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    Can an INFp's heart be won with expensive gifts?

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    I don't think that they're as shallow as that, at least I'd like to think that.

    I don't think that expensive gifts work on my sister at anyy rate.
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    I doubt it. Romance would work better. Candle-lit dinner and such.
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    @Oyburger

    Would you fall for someone that was full of optimism and that would look after your health?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
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    Would you fall for someone that was full of optimism and that would look after your health?
    As opposed to optimism I would look for confidence and I do not like someone breathing down my neck about my health, that's what my mother is for .
    My husband looks after my health but it gets annoying because I don't like to be told what to do, but it has its upsides too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    Can an INFp's heart be won with expensive gifts?
    Yes, definitely. And while we're at it, INFps relish the thought of being raped. Victimization makes us hawt.

    On second thought...
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    Can an INFp's heart be won with expensive gifts?
    Why don't you get off the computer, meet some actual people, and fucking find out for yourself?
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    Depends on the motives.


    Motives are everything to me.

    If you buy me something expensive just because you want in my pants or want some sort of fake affection, then fuck you.

    If you buy me something expensive because you just don't know how to express how much you love me or awesome you think I am, aww.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    Why don't you get off the computer, meet some actual people, and fucking find out for yourself?
    Tell me your home address so I can meet you and give you an expensive gift. Make sure you give me the money before hand so I can buy you an expensive gift.

    How do you feel about me buying you 10 lots of top of the range Pampers?

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    @ Aurora
    What is meant by wanting fake affection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    Can an INFp's heart be won with expensive gifts?
    Actually, the opposite would happen. I don't now if this is true for other INFp-s, but for me most of the time I'm like a mirror. If you start treating me like an object you'll get it right back at you. Buy me gifts, try to somehow manipulate me into doing what you want from me and you'll just get a counter reaction from me and in the end you will end up manipulated and used, not me. Every part of your personality you give you get right back at you.
    So buying gifts means nothing and everything depending on how much heart and soul went into it cause that is the only thing I will see. Like aurora mentioned, it doesn't matter if you bought a piece of shit of a present because you don't know how to buy good presents.

    I have a feeling you have a big misunderstanding on what it means to be INFp. We look with our Fe, we think with out Ni.

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    IFps all love emotional distress. It's the irrational way.

    If you are emotionally distressful to them, with a sliver of sexuality, you'll be fine. ((this is because they don't have the gumption to outrightly say "my god, you're irrational!", but instead would get more joy from struggling to put up with your faults. If there is physical attraction, it can lead to emotional attraction, and emotional attraction can subordinate rationality or logis to an extreme)). If you are too nice to them, you'll be disregarded. They don't need to help you. They need to help the people who would hurt them, or who are similarly irrational. That way, they can have an emotional, irrational life that they so desire.

    If you want to win an I-Fp, then wait for them to become slightly attached to a J type, especially of the careful or infantile attitude. But then step in by quickly having a deep emotional experience (such as sex), and then get them in emotional drama, and get them confused about who they love more. Or, maybe as it appears to them, who 'loves them' more, you or the other guy. If you victimize I-Fp enough, and treat them poorly enough, but still show some consistency in your affection or desire for them (PARTICULARLY if you leave them for a whlie and then come back to the I-Fp), then you can win their heart.


    I know that sounds mean, but that's from my standpoint. I've seen it happen numerous times, and that's how it works.



    Having a drug or other major problem also seems to be a sort of turn on to I-Fps. Where as ISfps (careful erotic attitude) love to give sympathy, INFp (victim) probably just enjoy constant victimization. Both can be rationalize by putting up with emotional distress via their love for the person who causes them this distress.

    Again, a very negative standpoint, but perhaps points to some of the truth.
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    My INFp father likes to try to win peoples hearts by buying them gifts...
    example: he feels bad for me and my sister; he gives us 50 bucks each.
    His girl friend gets mad at him; he buys her some expensive shit...

    I donít really bother with the gift thing, though I will offer to pay for a friend if I feel they really need it (I know they would do the same).

    People have actually tried to win my heart by buying me gifts (roses, stuffed animals, CDís ect...) and no it doesnít usually work. all it really does is make me feel bad. I actually prefer people not to waste their money on me.

    I do however find sentimental gifts to be really touching. For example, when I was in the 2nd grade I was probably one of the most determined kids in my class. My teacher always appreciated the effort I put fourth. One day she gave me these beautiful magnolias that grew in a tree she owned. She said, ďI thought you would really like these magnolia flowers, they reminded me of you.Ē I was extremely touched that my teacher thought of me! The flowers were beautiful, and I did appreciate the gesture very much.

