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    Okay, I'm trying this again, because on my first one I didn't receive very consistent or many results... so I'm trying it this time with a shorter one.

    HERE is my photo album for VI type, but note, these are only "selfies" that I've used for FB profile pictures.

    Video is here

    ALSO, for those who are familiar with Enneagram, my Tritype is 4w3, 6w7, 9w1 sx/sp


    Block I

    1. What is work in your opinion? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters where you can distinguish whether you can do this work or not?


    Work is what everyone has to do to make money. Work is just stuff that has to be done. As for the parameters, I just look to see if people are qualified for the job. However, I believe anyone can do some things so long as they're willing to learn.


    2. How do people determine the quality of work? How do you determine such quality? How well you can determine the quality of any purchase, do you pay any attention to it?


    Is it done as instructed? Does it hold up/work properly? I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who do half-ass work. As for the quality of a purchase, same thing. Does it do as instructed? Is it durable? I always pay attention to quality when purchasing,


    3. There is a professional right next to you. You always see that you can't perform the way they do. Your feelings, thoughts and actions?

    Very envious (thanks a lot, Enneagram 4) I feel a sense of competition. I want to be good at things too and I become determined to be better. I want to be special!

    4. If you struggle to do something, what can you say about such a task? Tell us your next steps and give examples. Compare with actions of others in a similar situation.

    Blame myself. I'm obviously not doing it right and I'm incompetent. I try to improvise and do it to the best of my ability and most of the time, it works out. I might also ask someone for help, but I hate doing that. Others in my situation don't seem to be as self-blaming.

    5. You need to build a pyramid exactly like in Egypt. Your thoughts, feelings and actions?

    .... why would I want to do that?

    Block II

    1. General to specific, specific to general – what does it mean? Give examples.

    General is broad without details. it's just enough information to get the "gist" on how to do something or a story being told. For example, how to do something or put something together might be generalized by giving broad instructions.
    Specific is details on how to do something or a story being told, in other words, it's descriptive. Instructions are very step-by-step and a story might include a lot of visual detail or something.

    2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view? Is it is easy for you to be logical?

    Logic is... the smartest way to do something. It's common sense. It's always impersonal evaluation of data like puzzle solving or mathematics.
    As for whether it correlates with the common view, I would think so, but everyone seems to have a different definition of logic.
    And nah, it's not too easy for me to be logical.

    3. What is hierarchy? Give examples of hierarchies. Do you need to follow it? Why or why not? Give example of hierarchy of systems, what is it?

    A leader and subordinates. Like in a business, or a country with a king/queen. I would only follow a hierarchy if I respected them. If not, then absolutely not.
    Give an example of hierarchal systems? Nah... that sounds strenous.

    4. Choose one of the following tasks and give a detailed answer. Explain your choice.
    - Analyze famous phrase of Socrates: “I know that I know nothing”. Is it logical?

    Absolutely. What do we really know as human beings? I'd say most things we do not know for certain and to tell someone that you know something for certain is a bit foolish. There's a saying, "the more a man thinks he knows, the more stupid he is."

    5. Do you frequently feel the need to structure information? For what purpose? How do people usually do it? How do you do it?

    Uuuhhh.... sometimes I arrange my grocery list to cooperate with the order of the aisles in the grocery store. Is that what you're talking about? LOL.

    Block III

    1. Can you press people? What methods do you use? If so, how does it happen?

    Nah, I'm not the best at it? Depends on what you mean, though. If I press someone, it's physically I think. As in, I may yell, or threaten, because I'm not the best with words.

    2. Are there strategies of attack? Can you use them? When is it justified? Do you think it's ok to occupy someone else's territory? In what situations?

    Physical force is the best example I know of. I am quite confident in my ability to defend myself. I'm not afraid of physical confrontation at all. It's justified when someone threatens you in some way or when force is just... necessary. Occupy someone else's territory? Hm. It's usually against my values to intrude on someone's property in mose situations, but then again, I can be oppurtunistic if they are not handling their own territory properly.

    3. How do you protect yourself and your interests?

    Stay firm, determined, and show I'm a force to be reckoned with if you choose to pick a battle with me. I like to keep myself sharp in many ways. Also, physically, like I said I am NOT afraid to fight and be forceful if I must, but less through actual words.

    4. Describe your behavior in the situations of opposition and if you have to use some force?

    I use it. I don't back down. I'm not afraid of a challenge if it arises itself.

    5. Do others think of you as a strong person? Do you think you are a strong person?

    Yes, they do. I get frequently told that I am admired for my strength. I do think I am quite strong, physically and mentally though I do have my break downs from time to time. No one can make me do anything I don't want to do. I've always prided myself on my strength.

    Block IV

    1. What is beauty? Do you change your opinion about beauty? Does your understanding correlate with the generally accepted notion? What goes beyond the generally accepted notion?

    Beauty is nature. It's the ultimate form of art, it's where art has come from. I'm quite a beauty-seeker personally. My opinion on beauty doesn't really change. I can find beauty in many places (once again, Enneagram 4!)
    I think the world seems to associate beauty with sexual attraction. Sure, that might be one form, but cetainly not all. I don't really know what's "beyond the generally excepted notion." I don't much care.

