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    Jean-Luc Godard (start at 3:00)



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    Reunites with his INFp ex who was still in love with him, handles it smugly and seems apathetic when she bursts into tears in front of him (start at 4:50):

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    Morrissey



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    Ayn Rand

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    Donald Trump


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    Subtypes:

    Godard: Mainly Cerebral with some Somatic tendencies
    Morrissey: Mainly Cerebral with some Somatic tendencies
    Fassbinder: Somatic
    Rand: Cerebral
    Trump: Somatic

    Description of the subtypes:

    http://samvak.tripod.com/journal21.html

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    Some of the most obvious NPD celebrities in the media are Donald Trump and Kanye West.
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    Cody Wilson (Cerebral with some Somatic traits)

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    how do you know, suede?

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    Well, I'm bulshitting mostly. A certain smug reticence, solipsistic conversational patterns and mannerisms, persistent patterns of unabashed self-obsession, sadism and selfishness throughout their lives, etc.
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    Cody Wilson (Cerebral with some Somatic traits)


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    I thought this thread was going to be about police informants. This guy will do for both types of "narcs". He narced on the mob, then, because he is such a narc he couldn't stay hidden in the witness protection program.





    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Gravano

    I think Sammy was the beginning of the end of the American Mafia. Now they want to be reality stars.

    However, in 1995 Gravano left Witness Protection and relocated to Scottsdale, Arizona. A Federal prosecutor later said that Gravano did not like the constraints of the program.[13] Gravano began living very openly, giving interviews to magazines and appearing in a nationally televised interview with television journalist Diane Sawyer. He appeared on live TV after having had plastic surgery to hide his appearance from the mob. In one interview with author/journalist Howard Blum, Gravano boasted:

    "They send a hit team down, I'll kill them. They better not miss, because even if they get me, there will still be a lot of body bags going back to New York. I'm not afraid. I don't have it in me. I'm too detached maybe. If it happens, fuck it. A bullet in the head is pretty quick. You go like that! It's better than cancer. I'm not meeting you in Montana on some fuckin' farm. I'm not sitting here like some jerk-off with a phony beard. I'll tell you something else: I'm a fuckin' pro. If someone comes to my house, I got a few little surprises for them. Even if they win, there might be surprises."
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    I wonder if Decisive types are more likely to display narcissistic traits. It's only a small sample, but so far:

    Godard: Se-ESI>ILI
    Morrissey: Ni-EIE
    Fassbinder: Ni-EIE
    Ayn Rand: Beta ST
    Trump: Ti-SLE
    Cody Wilson: Ni-LIE
    Sammy Gravano: VI's Beta

    Others that I've consider posting but opted not to because I didn't find them interesting:

    Kanye West: Fi-SEE
    Justin Bieber: SEI
    Lil Wayne: Ti-SLE
    Rick Ross: SLE
    Kim Kardashian: EIE or alpha SF

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    Extroverted types are more likely to be overt while introverts are covert.


    Mel Gibson, LSE.



    I'm not sure if he's NPD or BPD or just has really bad anger issues tbh (though it sounds like it could be both from these recordings. He's coming from a place of inner pain), but this is an example of what abusive cluster b "rage" usually looks like.

    His ex (who is most likely IEI) probably has covert narsissist traits. First off, she is a clear gold digger and opportunist (Mel was even married when she got with him) plus the fact that she had the ability to even put these recordings out to the public to ruin his reputation and profit from it, then lie about doing so honestly says a lot about her lack of empathy. It doesn't excuse the fact that Mel was clearly abusive towards her, but it is still a low blow to the father of your child. Then again, maybe she felt the need to record him to show the courts that Mel is a dangerous man and should not win custody of her child, then they got leaked by someone who got ahold of them... who knows.

    The covert narcissist is the ‘shy’ narcissist, but no less dangerous and painful to become involved with. The covert narcissistic personality like the overt narcissistic personality has deep feelings of unworthiness and shame. The covert narcissist however lacks the manufactured confidence to present a grandiose false self to the world, so retreats to his inner world to live out his or her pathological fantasies.

    The covert narcissist is obviously depressed and often withdrawn, and projects these feelings on to close intimates in withholding and passive aggressive ways. The covert narcissist like the overt narcissist can explode, but it takes more provocation. The covert narcissistic personality, like the over narcissist also lacks a conscience and will project his or her damaged inner self on to others by lying, manipulating, withholding or abandoning –using whatever tactic gets a reaction and hurts those closest to him or her.

    The covert narcissistic personality is often anxious, pessimistic, unmotivated, and blames his or her past for insecurities and inadequacies. He or she may be great drain on a partner by being parasitical in using money, resources and energy that he or she is not self-producing.

    Just like the overt, the covert narcissistic personality type is highly exploitative and believes he or she is entitled to take, but has very little interest in contributing unless there is an ulterior motive attached.

    Here are some clear examples of overt narcissism from Kanye West.




    Overt narcissism is the most obvious of narcissistic personality disorders. The overt narcissistic personality is arrogant, boastful and demanding. This narcissistic personality is often an exhibitionist, and can be offended if not fed energy and attention, or as a result of receiving criticism or slights real or imagined. The overt narcissist has rage very close to the surface and can when not getting his or her way.

    Overt narcissistic personality disorder manifests as grandiose behaviour, the demanding of specialised treatment, having to be known as the most valuable player, the most successfulof a particularfield,the most intelligent or the most aesthetically attractive. This narcissistic personality needs to be recognised for his or her special abilities and uniqueness,believing he or she is superior to others.

    The overt narcissistic personality is highly exploitative and ruthless in the quest for power and control. This individual has the potential to be a public figure and secure power, money and material desires, but always at the expense of others. Many an overt narcissistic personality may not secure success, and will concoct credentials and achievements in order to gain recognition that has never been earned.
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    Lol, yeah. My highschool crush was dating a Ti-ILE overt Narc, and he apparently went on an uncharacteristic rant about 'n-ggers' when she broke up with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    Lol, yeah. My highschool crush was dating a Ti-ILE overt Narc, and he apparently went on an uncharacteristic rant about 'n-ggers' when she broke up with him.
    Yeah... they pretty much go psycho in the most arrogant ways possible when they lose control of their narcissistic suply.

    Mel Gibson has been known to attack Jews, blacks, homosexuals, women... pretty much eveyone who's not white and male when he's having his fits of rage. It shows that he clearly sees himself as superior over most things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Extroverted types are more likely to be overt while introverts are covert.

    Mel Gibson, LSE.



    I'm not sure if he's NPD or BPD or just has really bad anger issues tbh (though it sounds like it could be both from these recordings. He's coming from a place of inner pain), but this is an example of what abusive cluster b "rage" usually looks like.

    His ex (who is most likely IEI) probably has covert narsissist traits. First off, she is a clear gold digger and opportunist (Mel was even married when she got with him) plus the fact that she had the ability to even put these recordings out to the public to ruin his reputation and profit from it, then lie about doing so honestly says a lot about her lack of empathy. It doesn't excuse the fact that Mel was clearly abusive towards her, but it is still a low blow to the father of your child. Then again, maybe she felt the need to record him to show the courts that Mel is a dangerous man and should not win custody of her child, then they got leaked by someone who got ahold of them... who knows.

    Here are some clear examples of overt narcissism from Kanye West.

    Fairly positive that Mel Gibson has anger management issues. That said, pride and anger always go hand in hand, and sorrow and humility go hand in hand.

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