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    Default Rank the Quadras in terms of humility

    1) Delta
    2) Alpha
    3) Gamma
    4) Beta

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    Im clearly the humblest.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

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    Beta
    Gamma
    Alpha
    Delta

    Overtly comes across as the opposite

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    from most humble to least humble:

    (1. Beta
    (2. Alpha
    (3. Gamma
    (4. Delta

    Fe is humble, Fi isn't really humble at all. Fi is very pretentious and braggy It is mostly a Fe/Fi thing.

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    I think the correlation is bigger if you would measure it on a scale of introversion/extraversion. Not so much at quadra.

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    When I try to picture a quintessential 'Empath'/Anti-Narc, it's typically some milquetoast Si-ego: grounded, unpretentious, lighthearted, chummy with coworkers, dresses plainly, smiles openly, aspires to have a pleasant family life, etc.
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    Looks like this probably:





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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    When I try to picture a quintessential 'Empath'/Anti-Narc, it's typically some milquetoast Si-ego: grounded, unpretentious, lighthearted, chummy with coworkers, dresses plainly, smiles openly, aspires to have a pleasant family life, etc.
    I can see this for the most part.

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    I have been described as humble actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    When I try to picture a quintessential 'Empath'/Anti-Narc, it's typically some milquetoast Si-ego: grounded, unpretentious, lighthearted, chummy with coworkers, dresses plainly, smiles openly, aspires to have a pleasant family life, etc.
    Mostly me minus the chummy part
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    Perception of qualities differ on individual basis. I think quadras do not give the best metrics on this matter.

    I can say that I do not have so humble qualities but it is not at all that encompassing. Ego block generally is not so humble place at all but dual super Id block does not care it that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Im clearly the humblest.
    You get the prize for proclaiming your own humbleness and managing to come off humble in the process.

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    Sin is NTR.
    Pride is the original sin. Pride is NTR.
    What one is likely to be prideful about is type-related. We could have a thread on that, but it wouldn't be divided by quadra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Sin is NTR.
    Pride is the original sin. Pride is NTR.
    What one is likely to be prideful about is type-related. We could have a thread on that, but it wouldn't be divided by quadra.
    This is probably very true.
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    1. Gamma
    2. Alpha
    3. Delta
    4. Beta

    Delta is third because Delta STs and INFjs are pretentious SOBs. ENFps are humbler than anyone but an INFp. ENTp 3s and ESFj 3s are a no-zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    1. Gamma
    2. Alpha
    3. Delta
    4. Beta

    Delta is third because Delta STs and INFjs are pretentious SOBs. ENFps are humbler than anyone but an INFp. ENTp 3s and ESFj 3s are a no-zone.
    Infj are seen as "self-righteous" by those LESS so inclined in white ethics and judging functions. That doesn't mean that we are not humble. In fact EII more than any type would like peace, love, harmony, forgiveness, and a world of better place. And, most EII are low key about their values. As far as appearance of humbleness, due to their energetic nature EIE and IEE can appear more so but the true humanists of the lot are the NF types.

    Every type makes jobs and creates environments where good things can happen. Who is to say if they don't appear as humble that they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Infj are seen as "self-righteous" by those LESS so inclined in white ethics and judging functions. That doesn't mean that we are not humble. In fact EII more than any type would like peace, love, harmony, forgiveness, and a world of better place. And, most EII are low key about their values. As far as appearance of humbleness, due to their energetic nature EIE and IEE can appear more so but the true humanists of the lot are the NF types.

    Every type makes jobs and creates environments where good things can happen. Who is to say if they don't appear as humble that they are not.
    INFjs are great people, there's just something about their presence that pisses me off [sometimes]. It might be a supervision thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    INFjs are great people, there's just something about their presence that pisses me off [sometimes]. It might be a supervision thing.
    I don't hate SEE. Most of the time our values are misaligned and they talk to me all the time about their disappointments in their relations with people. I get down too when bad things happen to me and I too seek support and empathy from SEE friends. We just don't have similar energy. When they are enamored with me they want to do all sorts of things with me where my energy does not allow. I often want to stay home and relax. Take my SEE sister in law. Today I took her to an hour massage because she's so overworked and overwhelmed and stressed. After the massage she had a huge surge of energy and kept talking and talking and talking about people at work, her other relations that she cut out her life for whatever reason, and troubles with my brother's behavior. She's so sensitive and so much gets to her. I took her to lunch and for a few minutes that she could savor her food was when she didn't talk about stuff that was bothering her. By the time I took her home I had zero energy. Negative zero and now I'm hibernating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    INFjs are great people, there's just something about their presence that pisses me off [sometimes]. It might be a supervision thing.
    You haven't asked the important questions as to gain further insight. Why would I take my sister in law out?


    This gives me a chance to talk to her one on one, behind the scenes. To ease her emotions and give her a positive perspective. To find solutions and present them to her as to allow her to think about them therefore potentially causing her to relax on some things. I told her that my brother does have flaws, he's not perfect and they have differences but grass isn't always greener and there's a potential that she could get another type of crazy, as she calls men. She agreed that though my brother is a picky eater and won't take her out to inventive places she can do that with girlfriends and she can handle my brother's crazy. She said she can't handle her ex's.

    Ultimately, I care a lot about her and I want her to be happy. I want to have a good relationship with her.

    I listen to her issues and give her possible solutions or things to think about as opposed to expressing constant negative disappointment. I decided to treat her on this girl date because for the last few weekends that I had seen her she did not look happy. She expressed sad and upset emotions. I scheduled a time for myself and planned and prepared to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Im clearly the humblest.
    No, me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Sin is NTR.Pride is the original sin. Pride is NTR.What one is likely to be prideful about is type-related. We could have a thread on that, but it wouldn't be divided by quadra.
    So the humblest would be the typeless.

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    1. gamma
    2. alpha
    3. delta
    4. beta


    with the exception of ENFps for delta, who are unusually humble for aristocrats, and ENTjs for gamma, who are unusually arrogant for democrats
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    What if you're proud of your humility? Is that even possible?
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