between being truthful and stretching things a bit. Have anxiety about this.
    Type 7- May lie to avoid getting into trouble or compromising their freedom.
    Type 8- Tend to be truth tellers and bluntly tell the truth, even when a white lie would be better.
    Type 9- May lie to avoid conflict with others and preserve their inner peace.
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    Lies to oneself or others or both?

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    To others. Lying to oneself is rather a question of denial I think, that's worth another thread.

    Now, I tried to rank the types. It depends on strength of conviction. The type that doesn't think that they are lying is the best. Hence:

    Best 2>9>3>6>4>5>7>8>1 Worst

    2 has the strongest positive, external conviction: "I love them, how could I not tell the truth"
    1 has the strongest negative, internal conviction: "My conscience tells me not to lie."

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