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Hmmm. I'll start with the other alpha types.
SEI: A trip to some exciting event.
ILE: Any object relating to what they are a fanboy of.
ESE: A new pet or introducing them to a new board game.
LSE: Your time and devotion for the day and a handwritten thank you note.
EII: Fixing whatever it was they were complaining about.
SLI: A new set of antiques or sporting equipment
IEE: A party with lots of food.
LSI: Money to buy something themself.
EIE: A documentary or educational book
IEI: Romantic movie or book
SLE: Weight-lifting set
ILI: A new computer or set of tools
SEE: Alcohol/booze or anything that is expensive
LIE: A club membership
ESI: Furniture or house appliances.
Last edited by Muddytextures; 12-10-2015 at 06:58 AM.
Might do more later but this post is already obnoxiously large.
Lol I like jewelry
Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
I like gift cards to my favorite stores, games (board and video), movies, music, money for clothes (don't buy clothes for me because they may not fit right), and chocolate.
EII - INTj - Dostoyevsky -
No, it's not a typo!
Inspired by gifts that had success IRL
ILE: A bluetooth toothbrush (no no I am not kidding)
EII: skincare (you need to know the person a bit)
SEI: a cashmere sweater
I may continue if people are interested...
Sylvia Plath — 'I desire the things which will destroy me in the end.'
I like warm meals and useful gadgets.
LIIs like ponies.
Your thoughts are almost entirely contingent on your specific experience. Why be so attached to them?
I get journals or books for almost every birthday. It's gotten to the point that im scared i wont be able to use them all in this lifetime lol. But yeah journals and books and music.
I like useful things. I'd rather get a vacuum than a necklace.
Take me to the theater and dinner. Thanks.
SEI art and/or craft supplies, tickets to fun event or theme park
ILE chemistry set?
ESE fancy makeup, jewelry, clothes, gift card so they can shop
LII book on programming
IEI art supplies
SLE good vodka
EIE theater tickets
LSI fine wine?
ILI cosplay stuff, a rare edition of a favorite book
ESI vacuum cleaner?
SLI sex, something to contribute to a hobby of theirs
IEE trip, massage package, lessons for cooking, art, craft, etc
LSE photo book of shared memories
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
The best gift I ever got was from an ESI buddy of mine, He gave me a small plastic folding case full of drill bits and taps. It was something I wanted, but would not have bought for myself. The greatness of the gift was that he knew me well enough to know that I would like it but would not buy it for myself.
EII - A rubber ducky for the bubble baths.
http://www.amazon.com/How-Would-Move...rds=mount+fuji - in addition to puzzle books, books on informal logic, and the "Road to Reality" by Roger Penrose (http://www.amazon.com/Road-Reality-C...oad+to+reality).
This year, it's "The Theoretical Minimum" by Leonard Susskind (http://www.amazon.com/Theoretical-Mi...etical+minimum). ALSO, I'm taking courses here (for fun): http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk...rk-entry-route - and I was THINKING of saving my Christmas money for programming textbooks...
i.e., close but no cigar!
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LII-IEI; 5w4 ---> 5 (LII)-w-(IEI) 4.
LII-IEI; 5w4 ---> 5 (LII)-w-(IEI) 4.
And a future present (if anyone is interested in buying it for me): https://www.google.ca/search?q=1980s...CIaIBTjpM4M%3A
LII-IEI; 5w4 ---> 5 (LII)-w-(IEI) 4.
It's not really that i want a vacuum cleaner. Unless mine was broken somehow and i still kept using it and not getting a new one, which is the sort of shit i might do. Its more about like what @Adam Strange said about something useful that i wouldn't get myself.
I really like this one because somebody tried to give me a planner book one year and I absolutely hated it. I threw the thing in the trash as soon as the person left. lolz.LSE: Planner-agenda
If you want to make me happy
electronics like tablet or laptop is nice too
books are great too
some sort of vacation is nice too
The mind a killing weapon
The heart an open wound
Gift giving is both emotionally and intuitively based for me. Probably more emotional but I buy a lot of practical gifts for people that need, or want, them but won't buy for themselves for whatever reason. I also give a lot of gifts based on the energy I am feeling in the moment. I gift my friends frequently on impulse and one year I bought half a forum I was a member of gifts in July. lol I was so caught up in the spirit of giving. I am also a firm believer that what you give comes back to you in another form. I will even send gifts anonymously to my friends sometimes but after years of this they know it is me. When asked if it was me I might reply with, "maybe" and never confirm or deny. It is sort of like a secret santa game but all year long.
I am way better at gift giving than receiving because it just feels better to give them than to receive them. Receiving often makes me feel a bit awkward and sometimes overwhelmed. Some people say they never really know what to give me because when I want something I buy it for myself, or someone really close to me (family) will buy it for me if I mention wanting it, before they get a chance to. What do you give someone who has everything they want...
I am not that hard to read though. I like things that sparkle and contain elements of myth and magic. Some of my friends have given me tarot cards, faery, astrological, fantasy/scifi, and mythological books, shiny unusual trinkets from foreign lands, incense and candles which I always appreciate as I can never have too many of those things. Not suggesting any of those unless you know the person well enough to know they would like it. One year I got petrified wood and it was beautiful since it really sparkles like there is glitter in it. For my birthday this year I got a really cool Himalayan salt lamp and blue agate coasters, among other things, and I loved them. It was not something I expected to get so it was a surprise.
I don't think you can really buy gifts based on type though. I love getting electronic gadgets too but no one ever thinks to get me something electronic unless I specifically ask.
I wouldn't mind getting a vacuum cleaner or a new dishwasher if I needed one but I usually get that stuff for myself when I absolutely have to because something is broken and I can no longer get any use out of it.
