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    I don't know but the man's a genius... he had that uncomfortable piece of metal up his ass for two years! lol

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    just because I so love this speech
    This watch I got here was first purchased by your great-grandfather during the first World War. It was bought in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. Made by the first company to ever make wrist watches. Up till then people just carried pocket watches. It was bought by private Doughboy Erine Coolidge on the day he set sail for Paris. It was your great-grandfather's war watch and he wore it everyday he was in that war. When he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off, put it an old coffee can, and in that can it stayed 'til your granddad Dane Coolidge was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight the Germans once again. This time they called it World War II. Your great-grandfather gave this watch to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Dane was a Marine and he was killed -- along with the other Marines at the battle of Wake Island. Your granddad was facing death, he knew it. None of those boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that island alive. So three days before the Japanese took the island, your granddad asked a gunner on an Air Force transport name of Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he'd never seen in the flesh, his gold watch. Three days later, your granddad was dead. But Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother, delivering to your infant father, his Dad's gold watch. This watch. (holds it up, long pause) This watch was on your Daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured, put in a Vietnamese prison camp. He knew if the gooks ever saw the watch it'd be confiscated, taken away. The way your Dad looked at it, that watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slopes were gonna put their greasy yella hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something. His ass. Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the watch to you.

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    who or what is Transigent?
    what in the hell is always edited for gayness?
    what the fuck is gayness and how can i join?

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    Oh, how I do miss Transigent.

    Quote Originally Posted by mustachio
    who or what is Transigent?
    what in the hell is always edited for gayness?
    what the fuck is gayness and how can i join?
    He kind of edited himself out of this universe.
    Please, do not start "editing for gayness."
    It was his trademark.
    And annoying enough when he did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    Oh, how I do miss Transigent.

    Quote Originally Posted by mustachio
    who or what is Transigent?
    what in the hell is always edited for gayness?
    what the fuck is gayness and how can i join?
    He kind of edited himself out of this universe.
    Please, do not start "editing for gayness."
    It was his trademark.
    And annoying enough when he did it.
    i agree with all of the above

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    I found Christopher Walken very difficult to type, but finally settled on INTP and have never found any real contradictions to that assessment.
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    INFp.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Introverted and intuitive, no doubt. In some of his roles he looks suspiciously much INTj... but I could easily see an Ip typing.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06YE_KsedfQ[/ame]

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    Ni-ENFj without a doubt (probably 8w7 sx/sp). cmon.
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    Beta NF at least. E8 is highly questionable.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    Introverted and intuitive, no doubt. In some of his roles he looks suspiciously much INTj... but I could easily see an Ip typing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06YE_KsedfQ
    i need to see that movie
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    Watched some more of him....

    I now tend towards INTp. He doesn't have the natural "joining" instinct of a Beta NF; isn't a socially participant person that responds the way people "want" him to. His acting is of more of a controlling kind, which is very much NT. But at the same time he is aware of his position among things and how he can take advantage of the flow of events (eg. move "naturally") that is very much Ip > Ij. That's as close as I'm going to get to putting it intelligibly.
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    I did a youtube search on "Michael Keaton" and came upon a man who looks decidedly extroverted, ESTp if I didn't know better; possibly ENTp. You can't be meaning this person...? In any case he isn't the same type as Walken. Have you got any pictures of this "stare" that is so similar to that of Walken?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=solr1W5idNY[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQr0AffTpdE&feature=related[/ame]

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    Watching an interview of this guy, I have no doubt we are the same type. Same mannerisms, gestures, even the things he talks about, very out there. If this guy isn't ENFJ-ni, i don't know what is.
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    I've heard him typed as EIE before.
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    IEI or LII would make more sense to me than EIE.
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    Parkster, you are out of your mind, this guy practically leaps out of his chair, clearly leading. I would expect an IEI to be much more self contained.
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    Yes, he's EIE... Not my subtype, the other one.

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    ENFJ(?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Yes, he's EIE... Not my subtype, the other one.
    Maybe not your subtype because you are NOT EIE, I would say either INFP or ENFP, just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
    Maybe not your subtype because you are NOT EIE, I would say either INFP or ENFP, just my opinion.
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    lol nice comback

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    EIE...? I would think an EIE would come off a bit more strongly. I don't know, he looks more relaxed than your typical EIE.
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    This is a typing that has been practically become accepted (EIE) but that could be given more thought. My guess for him would be INTp.
    Last edited by xkj220; 11-23-2009 at 01:47 AM.

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    I could watch his SNL skits all day, everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xkj220 View Post
    This is a typing that has been practically become accepted (EIE) but that could be given more thought. My guess for him would be INTp.
    Walken is too adept at Fe to pass as Gamma, especially Fe polr (.i.e. INTp.) Nor do I hear any Te in his speech.

    What I mean by too adept at Fe is, Walken's demeanor and voice easily convey various moods (drama, excitement, affection, wistfulness, etc,) which Fe polrs usually cannot. (Fe polr actors are thus pretty rare.)

