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    Do you consider yourself "outside the norm?" Do you live outside of social norms? Is your lifestyle removed from the typical "American dream" and more "Out there?" Describe your lifestyle and why you choose to lead a different life than most people, and your goals for your lifestyle.
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    What does counter culture mean in this context?

    Im inclined to say that no one really lives the American dream, but rather its an archetype of aspiration to make the machine keep working. But I may be misunderstanding the question.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    I'm NEET. I sit at home all day and jerk off/binge watch Netflix shows/read Camus. I choose to lead this lifestyle because I'm a nihilist, have a low verbal IQ and most of my pants don't fit me. My current goal is to fast for the next 6 months while taking appetite suppressants, so that I can get down to 10-12% bf and start hitting up bars/clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    I'm NEET. I sit at home all day and jerk off/binge watch Netflix shows/read Camus. I choose to lead this lifestyle because I'm a nihilist, have a low verbal IQ and most of my pants don't fit me. My current goal is to fast for the next 6 months while taking appetite suppressants, so that I can get down to 10-12% bf and start hitting up bars/clubs.
    You're fat? I always assumed you were crack head skinny lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pole Ninja View Post
    Do you consider yourself "outside the norm?" Do you live outside of social norms? Is your lifestyle removed from the typical "American dream" and more "Out there?" Describe your lifestyle and why you choose to lead a different life than most people, and your goals for your lifestyle.
    The more of a single type someone appears to be, the more "outside the norm" the person is, because they have large imbalances between their strong and weak functions. "Normal" people are relatively balanced, so the variances in their strengths/weaknesses and valued/unvalued are low enough that it makes it difficult to distinguish a "type."

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    and most of my pants don't fit me.
    well this is the next crisis. Forget the IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    What does counter culture mean in this context?

    Im inclined to say that no one really lives the American dream, but rather its an archetype of aspiration to make the machine keep working. But I may be misunderstanding the question.
    Not to over complicate this in any way, in this context it means basically what it sounds like. For an example, during the '60's the hippies were considered counter culture by the average person. Today's era it might be freegans/ vegans/ straight-edge/ minimalists/ neo-hippies/ bikers/ preppers/conspiracy theorists, or hobby extremists. Or, more mild forms pertaining to personal style: goths/ punks/ retro... etc. Anything that you wouldn't say the "average citizen" is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    I'm NEET. I sit at home all day and jerk off/binge watch Netflix shows/read Camus. I choose to lead this lifestyle because I'm a nihilist, have a low verbal IQ and most of my pants don't fit me. My current goal is to fast for the next 6 months while taking appetite suppressants, so that I can get down to 10-12% bf and start hitting up bars/clubs.


    How about take up a hobby that you enjoy and find nice people to associate with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pole Ninja View Post
    Not to over complicate this in any way, in this context it means basically what it sounds like. For an example, during the '60's the hippies were considered counter culture by the average person. Today's era it might be freegans/ vegans/ straight-edge/ minimalists/ neo-hippies/ bikers/ preppers/conspiracy theorists, or hobby extremists. Or, more mild forms pertaining to personal style: goths/ punks/ retro... etc. Anything that you wouldn't say the "average citizen" is.
    Most of those seem like prevalent cultures in their own right. So like a sizable minority, in that someone could name the group you belong to and say "Fuck those guys/ or man did you see what the Xs did"?

    Personally I don't really identify as anything. In of itself maybe that is counter culture, since in my country identifying to a group is a common cultural phenomena.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If itís a disease, itís nobodyís fault. Yay empiricism.

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    I know a lot of tidbits about a lot of different things, including various subcultures - I think they are interesting. But the currently trendy ones here kinda leave a bad taste in my mouth and are full of people that I think are annoying, pretentious and just overall remind me of the mindset I had in like 8th grade. These are the people who are into: seeing indie shows, septum piercings, doc martens, neon dyed hair, high waisted 90s jeans, cigarettes, and are often third-wave feminists who insist that literally everything is socially constructed. Personally I'd just rather try to be conventionally attractive. I like classic, simple colors in my clothes and prefer to look good but not like I'm trying really hard. Lol I always wear the same thing... but yeah being part of one subculture is something I've never really understood. If I could be one I'd be a Beatnik and they don't exist anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pole Ninja View Post
    Do you consider yourself "outside the norm?" Do you live outside of social norms? Is your lifestyle removed from the typical "American dream" and more "Out there?" Describe your lifestyle and why you choose to lead a different life than most people, and your goals for your lifestyle.
    Yes. The American Dream is about being able to achieve a financially secure life based on one's independent abilities. I'm not ambitious in that regard and would be content to do menial tasks for minimal pay for decades.
    Where I live, people are expected to graduate from high school, get a bachelor's degree, get married, get a career related to their degree, and have a bunch of kids. I'm not interested in a career, my job is unrelated to my degree, I don't intend to upgrade to a bachelor's despite ability, and I have 2-3 fewer kids than most of my former classmates.
    This may seem like laziness. But obviously that's not possible, since I'm LSE.
    The primary difference is the goal of my lifestyle: to be a servant of God. The American Dream has a lot to do with self-elevation. I don't want that.
    Being a servant of God includes trying to live Biblically. That's way outside the norm.
    I also don't have a cell phone or a vehicle, because I don't like them. That's outside the norm, and so is dressing like an elementary-schooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Yes. The American Dream is about being able to achieve a financially secure life based on one's independent abilities. I'm not ambitious in that regard and would be content to do menial tasks for minimal pay for decades.
    Where I live, people are expected to graduate from high school, get a bachelor's degree, get married, get a career related to their degree, and have a bunch of kids. I'm not interested in a career, my job is unrelated to my degree, I don't intend to upgrade to a bachelor's despite ability, and I have 2-3 fewer kids than most of my former classmates.
    This may seem like laziness. But obviously that's not possible, since I'm LSE.
    The primary difference is the goal of my lifestyle: to be a servant of God. The American Dream has a lot to do with self-elevation. I don't want that.
    Being a servant of God includes trying to live Biblically. That's way outside the norm.
    I also don't have a cell phone or a vehicle, because I don't like them. That's outside the norm, and so is dressing like an elementary-schooler.
    That sounds like a hassle to go grocery shopping lol.

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