    2. Is there a template of understanding what beautiful means for everyone to use? Is there such a term as "classic beauty"? If so, what is it?

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Classic beauty, by what I think most people would assume, probably like Marilyn Monroe or a fairytale princess.

    3. How do you create your comfort and coziness? How do others evaluate your skill in doing so? Do you agree with them?

    I just fill the room or whatever with what I think is beautiful. I also like doing things like drinking hot chocolate and snuggling with my pets or something. I haven't really gotten much feedback from others as far as this goes. Most people seem to think positively of my style.

    4. How do you pick your own clothes? Do you follow fashion? Why? Do you know how to select clothes for different types of figures?

    I love picking clothing. I just choose whatever I think is my style and is appealing to me. As for following fashion? Eh, some. I only follow it if I like it already. Yes, I think I'm pretty good at picking clothing for people.

    5. Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself or trust someone else to do it? Why?

    I have my own style. I love unique things. I'm into Gothic aesthetics. I do it myself because... I like what I like! I might ask for a simple opinion, but I certainly would want to be my own thing.

    Block V

    1. Is it acceptable to express emotions in public? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

    I don't express mine, that's for sure. Even though I have very powerful emotions, I keep them inside. I hate crying or showing visible anger in public. Inappropriate I think would be raising your voice or just causing
    an absolute scene somehow.

    2. Think of such negative emotional states as sadness, gloom, and despondence.

    - Can you, at your own will, enter these states? If not, then when do you feel them?

    Nope. I'm pretty prone to melancholy, but usually not at my own consent.

    - How long can you stay in such states?

    Uhhhhh.... depends?

    - How can you withdraw from them?

    I can't. They are just there. I can't get rid of them on my own.

    - Can they be pleasant, soothing?

    Nope.

    - How do you feel after you have experienced them?

    I don't know. I guess I just kind of... move past them?

    3. How quickly can you change emotional state? To what side – positive or negative?

    Pretty quickly, and usually negatively.

    4. What emotional state is usual for you? Does your internal emotional state correlate with what you show externally?

    My emotions are pretty intense. (Once again, I'm a Sx Enneagam 4)
    I'm usually pretty melancholic. But it doesn't really show on the outside too much.=

    5. Tell us about your moods over the last day

    Depressed and frustrated. I've been going through some stuff, one of them bein a surgery that has kept me from doing what I want. I just want to get out and do things! It's driving me nuts.

    Block VI

    1. Tell us how did you build relationships with others over the last day.

    I sit with my mother every morning at breakfast and talk to her. I text my friends and joke with them. Honestly, I should do even more, my relationships with my family and friends mean everything to me.
    However, a lot of my relationships are pretty "silent", as in, we don't need to shower each other in words of affirmation to know our bonds.

    2. What is sympathy? When do you need to express it? When is it advised not to? How do you express it?

    Sympathy is expressing concern and affirmation for someone even though you aren't going through it. When to express it? I don't know beyond an "Oh, I'm sorry," or a hug when someone wants one. I don't express sympathy too often, honestly, unless someone is coming to me for comfort. But, I seperate comforting and being sympathetic.

    3. Are there any standards of behavior or interpersonal relationships in the society? If so, do you adhere to them? Do people always have to maintain them? Why?

    I suppose? I mean surely you wouldn't talk to your teacher in the same way you would a friend in a casual setting. I think there are exceptions sometimes, though. I only adhere to them if I have some respect for
    the person. As for maintaing them, I think people just need to do what feels right in their hearts to them, not becuase society tells you that you have to treat a person a certain way because of status.

    4. What does moral mean? What is immoral? How do you understand these terms and does your understanding correlate with the others? How can you evaluate the correctness of your own understanding?
    Moral is right, immoral is wrong. Moral is being a good person, doing the right thing that you know to be right in your own heart. Immoral is causing pain for personal gain. I don't really care if my understanding correlates with others or not, so I can't answer this. I can't really evaluate my own correctness... it just feels right to me. I guess considering the consequences of my actions.

    5. Somebody is giving you a negative attitude – what is your reaction? Could you show your own negative attitude toward someone else? If so, how? Could you feel ill-disposed towards somebody for a long time?

    How easily do you forgive people?
    I just try to be rational and calm around them. No need to feed the fire. Asfor my own negative attitude, it depends. Unless it's something really bad, I just keep it to myself. However, yes, I can feel ill towards a person for a very long time. I do not forgive people easily at all once they've wronged me.

    Block VII

    1. Is there a meaning of life? In what? Is it the same for everybody?

    Yes, I do believe in a meaning for life. In what? I don't know. It's not the same for everyone! People must follow their own path.

    2. When you meet a stranger, what can you say about them right away? How do you know what this person is all about? Does it take long to understand someone's traits?

    I can tell what kind of person I'm dealing with pretty quickly. The way they talk, their mannerisms, etc. It doesn't take me very long to understand someone's traits.

    3. What is imagination? Do all people have imagination and can fantasize? What is your fantasizing like?

    As an Enneagram 4, I know all about imagination and fantasizing. Imagination is thinking of something that probably won't happen. You take yourself to distant worlds, think of the impossible. All people have imagination and can fantasize, I believe. My fantasizing is a lot about love and adventure.