    Walken is not as expressive as some other EIEs. He's the Ni subtype.

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    What are you talking about? If he's especially renown for something, it's for his blunt, deadpan delivery. The way he articulates everything speaks of Te. He also seems kind of cranky. If he's not ILI he's LIE. Another option would be LII. I'm more inclined to think that his ignoring is Ti or Te, than Ni or Ne, and I'm pretty sure that he's an NT.

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    yes he's more vague and relaxed than a typical EIE. I don't know enough ENFj-Nis to say.. ENFj-Ni is possible. INTp is a hard sell, but not impossible.. given he is an actor and has developed his acting talent into his unique style, that may account for his expressiveness which is not really that strong. His 'thinking out loud' acting philosophy is a Ni take on acting if there ever was one. It's not an Fe take. Which way it goes depends on whether you interpret his expressiveness as conscious and developed or stemming from his type. He is not INFp, he is a dynamic type.
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    How is ENFj not hard to sell? What makes this guy so extroverted then? He is subdued and quiet in most of his roles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06YE_...embedded#at=86

    This video shows him making several blunt Te-ish statements. "Don't suppose you could be tad more specific.", "Don't do that.", etc.

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    The thing about walken is that he doesn't ever do all the animated stuff along with his environment. He does them on his own terms. He is a very independent kind of actor that way. I don't think it looks like Fe at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat View Post
    The thing about walken is that he doesn't ever do all the animated stuff along with his environment. He does them on his own terms. He is a very independent kind of actor that way. I don't think it looks like Fe at all.
    Correct. He always brings his own game.

    More vids:



    This one everybody should see before they die:



    (the way he speaks is clearly Te)

    Dailymotion - Christopher Walken 2003 interview - a Funny video

    Notice how pissed off he gets (although he tries to hide it) when Conan comments on his hair. PoRL hit maybe? ( I think conan o'brien is IEE btw)
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    Addressing some things in the above posts about Walken being INTp:

    * It sounds like xkj220 considers Socionics' extraversion = extroverted (socially.) In Socionics, "subdued" and "quiet" does not correlate to introversion--just as the opposite does not correlate to extroversion... I.e. Whether Walken appears "subdued" or "quiet" is not relevant to his Socionics type. (E.g. in Socionics, there are INTps who are more extroverted (socially) than ENFjs.)

    In Socionics, all that EXXx denotes is that ones leading function is extroverted; likewise IXXx denotes one's is introverted. In other words, one must listen to WHAT one says, not nec. HOW one says it.

    Sometimes it's tricky detecting whether one's leading function is introverted/extroverted; however, to someone well-versed, it's not very tricky to tell in one is "speaking" Te, Fe, Ti, etc. They all have their own particular ways of coming across--in what people talk express.

    So when someone says, "I don't think he looks Fe..." (as above.) All that tells me is they're (erroneously) evaluating looks, not content.

    In this case--even in the interview you posted, interview pt 2--Walken speaks of relationships/styles in the world of theatre, of funny accents he can do, of his upbringing, etc. He speaks of these easily and fluently, (i.e. without difficulty, as Te polrs, such as INTps/ISTps, usually do.) In Socionics, fluency in these topics connotes adroitness w Fe and Ni.

    In that interview, there is nothing that Walken says that connotes or denotes skill with/interest in Te. (If you detect something, however, I'm interested to know what it is.) IMO, INTp is not the correct type. (In terms of IM elements expressed, INFp is much more likely than INTp.)

    I'm writing this not to fight with you--I could care less what people here believe, and am no longer interested in persuading anyone... I'm trying to give an explanation.

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    yeah you're right he is INTP-Ni. It's clear in those interviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    Addressing some things in the above posts about Walken being INTp:

    * It sounds like xkj220 considers Socionics' extraversion = extroverted (socially.)
    Lol. I have never, ever said that. In fact, iirc there are few posts in my post history where I am presenting arguments against that view.

    In Socionics, "subdued" and "quiet" does not correlate to introversion--just as the opposite does not correlate to extroversion... I.e. Whether Walken appears "subdued" or "quiet" is not relevant to his Socionics type. (E.g. in Socionics, there are INTps who are more extroverted (socially) than ENFjs.)
    Nice try explaining stuff that you don't quite understand.

    In Socionics, all that EXXx denotes is that ones leading function is extroverted; likewise IXXx denotes one's is introverted. In other words, one must listen to WHAT one says, not nec. HOW one says it.
    Uh? Do you mean that WHAT is important or that HOW is important? Also, what is "nec"? Ah nvm, I got it now. Why is one important and not the other?

    Sometimes it's tricky detecting whether one's leading function is introverted/extroverted; however, to someone well-versed, it's not very tricky to tell in one is "speaking" Te, Fe, Ti, etc. They all have their own particular ways of coming across--in what people talk express.
    Yeah, and he speaks Te (IMHO).

