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    Great, now some misogynistic men will be like, "you wanted equal rights, now you got it bitches!" until they have their own little princess and she is drafted. It is a real possibility if Trump becomes president. Odds are he is going to challenge and anger enough world leaders that we end up at war. He is already talking about making the military huge. I don't think he understands enough about certain cultures to know better. He lacks diplomacy and his tendency to ridicule others is not going to go over well.

    Yet American Muslims and Muslims around the world look on as this sneering buffoon careens toward the White House. Trump personifies the worst version of America in relation to the wider world: our tendency toward selfish exploitation and indulgence, our geographic and cultural ignorance, our bull-in-a-china-shop style of intervention. Trump the candidate is scary enough; Trump in the Oval Office would be far worse. Here would be a man who never apologizes, confronting a world in which we have much to apologize for. Here would be a man who asserts that he never backs down commanding American forces in a chaotic world where de-escalation is the name of the game. Trump would be our Insulter in Chief, the caricatured villain of the world’s worst nightmares.

    I mean this with only a touch of hyperbole: a Trump presidency right now would be a perfect recipe for World War III. Our world is awash with percolating volatility. The alignments and narratives of the Cold War have given way to many factions and countries battling for regional dominance. The European Union teeters on the brink of dissolution. Syria is a snarl of selfish actors, a Sunni-Shi’a and Iranian-Saudi proxy war, poised on a razor’s edge between a murderous dictator on the one hand and ISIS and al Qaeda on the other. The waves of instability radiating out from Syria are not just coming in the form of migrants to Europe, but the entire region is roiling with tension, violence, and the pitiless machinations of dictatorial strongmen. China’s mix of economic limitations and military assertion threatens to upend decades of relative regional peace. Israel and Palestine... North Korean nuclear weapons... Our global order is wobbling.

    Now just imagine President Trump offhandedly picking a fight with Vladimir Putin via Twitter. Imagine President Trump insulting the Prophet Muhammad on a lark. Imagine President Trump burning down 75 years of post-World War II international agreements and collaboration because the UN is too much a part of the establishment.

    I understand how appealing some Americans find the simple notion of America “winning again.” Nationalism and nativism have always been crowd-pleasers. Trump’s policy solutions have this going for them: even a child could understand them. Yet in Trump’s zero-sum vision of the world, America winning means someone else losing. Indeed, given Trump’s ignorant scattershot alienation of the rest of the world, if he did in office even one-tenth of what’s he’s proposing on the campaign trail, America winning would mean the rest of the world losing. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the rest of the world won’t take that lying down.


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    It is already reality that women have to serve in parts of the world. I think the draft is fundamentally unfair to those who do not wish to engage in war whether they are male or female.

    Women are not going to be drafted before able bodied men to engage in combat. I think realistically many would not pass some of the strength requirements and they must have some kind of standards . I think this law has more to do with allowing women who volunteer to have equal opportunities as men. I am sure some women will not volunteer for this reason and others will get out for this reason but many men get out or don't volunteer for the same reasons. Men found it unfair that they had to register and women didn't.

    Women have fought alongside men in many historical wars. I don't think it is fair that people would value a daughter's life over a son's so anyone who has a problem with war, in general, have a problem with children being sent to fight wars started by adults.

    Drafting of women[edit]

    Israeli female soldiers

    Traditionally conscription has been limited to the male population of a given body. Women and handicappedmales have been exempt from conscription. Many societies have traditionally considered military service as a test of manhood and a rite of passage from boyhood into manhood.[53][54]


    As of 2013, countries that were drafting women into military service included Bolivia,[55] Chad,[56]Eritrea,[57][58][59] Israel,[57][58][60] Mozambique [61] and North Korea.[62] Israel has universal female conscription, although in practice women can avoid service by claiming a religious exemption and over a third of Israeli women do so.[57][58][63] Sudanese law allows for conscription of women, but this is not implemented in practice.[64] In the United Kingdom during World War II, beginning in 1941, women were brought into the scope of conscription but, as all women with dependent children were exempt and many women were informally left in occupations such as nursing or teaching, the number conscripted was relatively few.[65]