    4. What do you think of people (or yourself) who distinctively stand out in a crowd, differ from others? What is a measure of such distinction, how can this difference be feasible and how not?

    I love people who stand out and I strive to stand out myself. I definitely admire people who aren't afraid to be themselves! As for the last two questions, I'm not sure I understand...?

    5. Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good. What's your attitude towards this statement?

    Uhhhh... of course ideas have to have some correctness before they're considered good ideas. I mean, what's an idea if you can't actually do anything with it? Silly question.

    Block VIII

    2. What is time? How do you feel time? Can you waste time?

    Time is... I don't know, I believe it's change. I think it is something man has created to help better understand that, change. I can't really explain how you "feel" time other than your body aging and noticing the
    changes around you. You can certainly waste time, I think, by inaction.

    3. Do you need help creating forecasts and determining how something will end? Do you trust those forecasts?
    Mmmm... no, not really. I am pretty confident in how I think things will end. I trust them, usually. Most of the time I'm correct, but I've been wrong a few times of course.

    4. Are you normally late? How do you react if someone is late?
    I HATE being late. I'm hardly ever late. If someone is late, I'm very annoyed, even a bit anxious.

    5. Imagine the situation where you agreed to meet with someone. Your feelings and actions:

    a) 20 minutes before the meeting starts,
    Pretty chill, enthusiastic for them to get here! I'm certainly not patient Maybe they'll get here a bit early?

    b) 5 minutes before the meeting starts,
    Anxious, where are they? They should be here any moment, right?


    c) it is time for the meeting to start, but the person is not here
    Annoyed, but I'll give them the benefit of doubt, maybe they got caught by a train or something? Or, ya know, maybe they're just irresponsible...

    d) 20 minutes after the meeting start time and the person is not here,
    Be very irritated, angry even, but I won't show it. I'll call them, text them, something and see what's up.

    e) more time and the person is still not here…
    Screw it. I'm leaving. Assholes! They better not come up with excuses...

    And that's that! Thanks
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    ESI sounds great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    ESI sounds great
    One vote for ESI then?

    Anyone else?

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    inb4 Sol links us to his post in the VI thread no one cares about

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    I'm sorry, I don't tend to find these questionnaires as especially useful for determining a person's type (it is too easy for great importance to be placed on a value because a person has said they consider themselves "strong" or "weak" at it, for example: often, people claim to be weak at a value they are perhaps in reality are very good at): I've seen also a number of occasions where forum members have typed new members as opposite types to other suggestions, or what the person later decides.

    I think IEI is as good a guess as any, based somewhat on the enneagram tritype you have assigned for yourself. I would consider it far more productive (and quicker) for you to take some Socionics tests: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ocionics-Tests
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    I added the video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturne View Post
    I added the video!
    IP temperament. I also was into martial arts and riding horses. You are very relatable. It might be E4 sx/sp that I relate to most. I could see you as ILI or IEI but you have a softness that I don't see in ILI and I don't know any ILI 4s. I mentioned before you VI similar to @SisOfNight.

    "if I like it who cares if..." <--

    The video was very helpful in your case as I was inclined to agree with ESI until I watched it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturne View Post
    One vote for ESI then?

    Anyone else?
    Another vote here. I've explained why before... in the other thread.
    (And I've had a look at the video.)

    Honestly, I find it a bit frustrating to see so many ESI E4s being mistyped as IEI.
    So, I will take this typing to the grave, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    Another vote here. I've explained why before... in the other thread.
    (And I've had a look at the video.)

    Honestly, I find it a bit frustrating to see so many ESI E4s being mistyped as IEI.
    So, I will take this typing to the grave, haha.
    Life is too short to get frustrated over mistyping. Until there is a way to map the cognitive functions through something like MRI it is not going to be a science. I am not sure if it ever will be since it is kind of a fringe theory to start with. Ultimately she will have to decide for herself. The one thing that still has me thinking she could be ESI is that she doesn't have that "knowing" like other IEI tell me they have. Many of the self typed IEI here have changed types and moved on it seems. The ones still around I either do not know well enough or I agree with their type. I think she might have ever been typed Logical in her first thread.

    @Nocturne I am going with a wait and see attitude for now. I think taking some of the quizzes can be helpful and Subt already linked you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    Another vote here. I've explained why before... in the other thread.
    (And I've had a look at the video.)

    Honestly, I find it a bit frustrating to see so many ESI E4s being mistyped as IEI.
    So, I will take this typing to the grave, haha.
    To be honest, I'm here because over at PersonalityCafe I was typed ESE, which I strongly disagreed with. Caused quite the conflict. If I got ESE here, then I would be certain that perhaps I really am ESE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturne View Post
    To be honest, I'm here because over at PersonalityCafe I was typed ESE, which I strongly disagreed with. Caused quite the conflict. If I got ESE here, then I would be certain that perhaps I really am ESE.
    PersonalityCafe is full of morons lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    PersonalityCafe is full of morons lol.
    That's what all communities say about eachother haha

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