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    A thread to share images and related media that remind you specifically of Gamma Duality.

    I'll start with a few pictures reminiscent of male LIE - female ESI pairings.






    I find the last image captures the Victim/Aggressor dynamic between ESI-LIE perfectly. Have not found a better image for that yet. The LIE is holding a gun, which technically would make him the more "powerful" one; it indicates his Pseudo-Aggressor-ness. However, the "real" Aggressor is the female ESI, who is sitting on top and holding him by his tie with a slightly commanding look in her eyes; she's in control. The LIE looks back with both a slightly startled but respectful glance that shows his true Victim-ness. It seems like he is awaiting demands from her for him to execute.


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    Even though everyone will say Morticia is ESI, I think a lot of episodes show an INTp-ESFp dynamic between Morticia (ILI) and Gomez (SEE).

    Gomez tells Morticia that she "was so beautiful, pale, and mysterious. No one even looked at the corpse."

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    I feel like this could be the case of another male LIE with female ESI, just the fantasy version.

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    @SisOfNight I really like your taste, I wouldn't have found better images if I started the thread
    so feel free to change your type to be a gamma you'll be more than welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    @SisOfNight I really like your taste, I wouldn't have found better images if I started the thread
    so feel free to change your type to be a gamma you'll be more than welcome
    Haha, I appreciate the compliment.
    But I am surely a Beta NF.

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    Lot of horny ppl on this site these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    But I am surely a Beta NF.
    Maybe that's why your romantic associations even for gamma are betish. Gamma is Fi valued - it's white and furry, not demonic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    A thread to share images and related media that remind you specifically of Gamma Duality.

    I'll start with a few pictures reminiscent of male LIE - female ESI pairings.






    I find the last image captures the Victim/Aggressor dynamic between ESI-LIE perfectly. Have not found a better image for that yet. The LIE is holding a gun, which technically would make him the more "powerful" one; it indicates his Pseudo-Aggressor-ness. However, the "real" Aggressor is the female ESI, who is sitting on top and holding him by his tie with a slightly commanding look in her eyes; she's in control. The LIE looks back with both a slightly startled but respectful glance that shows his true Victim-ness. It seems like he is awaiting demands from her for him to execute.
    2 and 3 seem very aggressor/victimi......ish. This never happens to me while wearing a tux or a carrying a gun, in either case i'm very pseudo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    A thread to share images and related media that remind you specifically of Gamma Duality.

    I'll start with a few pictures reminiscent of male LIE - female ESI pairings.






    I find the last image captures the Victim/Aggressor dynamic between ESI-LIE perfectly. Have not found a better image for that yet. The LIE is holding a gun, which technically would make him the more "powerful" one; it indicates his Pseudo-Aggressor-ness. However, the "real" Aggressor is the female ESI, who is sitting on top and holding him by his tie with a slightly commanding look in her eyes; she's in control. The LIE looks back with both a slightly startled but respectful glance that shows his true Victim-ness. It seems like he is awaiting demands from her for him to execute.
    2 and 3 seem good examples of aggro/victim. This never happens to me when I wear a tuxedo or carry a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncivilized View Post
    Even though everyone will say Morticia is ESI, I think a lot of episodes show an INTp-ESFp dynamic between Morticia (ILI) and Gomez (SEE).

    Gomez tells Morticia that she "was so beautiful, pale, and mysterious. No one even looked at the corpse."

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    The movie or the sitcom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Lot of horny ppl on this site these days.
    Let's be honest @wacey, everyone on the net is horny. Let's not forget what the most visited sites peddle. Like the song says "The Internet is for Porn".

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    More LIE-ESI pictures.








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    Female Aggressor/Male Victim interaction is strong with those two.

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    none of these make me think gamma.

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    except the cat woman batman stuff, but that seems more intra quadra

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post



    Female Aggressor/Male Victim interaction is strong with those two.
    Holy shit. Selina looks exactly like the IEI I was seeing, including the hair style. And her behavior is what I project from the hints I get from an ESI I know.
    No wonder this is the only Batman movie I thought was any good. I haven't seen this movie for years, but I remember one scene very well.
    It is after she is betrayed by her boss and is thrown out of her apartment window. And returns, transformed.
    I've seen that face, at 1:33 to 1:44

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    I notice a lot of LIE-ESI examples but few ILI-SEE examples. What's the difference between those dyads? How would one tell them apart? On the face of it they're both victim-aggressor pairings but what is the difference between how LIE-ILI play victim and ESI-SEE play aggressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    I notice a lot of LIE-ESI examples but few ILI-SEE examples. What's the difference between those dyads? How would one tell them apart? On the face of it they're both victim-aggressor pairings but what is the difference between how LIE-ILI play victim and ESI-SEE play aggressor?
    ILI-SEE examples are somehow more difficult to find, at least for me.

    But I believe this interaction between Harley Quinn and Batman could be a good example of the SEE-ILI dynamic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    ILI-SEE examples are somehow more difficult to find, at least for me.

    But I believe this interaction between Harley Quinn and Batman could be a good example of the SEE-ILI dynamic.
    I can see it @SisOfNight, girl just up and kisses the ILI hard then just brushes it off like it isn't a big deal. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that. And @uncivilized I can see Haruhi being SEE. Kyon doesn't really admit it but he likes her eccentric attention and all the craziness she brings into his life. I wonder what type you think Yuki Nagato is. She was always on of my favorite characters in that show. Severely introverted yet really cute, I'd date her in a heartbeat .