    Sweden has also considered female conscription because excluding women was thought to go against the ideology of equality.[66]
    In June 2013, the parliament of Norway made a principal resolution to introduce female conscription, being the first country in NATO and Europe to do so.[67] In October 2014 laws were passed by parliament, declaring female conscription, effective from January 2015.[68]


    In the USSR, there was no systematic conscription of women for the armed forces, but the severe disruption of normal life and the high proportion of civilians affected by World War II after the German invasion attracted many volunteers for what was termed "The Great Patriotic War".[69] Medical doctors of both sexes could and would be conscripted (as officers). Also, the free Soviet university education system required Department of Chemistry students of both sexes to complete an ROTC course in NBC defense, and such female reservist officers could be conscripted in times of war. The United States came close to drafting women into the Nurse Corps in preparation for a planned invasion of Japan.[70][71]


    In 1981 in the United States, several men filed lawsuit in the case Rostker v. Goldberg, alleging that the Selective Service Act of 1948 violates the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment by requiring that only men register with the Selective Service System (SSS). The Supreme Court eventually upheld the Act, stating that "the argument for registering women was based on considerations of equity, but Congress was entitled, in the exercise of its constitutional powers, to focus on the question of military need, rather than 'equity.'"[72]


    On October 1, 1999 in the Taiwan Area, the Judicial Yuan of the Republic of China in its Interpretation 490 considered that the physical differences between males and females and the derived role differentiation in their respective social functions and lives would not make drafting only males a violation of the Constitution of the Republic of China.[73][(see discussion) verification needed] Though women are conscripted in Taiwan, transsexualpersons are exempt.[74]
    Women are shot and killed every day with little notice being taken. I think there are far greater things to be horrified at, like the things that would require that someone's son or daughter be drafted in the first place.
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    Before their personalities even have time to fully form.


    1. The draft was ended when the United States military moved to an all-volunteer military force. However, the Selective Service System remains in place as a contingency plan; men between the ages of 18 and 25 are required to register so that a draft can be readily resumed if needed.
    Before Congress made improvements to the draft in 1971, a man could qualify for a student deferment if he could show he was a full-time student making satisfactory progress toward a degree.

    Under the current draft law, a college student can have his induction postponed only until the end of the current semester. A senior can be postponed until the end of the academic year.

    The changes in the new draft law made in 1971 included the provision that membership on the boards was required to be as representative as possible of the racial and national origin of registrants in the area served by the board.

    Before the lottery was implemented in the latter part of the Vietnam conflict, Local Boards called men classified 1-A, 18 1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. This resulted in uncertainty for the potential draftees during the entire time they were within the draft-eligible age group. A draft held today would use a lottery system under which a man would spend only one year in first priority for the draft - either the calendar year he turned 20 or the year his deferment ended. Each year after that, he would be placed in a succeedingly lower priority group and his liability for the draft would lessen accordingly. In this way, he would be spared the uncertainty of waiting until his 26th birthday to be certain he would not be drafted.
    They want children to fight for them.

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    The arguments for and against a draft are fairly complex. You can read about them with a bit of research.

    The thing that surprised me is that the military itself does not favor a draft, despite what the House of Representatives may wish. When people were drafted, the military had to accept a cross section of the country, and the resulting soldiers were, by the military's standards, not of very high quality. I understand that they now much prefer a professional force, where people apply to get in and are paid. This way, the military gets a higher class of soldier, which they need to both operate the more sophisticated weapons and to make better decisions in the "policing" of the world.

    When men are cheap and easily obtained, they are not valued highly. The days when the US government would throw soldiers into battles and lose on the order of ten to a hundred thousand men, per battle, are hopefully behind us. At least, for a while.
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    Honestly, there hasn't been a draft since 1973. That, and the fact that the US military is one of the most strong already makes the draft seem pointless. I'd say it is more likely for nuclear war to happen before a draft.

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