Edit: Sometimes I am a bit childlike when giving gifts and will give something unusual to surprise someone because they expect something more predictable.
Ah, I see, for that special, self harming, IEI 4, in your life, who has everything. In that case maybe a nice gift basket with new razors, alcohol, and a first aid kit, all tied up in a big red bow. Wouldn't want them to get an infection or tetanus from the gift. Hmm, include a gift cert for a tetanus shot at a local clinic.
You could also include a print out of safety tips.
PSA: Safety first. http://we-do-care.tumblr.com/selfharmsafety
In two seconds you really can find instructions for anything online.
You've given me a lot of talking points so I'll try to hit them all.
1) Greetings, T16Ters!
2) I'd like commenters to mention their own type and what type of gifts they prefer to receive. Is it an actual physical gift, or do you prefer something with sentimental value? Do you prefer 'prizes' or gifts of status, or do you prefer gifts that are practical? Do you prefer a gift that is a symbol?
I like books or stuff which is "utility-dense" i.e. the object is very useful for my life. Sappy sentimental stuff is sweet but ultimately a waste in my opinion, and I hate having to throw out stuff which I've been gifted but I also am not going to waste time/space if it's getting in the way. When you say "prizes or gifts of status" I'm not sure what you mean. Either way in my head a gift of status only counts if it's a clear indicator that you are successful somewhere. E.g. a trophy is a waste of space, but it does denote that you won something; getting an expensive car doesn't signify anything about your worth or success because money it is not a clear signaller about your success.
I like to get presents - I don't think they're a waste of resources - an I see nothing wrong with people asking me what I want as a present.
Doing some Socionics on this: Liking books is probably a classic LII trait. It's all about knowledge and new ideas.
RE: "Utility-density". I think that's an IJ trait? It's a focus on simplicity and maximal utility. EJs would want maximum stuff to give them the options; EPs would want interesting stuff to allow them to do something/discover something; IPs would want something which helps them achieve something specific they want to do.
RE: Disliking sentimental stuff. It's that whole chain of -dom, -role, -suggestive. While I recognise the gift is sweet, I don't put that much value on it. Instead, it becomes an obligation to keep the gift, because that's the way I parse such sentimental gifts. I also don't know how to express my happiness at the gift. If it's something practical I can wear it over and over again to indicate "yes, I really like this jacket!" but I don't want to have to gush over how sweet it is that they remembered I like X band and I had looked all over for their t-shirt. (Example fictional)
RE: Gifts of status. That's probably the -creative, -Polr thing. I don't brag about my status and image isn't important. I'm more concerned about the true essence of what the gift means.
3) I think one of the Reinin dichotomies mentions that certain types prefer to receive either resources or information - so you could certainly include that into your answer, or approach it with that mindset.
I see from here (link for everyone's convenience) that I am obstinate and more focused on ideas. I'm not sure how that aligns with my relationship with presents, because I actually would be upset if I had a party and got no presents which sounds like I would treat resources as 'sacred'.
Perhaps it comes down to the following sentences:
Yielding: “If I know I can't do something, I won't and will forget all about it.”
Obstinate: “I won't abandon my interests just because my resources are inadequate, but simply work towards improving my resources until they ARE adequate.”
So I have certain interests and I know specifically what resources I need to achieve them. So when Xmas rolls around I know specifically what gifts I want, hence I prefer people to ask me what I want and I prefer gifts which have some great utility, because they will act in service of these interests.
4) What do you think the best gift is for each type besides yourself? Do you think the amount of money that went into the gift matters more or less for certain types?
Based on the above there are 5 hypotheses:
H1: -valuing people will prefer the sentimental gift. People bad at will be bad at finding sentimental gifts.
H2: -dominant people will prefer the showy gift
H3: SEI, ILE, IEI, SLE, ESI, LIE, EII and LSE will not know what gifts they want, and not want to be asked to choose their own present. The remaining types (LII, ESE, LSI, EIE, ILI, SEE, SLI, IEE) will know and won't mind being asked.
H4: LII like books
H5: EJs want maximum stuff to give them options; EPs want interesting stuff which may be related to one of their hobbies; IPs want simple things which fits into their life neatly or solves a specific problem they have; IJs want something simple but useful.
5) Which types do you find are the hardest people to buy gifts for? Which types are the easiest?
I have not typed many of my friends. Anyway, of the ones I have I think probably EIIs, ILEs and SLEs are the hardest to buy for. EIIs because they may not be happy with the present but they won't tell you and so you always have that doubt. ILEs because they are too confusing: they will be happy with the weirdest things, and find other things thoughtful but unexciting. SLEs because I don't understand them, man; they probably want some sport thing or some exciting hobby thing and my hobbies and their hobbies do not align.
6) What gifts have you given or received in the past? What gifts are you hoping to get in the future?
I have chosen not to answer this question cos my answers are boring. Sorry!
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I prefer cards or money. When people buy me stuff, I usually think "if I had wanted this, I would have already bought it."
I don't like having a lot of 'stuff', so generally just prefer cash or gift cards to put towards bills or other necessary things as they come up.
What I always want and true for other INFx
And I hate surprises lol
And lets face it, everyone likes bling. Even if you don't wear it bling can be exchanged readily for money as it tends to contain precious metals and stones. It's like a proto-universal gift card. I wouldn't mind getting bling either.
I think after the first time he implied that i actually was lying or don't even know what i like because "all women do" it just ruined any chance for me to ever be grateful when he bought it. Like what the fuck, i should have just bought him ties every year even though he never wore them. Everybody knows bitches love ties. I'm so annoyed just thinking about it.