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    Default Instinct stacking distribution

    couldn't find much info on this topic after some quick Googling - not sure if there's any reliable, hard data available out there.

    i'm interested in your own observations here: have you noticed any instinctual variants being more common or rarer than others? is there a relatively even distribution of the six stackings or not? are certain variants more or less prevalent among certain areas/sectors of society? etc.

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    On personality forums, there's a disproportionate number of SX firsts. Probably because the profile sounds more 'unique' and 'special.' Some of them are likely mistyped. In the real world, the most common stackings are probably SP/SO/SX or SO/SP/SC.
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    this is far from being objective, but from my experience so/sp, sp/sx and sp/so are pretty common. i don't see sp/so THAT often, however, and often when i think someone might be sp/so, they turn out so/sp. so/sp are literally everywhere (sp/so might just be a bit more low key)... sx/so and sx/sp i also know quite a few. maybe sx/so is a bit more common than sx/sp. and for whatever reason i don't understand so/sx is really rare (where i live? it's a bigger city). there are so/sp who sometimes appear like so/sx to me until i realise, nope, not at all. and when i say rare, i mean really rare. even in all my school years put together i was always the only so/sx around (most school mates can be definitely typed as contra-flow) and in my highschool years i knew exactly one so/sx IEE guy from afar.

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    found a thread on Personality Cafe on this topic: http://personalitycafe.com/enneagram...l-variant.html

    the posters in there are basically saying that so-instinct is the most common, and sx-instinct is rarest. i was wondering: are there actually more so-primary and so-secondary instinct people out there? or is it an easy conclusion to make, since the so-instincts are more likely to be socially "visible", the ones putting themselves out there, looking to make and maintain social connections? that is, i wonder if so-last types may not necessarily be more rare, but are just less obviously "out there", and thus may seem less prevalent.

    also, i'm wondering if the relatively self-absorbed nature of the so-last stackings (sx/sp being troubled and contradictory, sp/sx's insularity, etc.) might lead them to feel that they are misunderstood, that they are different than most people, etc. and thus conclude that their stacking is more rare, even if it's not necessarily the case. one sx-primary poster in that thread admitted to having a "special snowflake syndrome".

    mostly thinking out loud here. logically, i feel like a relatively even distribution of stackings would make the most "sense", but is it realistic? i don't feel like my own stacking is necessarily more common than others, though one post in that thread i linked said 40-50% are sp/so (!). i'm skeptical seeing percentages that high for any one stacking.

    thoughts?

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    Why would sx be the rarest? sx firsts seem to stick out the most to me for obvious reasons, especially sx/so... plus, we have a bunch of sx firsts here, so they don't seem that rare to me. Maybe it's common that people who are sx first would like to think that they are rare?
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    I theorize that all instincts are distributed equally, but some social environments will draw the appeal of certain stackings over others. IME I see a lot of sp-firsts where I work and in my hobby life, followed by a smattering of so-firsts and virtually no sx-firsts.
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    I've had this same question couple years ago. With the absence of any kind of instinct typing databases, I've took my own typings of people I knew irl, added typings I've done through the forums, and simply divided by the total which was about 220 data points. The SOC-last / SX-last / SP-last distribution turned out to be relatively even 33-36-31 (+ error bars) with no "special snowflake" variants.

    Locally there may be high variations, however, due to inter-stacking relations and possibly genetics. For example I currently live in a household with 4 other people all of whom happen to have so/sx instinct stacking, and, for the most part, they keep attracting even more so/sx's and other syn-chain people as friends and romantic partners. One side of my family is almost all sp/so with some so/sp's, which made me wonder if genetics plays a part. However, adding up samples from several different local groups, the distributions within this total turned out to be close to even.

    These were the results from 2013:

    My typings of people from irl + forum members:
    Sp/sx – 19%
    Sp/so – 19%
    So/sx – 17%
    So/sp – 17%
    Sx/sp – 14%
    Sx/so – 14%
    Total: 100% (~220 typings)

    SO-last - 33%
    SP-last - 31%
    SX-last - 36%
    Which is close to expected even distributions of 33.3%.

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    I wonder if natural selection will eventually kill off social lasts in the future with how important social media & networking is becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I theorize that all instincts are distributed equally, but some social environments will draw the appeal of certain stackings over others. IME I see a lot of sp-firsts where I work and in my hobby life, followed by a smattering of so-firsts and virtually no sx-firsts.
    The sx first I know irl have more thrill seeking hobbies or they'll really immerse themselves and become literally obsessed with a hobby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I wonder if natural selection will eventually kill off social lasts in the future with how important social media & networking is becoming...
    Wouldn't that be like wondering if natural selection would kill off sp lasts since more and more generations aren't learning how to cook or care for themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    Wouldn't that be like wondering if natural selection would kill off sp lasts since more and more generations aren't learning how to cook or care for themselves?
    The new generation of sp first had to evolve coping mechanisms for this, which is why we evolved hot pockets and ramen noodles.
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    Could instinct development be partially a response to challenges faced in childhood?

    I was dirt-poor growing up -- like really, really poor, and I had to learn to take responsibility from an early age. Now that I've carefully looked into instinct stackings, I'm rather sure of being sp-first.

    My parents had tons of money but lost it all when I was two. They had an active social life to the point of blowing thousands of dollars on parties and get-togethers. They're both unambiguously so-first Beta rationals and are still completely irresponsible with money.

    Then again, maybe I was inclined to learn financial discipline from an innate disposition towards being sp. chicken / egg / etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    The new generation of sp first had to evolve coping mechanisms for this, which is why we evolved hot pockets and ramen noodles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    On personality forums, there's a disproportionate number of SX firsts. Probably because the profile sounds more 'unique' and 'special.' Some of them are likely mistyped. In the real world, the most common stackings are probably SP/SO/SX or SO/SP/SC.
    I don't really relate to all the attraction with sx/sp and sx/so. On some level I think being a So-first would be better because people of those types are more inclined to stay connected with the world at large. When I consider that a multitude of jobs at the upper level rely on one's ability to network and maintain even superficial connections (even in more knowledge-based fields like healthcare, which is my area of expertise), I think that my propensity to live an "insular," isolated existence isn't preferable. I've learned so much from my So-first friends in this regard, and they've probably learned from me in a complementary manner (though I certainly can't speak for them).

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