    Another example... It was my freshmen year of high school, and I had a huge crush on this guy in one of my classes (I was usually too shy to talk to him). One day I was at the mall with my friend, we had to split up (for some reason) so I was off on my own... all the sudden he just randomly jumps up on me and surprised me! (Of course I was like... omg ) we talked for a little while, and then parted ways. I met back up with my friend, and he just randomly shows up again and says ďI thought you would like this.Ē he handed me this necklace. I was like "aww..."
    I donít know... maybe I just appreciated it because I had a really big crush on him to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    Can an INFp's heart be won with expensive gifts?
    I hope not, lol. That would be the absolute last way that I`d try to win someone over.
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    Herzy, so what would you do?

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    Most likely attract them with her sexy ESTp-ness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    Most likely attract them with her sexy ESTp-ness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    Most likely attract them with her sexy ESTp-ness
    What does that involve?

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    INFpís are just generally attracted to the ESTpís outgoing confident personality. Thereís just something about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    Most likely attract them with her sexy ESTp-ness
    What does that involve?
    Not being INTj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
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    What is meant by wanting fake affection?

    They feel lonely/rejected so they need some sort of affection to make themselves feel better, and they trick you into giving it to them. In other words, it's like being used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBean
    UDP LXIX, Where the fuck do you come up with this shit? You make it seem as though IXFp's have serious emotional and psychological problems. You have a really warped perspective on people of this type. You already have this preconceived notion as to how these people "act" that anyone that acts out in that manner you automatically type them as IXFp's. That's a proplem with many people on this board, and oddly enough is why I always come back and read what people have to say here. For some reason I get a kick out of what a lot of people say here. I have issues. I'm so irrational.

    Quote Originally Posted by UDP II
    IFps all love emotional distress. It's the irrational way.
    Who loves emotional distress? Seriously, who loves being treated like shit?

    If you are emotionally distressful to them, with a sliver of sexuality, you'll be fine. ((this is because they don't have the gumption to outrightly say "my god, you're irrational!", but instead would get more joy from struggling to put up with your faults.
    Like zomg you're like totally so irrational? When I'm a dick, which I am constantly, the first person to put me on check is my INFp wife. She's like, "zomg god you're totally so fucking irrational. Like calm the fuck down." (It seems my wife talks like a 12 year old girl) But honestly, when I'm a dick my wife lets me know I'm a dick. She has absolutely no problem letting me know that i'm being "irrational." She also has absolutely no problem calling people out on their bullshit. She usually tries to avoid it, because she dislikes conflict, but when push comes to shove she doesn't back down. She doesn't get some sort of orgasmic joy when some one treats her like shit. She feels terrible. She really dislikes it. Do you fucking get it.

    If there is physical attraction, it can lead to emotional attraction, and emotional attraction can subordinate rationality or logis to an extreme)). If you are too nice to them, you'll be disregarded. They don't need to help you. They need to help the people who would hurt them, or who are similarly irrational. That way, they can have an emotional, irrational life that they so desire.
    Ok Dr. Phil. Every IXFp thanks you for enlightening the IXFp. Now they can enter the real world and find healthy, meaningful and spiritual relationships. On behalf of the IXFp's, they thank you for your knowledge and wisdom that you have blessed them with on this fine day.
    On the other hand. Every person who wants to attract an IXFp thanks you for the wisdom you've imparted.

    Why would anyone, rational or not, need to help only those that hurt them. That's a truly unhealthy behavior, AND IT IS NOT TYPE RELATED. So stop lumping behavior you don't like into these boxes called Beta, IXFp's, and irrationals.

    But then step in by quickly having a deep emotional experience (such as sex), and then get them in emotional drama, and get them confused about who they love more. Or, maybe as it appears to them, who 'loves them' more, you or the other guy.
    Yeah I get this. I understand this. It seems as though IXFp's have no mind of their own. They don't know what they like and dislike. So the "predator" has to make up their mind for them. You know, they have absolutely no idea what their feelings mean. Those pathetic IXFp's. So gullible. So naive. So easily corrupted and confused. Yes these little, lesser humans.

    Do you feel superior writing shit like this? Does this make your existence much more delightful? Knowing that you're so much more better than these people? Is it, like orgasmic?



    If you victimize I-Fp enough, and treat them poorly enough, but still show some consistency in your affection or desire for them (PARTICULARLY if you leave them for a whlie and then come back to the I-Fp), then you can win their heart.
    Where do you come up with this shit?

