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    Greetings! I'm an EII who's absolutely new to this forum and to the English-speaking side of the socionics. And I find that quite puzzling, as I've known about socionics since the beginning of this century, I've been using it, I've even formally studied it for a while - but all in Russian. The last time I looked English-language resources were scarce and inadequate. Well, that must have been a long time ago So I'm quite curious about this forum and website and will definitely stay for a while, even if I'm not very talkative or proactive

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    Welcome. It would be nice to make a friend in that side of the world as I recently lost a Russian Socionics mentor to cancer.

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    Welcome You may find the machine-translated articles entertaining, they have some funny wordings.
    Reason is a whore.

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    Welcome to the16.
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    @sergeyeva welcome to the16types!

    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    It would be nice to make a friend in that side of the world as I recently lost a Russian Socionics mentor to cancer.
    i'm so sorry to hear that Maritsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    @sergeyeva welcome to the16types!


    i'm so sorry to hear that Maritsa
    Thank you glam

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    I'm wondering if you see any differences in thought/culture between the English socionics community and the Russian one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Welcome. It would be nice to make a friend in that side of the world as I recently lost a Russian Socionics mentor to cancer.
    That's very sad
    I'd be happy to make friends, especially friends of my type, so that we could compare our life experiences

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuavaDrunk View Post
    Welcome You may find the machine-translated articles entertaining, they have some funny wordings.
    entertaining doesn't start to describe it actually, I'm often frustrated with inadequate translations, but that is just because I'm an interpreter and a bit of perfectionist in my job

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Welcome to the16.
    Thank you, wacey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncivilized View Post
    I'm wondering if you see any differences in thought/culture between the English socionics community and the Russian one.
    nothing significant yet, but there may be differences. I'm very new to this English side of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
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    Hi! Nice to see somebody from Lithuania

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    Hi! It's great that you are here. From your first post, I could see that you are intelligent and extremely articulate (and a later one says you are an interpreter - even better). With that, plus your background in Socionics, I'm hoping you can refine some of the translated articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergeyeva View Post
    That's very sad
    I'd be happy to make friends, especially friends of my type, so that we could compare our life experiences
    That is the reason why I have always wanted a friend of the same type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Hi! It's great that you are here. From your first post, I could see that you are intelligent and extremely articulate (and a later one says you are an interpreter - even better). With that, plus your background in Socionics, I'm hoping you can refine some of the translated articles.
    Thank you, Adam, you're very kind. I've been thinking of doing just that, though how soon I'll get down to it, I can't really say.

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    Many people type themself wrong. I recommend you to make video so your your type could be checked.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Many people type themself wrong. I recommend you to make video so your your type could be checked.
    Many people get different types even with videos. And even during typing interviews in person : http://www.socioforum.su/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=58221


    @sergeyeva welcome and enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Many people type themself wrong. I recommend you to make video so your your type could be checked.
    With my background in socionics I'm quite sure of my type, thank you
    But I expect my video could be of some educational value if I commented on how my personality and the expression of different functions have changed overtime due to my long-standing marriage to an ILE and due to my job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kore View Post
    Many people get different types even with videos. And even during typing interviews in person : http://www.socioforum.su/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=58221


    @sergeyeva welcome and enjoy
    Very true. That's one of the foremost problems in socionics. I believe that a person's type can only be confirmed by that same person after studying the theory quite thoroughly and after a lot of introspection. Which doesn't sound easy or quick But that's the safest way. Have you heard of that experiment, when somebody was typed by different schools of socionics into, like, 10 diferent types? And those were established schools, all teaching, typing for money, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergeyeva View Post
    Very true. That's one of the foremost problems in socionics. I believe that a person's type can only be confirmed by that same person after studying the theory quite thoroughly and after a lot of introspection. Which doesn't sound easy or quick But that's the safest way. Have you heard of that experiment, when somebody was typed by different schools of socionics into, like, 10 diferent types? And those were established schools, all teaching, typing for money, etc.
    I have heard and have experienced such situation myself Eventually I stopped after the 5th typing (3 on skype, 1 via emails/pictures + 1 via a video, oh wait there were also 2 MBTI ones, so that makes 7!).
    Those were part of my curiosity, I also have a very hard time resisting my whims so I am one of those who throw their money in typology experiences/tests.... But overall it was really funny.
    A lot of things have to be considered in typing anyway, and as much as I agree with the fact that a type is inborn, we also have to mind human experience and cultural/social malleability.
    People do change a lot over time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kore View Post
    I have heard and have experienced such situation myself Eventually I stopped after the 5th typing (3 on skype, 1 via emails/pictures + 1 via a video, oh wait there were also 2 MBTI ones, so that makes 7!).
    Those were part of my curiosity, I also have a very hard time resisting my whims so I am one of those who throw their money in typology experiences/tests.... But overall it was really funny.
    A lot of things have to be considered in typing anyway, and as much as I agree with the fact that a type is inborn, we also have to mind human experience and cultural/social malleability.
    People do change a lot over time...

    I just think people want to see what the person looks like, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird View Post
    Hello! I look forward to reading your posts
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kore View Post
    I have heard and have experienced such situation myself Eventually I stopped after the 5th typing (3 on skype, 1 via emails/pictures + 1 via a video, oh wait there were also 2 MBTI ones, so that makes 7!).
    Those were part of my curiosity, I also have a very hard time resisting my whims so I am one of those who throw their money in typology experiences/tests.... But overall it was really funny.
    A lot of things have to be considered in typing anyway, and as much as I agree with the fact that a type is inborn, we also have to mind human experience and cultural/social malleability.
    People do change a lot over time...
    People do change a lot, that's very true. And a "typist" can never know all the influences that have shaped a person. Moreover, when in a social situation and meeting new people we usually present our "role" mask, not our true personality, which is only revealed to people we can trust. So many typings are an educated guess at most. But I still think that socionics as such is valid and really helpful in understanding oneself and other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay View Post
    I just think people want to see what the person looks like, lol.
    There might be that curiosity, too

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    @sergeyeva

    it would be interesting to compare notes.


    Welcome aboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergeyeva View Post
    entertaining doesn't start to describe it actually, I'm often frustrated with inadequate translations, but that is just because I'm an interpreter and a bit of perfectionist in my job
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