    So when someone says, "I don't think he looks Fe..." (as above.) All that tells me is they're (erroneously) evaluating looks, not content.
    Looks you mean as in VI?
    In this case--even in the interview you posted, interview pt 2--Walken speaks of relationships/styles in the world of theatre, of funny accents he can do, of his upbringing, etc. He speaks of these easily and fluently, (i.e. without difficulty, as Te polrs, such as INTps/ISTps, usually do.) In Socionics, fluency in these topics connotes adroitness w Fe and Ni.
    I'm not sure IXTps are unable to speak about their emotions. Is that what Fe PoRL is? Is anybody who is able to speak about their stances and subjective thoughts on things a Fe + Ni, or Ni + Fe ego type? Are logical types unable to do impressions of people?

    In that interview, there is nothing that Walken says that connotes or denotes skill with/interest in Te. (If you detect something, however, I'm interested to know what it is.)
    "Skill/interest" in Te? I can tell that the way he structures his thoughts is Te. Look at it here. Don't make me look for particular statements that he makes to show as examples because it's tedious and I don't feel like it atm. Watch the interview that I posted.

    I'm writing this not to fight with you--I could care less what people here believe, and am no longer interested in persuading anyone... I'm trying to give an explanation.
    Sure, no worries. I don't know exactly what you are referring to, but just letting you know that I am genuinely interested in finding his type, and not arguing for the sake of arguing (which I find unproductive). I currently go by a theory that would make an EIE-Ni similar in some ways to an INTp, so it's possible. Anything else you can bring to the table will be appreciated.
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    Do not let yourself be confused by jewjews babbling. You will find most people on this forum have no idea how to distinguish between Te and Fe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu
    *It sounds like xkj220 considers Socionics' extraversion = extroverted (socially.) In Socionics, "subdued" and "quiet" does not correlate to introversion--just as the opposite does not correlate to extroversion... I.e. Whether Walken appears "subdued" or "quiet" is not relevant to his Socionics type. (E.g. in Socionics, there are INTps who are more extroverted (socially) than ENFjs.)
    It is still the general trend that extroverts are louder and less subdued than introverts. While the fact that a person is quiet and subdued is not an end-all proof of the fact s/he is introverted, it is still an argument.

    In other words, if you're going to believe this:

    I.e. Whether Walken appears "subdued" or "quiet" is not relevant to his Socionics type.
    and really believe his level of social extroversion is not in any way relevant to his typing, you might as well throw all of socionics out of the window and say there isn't anything at all to base typings on.

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    crazedrat, you still think you're INTp..? (It's true, I do find "most people on this forum have no idea how to distinguish between Fe and Te." :cough: cough: Good to see you though.)

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    xkj220" "Nice try explaining stuff you don't understand..?" well THANK GOD you're here!! I've been waiting YEARS for someone to come along and teach me "stuff I don't understand..." Now the moment's finally here!! And to think: you understand ALL of this "stuff" after just four months and five hundred posts..! Goddamned miracle.

    (I.e. Don't be an asshole.)

    Seriously: if, as you say, you're genuinely interested in finding out Walken's type--and discussing it on this forum--it'd be good if you'd explain, specifically, why you think he's expressing Te... As I explained why he's expressing Fe and Ni.

    If you can't do better than "the way he structures thoughts is Te," then you can't do it... Indicating there may be "stuff you don't understand."

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    labcoat, you're right about "general trends..." In this case though, we're not talking about "general trends." We're talking about a specific case--Christopher Walken... If you'd like to compare him with another quiet, subdued Ni-EIE, Dennis Hopper is one.

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    I tentatively agree with that typing for Dennis hopper. Now; do you really think they are the same type?

    (I.e. Don't be an asshole.)
    Was testing to see if you value Se, which you don't, by the way..

    Okay, seeing you understand everything because you've been here for years.. an easy one: why is it that EJ and EP types sometimes seems introverted and IP and IJ types sometimes seem extroverted?

    Seriously: if, as you say, you're genuinely interested in finding out Walken's type--and discussing it on this forum--it'd be good if you'd explain, specifically, why you think he's expressing Te... As I explained why he's expressing Fe and Ni.

    If you can't do better than "the way he structures thoughts is Te," then you can't do it... Indicating there may be "stuff you don't understand."
    Get back to you later.

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    xkj220--re: your question--why, if you say your question is "an easy one," (implying you know the answer,) do you want an answer from me..?

    I'm not interested in playing syntax games with you, (i.e. many forum members' preferred method of argument, as opposed to constructive idea exchange,) or undergoing 'tests' by you... Based on your last "test," either you misunderstand Socionics terminology re: "valuing Se," you're a bad Socionics typist, or else your test was bad... One of the three.

    As to why Socionics introverts can seem extroverted and vice versa...

    It's because Socionics attempts to explain how people process information, (i.e. which IM elements ppl value and devalue)--and peoples' social introversion/extroversion has nothing to do with... So, to sum up, the answer is: b/c social introversion/extraversion does not fit into the theory.

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