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    Dr. Manhattan, ILI. Laurie, Gamma SF (possibly ESI, so their interaction may rather be Activity).






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    Sis, I think Laurie is Delta, probably LSE. I wanted to like her in the movie, but found there was nothing there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Sis, I think Laurie is Delta, probably LSE. I wanted to like her in the movie, but found there was nothing there.
    Mhm... I find LSE unlikely. She likely seemed more unlikable, because she's ditched Dr. Manhattan and the acting/script was not too fitting.
    Perhaps she was more Delta in the movie, but I doubt her character is not Gamma.

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    Best ILI/SEE duals of all time... Ricky and Julian from Trailer Park Boys, lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    She doesn't strike me as LIE or ILI........her tan is too even.

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    Obviously the NT is the robot ;p
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    Hitta: or a bukkake girl

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    This reminds me of the first HELLRAISER. Pinhead is LII, don't know why I think that, maybe because he seems Asexual, not saying LII are Asexual, just the ones I know. Now Frank and Julia, those scumbags strike me as very Aggressor-Victim, but more Beta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    Obviously the NT is the robot ;p
    Its hilarious that you had to point this out! Hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    Obviously the NT is the robot ;p
    No, Gamma NT are victims, robot is an aggressor ISFJ...........probably the Se subtype. The sharp flesh cutting metal shards suggest lead Fi.

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    Yeah I first took it as obvious aggressor/victim but the robot thing threw me off. He's hurting her incidentally because of his robot parts which I don't think is how aggressor /victim works. I wonder how @SisOfNight saw it.
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    That metal snake penis though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    That metal snake penis though.
    Lol, I didn't even notice it till you pointed it out.........or that he was Jewish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    Yeah I first took it as obvious aggressor/victim but the robot thing threw me off. He's hurting her incidentally because of his robot parts which I don't think is how aggressor /victim works. I wonder how @SisOfNight saw it.
    I actually saw this robot as a good representation of a Pseudo-Aggressor (Gamma NT).
    He is an Aggressor in the way he obviously cuts and hurts her. It is Pseudo, because he is not doing so deliberately; the cutting is a result of his condition of which he has had no control over. This fact makes his state Victim-ish deep down. It is like the Robot who got created to hurt people, but in actuality does not want to. His outer shell is very "aggressive" in the way it easily cuts others, but on the inside he seems to be the true Victim of his condition. Hence Pseudo-Aggressor (likely LIE)...

    The woman may seem Victim at first glance, but I could see her actually being the ESI Aggressor. ESI is the "least" Aggressor of them all; but the way she is taking all the cuts and bruises while still "going for it", suggests she may be more "Aggressive" than she lets on. Notice how she has put her right arm on his shoulder, as to make him lean in to her. He is holding her, but I find there is a lack of true aggressive pull/force on his part for him to be a "real" Aggressor. His gaze is also not piercing or possessive, but rather contemplative and maybe even hesitant to some degree.

    Also, the woman is totally bare, naked, and her body language suggests she is open to his advances, no matter how much it may hurt. She is taking some pleasure in this.
    For some reason, this reminded me of the tough and delicate interplay of Gamma interactions; in regard to Pseudo-Aggressors with Aggressors, and the Fi ego type laying bare emotionally, so that the NT with his underdeveloped Feeling can dare to be more "open" themselves...

    In relation to "real-life": Gamma NTs are prone to develop this aggressive outer shell (often out of guarding their vulnerable Feeling, often because they have been hurt by others in the past, aka "I am this way not because I want to, but because others made me to"), which tends to cut people not brave/strong enough. It is only the Gamma SFs who truly "get" it, are not afraid and overlook that shell to delve into the core of the person.
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    oh good, i'm not crazy. thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post

    White middle class male objectifying Asian beauties via technology and dark fantasy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    I actually saw this robot as a good representation of a Pseudo-Aggressor (Gamma NT).
    He is an Aggressor in the way he obviously cuts and hurts her. It is Pseudo, because he is not doing so deliberately; the cutting is a result of his condition of which he has had no control over. This fact makes his state Victim-ish deep down. It is like the Robot who got created to hurt people, but in actuality does not want to. His outer shell is very "aggressive" in the way it easily cuts others, but on the inside he seems to be the true Victim of his condition. Hence Pseudo-Aggressor (likely LIE)...

    The woman may seem Victim at first glance, but I could see her actually being the ESI Aggressor. ESI is the "least" Aggressor of them all; but the way she is taking all the cuts and bruises while still "going for it", suggests she may be more "Aggressive" than she lets on. Notice how she has put her right arm on his shoulder, as to make him lean in to her. He is holding her, but I find there is a lack of true aggressive pull/force on his part for him to be a "real" Aggressor. His gaze is also not piercing or possessive, but rather contemplative and maybe even hesitant to some degree.

    Also, the woman is totally bare, naked, and her body language suggests she is open to his advances, no matter how much it may hurt. She is taking some pleasure in this.
    For some reason, this reminded me of the tough and delicate interplay of Gamma interactions; in regard to Pseudo-Aggressors with Aggressors, and the Fi ego type laying bare emotionally, so that the NT with his underdeveloped Feeling can dare to be more "open" themselves...

    In relation to "real-life": Gamma NTs are prone to develop this aggressive outer shell (often out of guarding their vulnerable Feeling, often because they have been hurt by others in the past, aka "I am this way not because I want to, but because others made me to"), which tends to cut people not brave/strong enough. It is only the Gamma SFs who truly "get" it, are not afraid and overlook that shell to delve into the core of the person.

    excellent interpretation


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