    I know that sounds mean, but that's from my standpoint. I've seen it happen numerous times, and that's how it works.
    This is not mean. This is absurd and pathetic.

    Having a drug or other major problem also seems to be a sort of turn on to I-Fps. Where as ISfps (careful erotic attitude) love to give sympathy, INFp (victim) probably just enjoy constant victimization. Both can be rationalize by putting up with emotional distress via their love for the person who causes them this distress.

    Again, a very negative standpoint, but perhaps points to some of the truth.
    Again where the fuck do you come up with this shit?

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    I like it when supervisors try to supervise me.

    It's loosing it's effect completely now.


    Don't worry, I just made you look really good infront of your dual. You can thank me later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP II
    I like it when supervisors try to supervise me.

    It's loosing it's effect completely now.


    Don't worry, I just made you look really good infront of your dual. You can thank me later.


    EDIT:

    PS: , see, instant pay offs

    I like you UDP, but you're points did annoy me because they were off, and he just happen to point out their off-ness in a really satisfying way.


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    AWWW, I feel so special. YOU ROCK TOO.


    Me loves the Fe. I'm such an irrational!
    I also thought your post about ESTp's by an ESTp was really awesome too, I wanted to show it to my boyfriend because he would have loved it, but I couldn't find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBean
    UDP LXIX, Where the fuck do you come up with this shit? You make it seem as though IXFp's have serious emotional and psychological problems. You have a really warped perspective on people of this type. You already have this preconceived notion as to how these people "act" that anyone that acts out in that manner you automatically type them as IXFp's. That's a proplem with many people on this board, and oddly enough is why I always come back and read what people have to say here. For some reason I get a kick out of what a lot of people say here. I have issues. I'm so irrational.

    Quote Originally Posted by UDP II
    IFps all love emotional distress. It's the irrational way.
    Who loves emotional distress? Seriously, who loves being treated like shit?

    If you are emotionally distressful to them, with a sliver of sexuality, you'll be fine. ((this is because they don't have the gumption to outrightly say "my god, you're irrational!", but instead would get more joy from struggling to put up with your faults.
    Like zomg you're like totally so irrational? When I'm a dick, which I am constantly, the first person to put me on check is my INFp wife. She's like, "zomg god you're totally so fucking irrational. Like calm the fuck down." (It seems my wife talks like a 12 year old girl) But honestly, when I'm a dick my wife lets me know I'm a dick. She has absolutely no problem letting me know that i'm being "irrational." She also has absolutely no problem calling people out on their bullshit. She usually tries to avoid it, because she dislikes conflict, but when push comes to shove she doesn't back down. She doesn't get some sort of orgasmic joy when some one treats her like shit. She feels terrible. She really dislikes it. Do you fucking get it.

    If there is physical attraction, it can lead to emotional attraction, and emotional attraction can subordinate rationality or logis to an extreme)). If you are too nice to them, you'll be disregarded. They don't need to help you. They need to help the people who would hurt them, or who are similarly irrational. That way, they can have an emotional, irrational life that they so desire.
    Ok Dr. Phil. Every IXFp thanks you for enlightening the IXFp. Now they can enter the real world and find healthy, meaningful and spiritual relationships. On behalf of the IXFp's, they thank you for your knowledge and wisdom that you have blessed them with on this fine day.
    On the other hand. Every person who wants to attract an IXFp thanks you for the wisdom you've imparted.

    Why would anyone, rational or not, need to help only those that hurt them. That's a truly unhealthy behavior, AND IT IS NOT TYPE RELATED. So stop lumping behavior you don't like into these boxes called Beta, IXFp's, and irrationals.

    But then step in by quickly having a deep emotional experience (such as sex), and then get them in emotional drama, and get them confused about who they love more. Or, maybe as it appears to them, who 'loves them' more, you or the other guy.
    Yeah I get this. I understand this. It seems as though IXFp's have no mind of their own. They don't know what they like and dislike. So the "predator" has to make up their mind for them. You know, they have absolutely no idea what their feelings mean. Those pathetic IXFp's. So gullible. So naive. So easily corrupted and confused. Yes these little, lesser humans.

    Do you feel superior writing shit like this? Does this make your existence much more delightful? Knowing that you're so much more better than these people? Is it, like orgasmic?



    If you victimize I-Fp enough, and treat them poorly enough, but still show some consistency in your affection or desire for them (PARTICULARLY if you leave them for a whlie and then come back to the I-Fp), then you can win their heart.
    Where do you come up with this shit?

    I know that sounds mean, but that's from my standpoint. I've seen it happen numerous times, and that's how it works.
    This is not mean. This is absurd and pathetic.

