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    since i've been on this forum and my type has been in question (for the first month or so that i was here i initially thought i was INTp) it seems to me that a lot of people have mentioned to me that they think i'm INTp, even though i see a lot of Ti elements in myself. there are obviously other people who think i'm INTj.

    so, what type am i and, however briefly your explanations may be, why?

    edit: dammit, i left out ISTp. if you think that might be my type, say so.

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    To make a possibly long story short: You and I seem to be very much alike, so ... INTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    To make a possibly long story short: You and I seem to be very much alike, so ... INTp.
    as you probably could surmise, i have to take that comment with a rather large grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    To make a possibly long story short: You and I seem to be very much alike, so ... INTp.
    as you probably could surmise, i have to take that comment with a rather large grain of salt.
    Why?

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    because, as sure as you may be about your own type, i am not as sure. any further discussion would be a waste of time.

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    I say INTp because of your enormous similarities to Erkki. (that was very predictable, now wasn't it? )
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    INTp or ISTp imho. Probably INTp but hard to verify because you are a logical subtype so Ni/Si difference is not that clear. Your ironic attitude is very INTpish anyways.

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    Niffweed, maybe you could describe your Ti. Seems that's the function you have thought about a lot. Maybe you are making wrong assumptions (detail oriented=Ti program). Sure it's Ti?
    a) If you are INTj, your Ti is supposed to be strong.
    b) If you are INTp Te-subtype, you are supposed to have a lot of Ti.

    When do you use Ti and how do you use it?

    What is your goal in life?
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    well, i will say that i am probably not very detail oriented.

    the problem is, i don't know exactly which functions i use, and certainly don't restrict myself to the use of a given function at a given time. but i can definitely see something of a subjective factor in my thought processes, and i identify very much with a lot of the Ti material which is presented.

    i have no well defined goal in life.

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    I don't know if you had noticed this post in Phaedrus's thread, but I didn't want to write it again and I want to know if you relate. The point is that some parts of Ni can sound quite similar to Ti. Ni is a carefully selected combination of detailed facts. It's the simulation of the real world. It combines facts in a personalized way and makes a system.

    http://the16types.no-ip.info/forums/...r=asc&start=60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    can't see the trees, because it is more interested in the wood(s). can't see the wood(s), because it is so focused on the trees and what they are made of.
    This is true on a very superficial level, but I can't say it's a good way to put it. There is no forest without the trees. The tree itself is a piece of the puzzle and the roots pulling the water from the ground is a piece and hyphae all over the roots and soil... Forest is one HUGE system of things. The closer I look, the smaller the complex system. The tree is a slightly smaller system. I can zoom in and see the tree. Leaves moving in wind. I can look even closer. It's still a system. is not a function that only looks at things from far away.

    The problem at hand: Phaedrus's system of data gave him the result that all things combined, he's INTp.
    Other people say, "no you're not"
    Phaedrus thinks, ok, if the result of my system is wrong, then there is a flaw in my system. And then he starts to review the basics. Everything seems to fit, but others are still getting a different result from the same facts. He could just agree with the others and say that he's some other type, but that would help no one. The system is STILL wrong and it has to be fixed so he would be able to type other people. A correct system/puzzle doesn't give false results. That can only happen with either a system with errors or an incomplete system. Phaedrus finished with the basics and started looking for the errors in the details.
    Then people say, "Ahaa! you are asking about details, that must be !", but they don't realize that every complete thing consists of details. puzzle is just a combination of various pieces.
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    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    well, its very hard to say whether this applies when the only thing that really is explained is that Ni uses a system paying attention to facts and details and comes up with a general principle. i suppose i do that but i believe that both INTx types do that.

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    If those pictures in Photo thread are pictures of you, niffweed, you clearly look more INTp than INTj.

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    hah? i didnt post any pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    hah? i didnt post any pictures.
    Sorry about that. It was dreikin's pictures. Somehow I thought about you, maybe because I have put both of you in the "likely INTp" group. But you might be INTj, I admit that, whereas dreikin is clearly an INTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    You and I seem to be very much alike, ...
    If anything, you just made niffweed's case for INTj much stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogsci
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    You and I seem to be very much alike, ...
    If anything, you just made niffweed's case for INTj much stronger.
    How? What do you mean? Did I miss something?

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    please dont judge my type by that of phaedrus. i dont know if im his type or not. sometimes i agree with him like he could be my identical, but just as often i think he doesnt have a clue what he's talking about. furthermore, he has indicated that he identifies with some material that i do not (and of course many things that i agree with)

    i have tried to stay away from the debate over phaedrus' type because i dont think that he has been entirely reasonable in his assessments. so, all things considered, i don't think its reasonable to necessarily deem phaedrus and myself to be the same type.

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