    Having a drug or other major problem also seems to be a sort of turn on to I-Fps. Where as ISfps (careful erotic attitude) love to give sympathy, INFp (victim) probably just enjoy constant victimization. Both can be rationalize by putting up with emotional distress via their love for the person who causes them this distress.

    Again, a very negative standpoint, but perhaps points to some of the truth.
    Again where the fuck do you come up with this shit?
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    I was actually going to say something about UDP IIís post but didnít get around to it.

    I guess there seem to be a lot of misconceptions about INFpís around here.

    Especially the whole "rape/being taken advantage of" thing...
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    I guess there seem to be a lot of misconceptions about INFpís around here.

    Especially the whole "rape/being taken advantage of" thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP II
    IFps all love emotional distress. It's the irrational way.

    If you are emotionally distressful to them, with a sliver of sexuality, you'll be fine. ((this is because they don't have the gumption to outrightly say "my god, you're irrational!", but instead would get more joy from struggling to put up with your faults. If there is physical attraction, it can lead to emotional attraction, and emotional attraction can subordinate rationality or logis to an extreme)). If you are too nice to them, you'll be disregarded. They don't need to help you. They need to help the people who would hurt them, or who are similarly irrational. That way, they can have an emotional, irrational life that they so desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    AHAHAHAH I CAN FEEL THE HATRED TOWARDS THE P GIRLS THAT CHEATED ON YOU FROM THOSE WORDS
    I can feel how much drama and ignorance of reality exists in udp's personal life. There could be a few reasons a member of the opposite sex doesn't like you(this is for boys), and they vary with age. For the sake of example, let's use UDP's age: a. you aren't attractive enough b. You aren't going to fuck them

    Also unless you are physically attractive/interesting you aren't going to be in situations with the opposite sex without potential for relationship. You won't date around and have lots of girlfriends. If you meet a girl and spend time alone with her she will probably see you in a relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall

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    I was actually going to say something about UDP IIís post but didnít get around to it.

    I guess there seem to be a lot of misconceptions about INFpís around here.

    Especially the whole "rape/being taken advantage of" thing...

    And we need INFps to clear them up! Whenever you have time, of course.


    And yeah, I agree that the whole "Z0mG INFps l1ve to be rap3d" thing is ridiculous. Just because they're doesn't mean that they lay down with their legs splayed, waiting for the next idiot to rape them. I highly doubt that they find that idea a turn on either.
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    I do think INFp's can fall for someone very quickly. I have been with a couple of INFp's now and they were quite into me, and me into them(yes literally )

    Things did get stagnant though, we are both too nice to each other. She would be like "I love you" and i would be like "Yeah i love you too" but soon it was like. hmm all this emotional stuff is booring. UDP is right somewhat about the drama, ENFp's also need a bit of excitement, it cant be too easy.

    She always wanted a snow globe. One day about 4 months after we broke up i bought her one and mailed it to her for her birthday. She rang me up crying. I quite like INFp's they are great people.
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    Best way to seduce an INFp is to either be me or an ESTp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe
    Best way to seduce an INFp is to either be me or an ESTp.

    Awwwlmao

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    I do think INFp's can fall for someone very quickly.

    it depends on what the INFp has lacked in other relationships, or think they lacked

    it depends on how long they have been crushing on someone and you just never knew it

    it depends on how active their imaginiation has been

    and it depends on how bad they are about denial

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    I don't fall easily. I like a certain type of guys. Like, I have a whole list of guys I have puppy crushes on or think they're cute but the serious lingering stuff, I need some sort of encouragement from the other end too. Like, I don't fall for the next cute guy walking down the street. Usually I need to know you for a bit, feel comfortable with you, you make me laugh and then you leave and I'm like ZOMg, come back, come back, waittttttttt, I LOVE YOU.

    UDP, I think any type could act that way, not just INFPs. Totally suggest you don't ever ever go out with a P girl, especially INFPs.

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    Heh. I find it a bit ironic that all the irrational and emotional little INFp girls are UDP's benefactors UDP, what you really want deep down is to learn from them! It is plain and simple socionics. Don't fight it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer
    I don't fall easily. I like a certain type of guys. Like, I have a whole list of guys I have puppy crushes on or think they're cute but the serious lingering stuff, I need some sort of encouragement from the other end too. Like, I don't fall for the next cute guy walking down the street. Usually I need to know you for a bit, feel comfortable with you, you make me laugh and then you leave and I'm like ZOMg, come back, come back, waittttttttt, I LOVE YOU.
    LOL

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