I don't get it.Originally Posted by Resonare
Posing half naked in underwear in some Type 3 looking apartment = Beta Duality?
I don't get it.
Posing half naked in underwear in some Type 3 looking apartment = Beta Duality?
YeahI don't get it.
Posing half naked in underwear in some Type 3 looking apartment = Beta Duality?
It's just to display a little bit of the male victim and female aggressor dynamic, Irina Shayk (LSI) appears possessive of Christiano Ronaldo (EIE) in their pictures.
The siblings Lucky Blue Smith and Pyper America Smith. I always getfrom their pictures although they are probably Alpha. They always seem to be arranged in some dual scenario, Lucky as the ST, Pyper as NF, and the other way around.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
This track, "In Distress". A$AP SLE and Gesaffelstein IEI. It's a pseudo-clean version? If you're at home turn up the volume, it's 1000% liiit.
The topics that he raps about are quintessential for Beta: authority, youth/growing up, establishing oneself, power, privacy, competition, one's place in society + reputation. The beats are haunting - almost odd - and thrive on flow/repetition and playing with those themes instead of variety (Ni over Ne). The lyrics themselves are intricate in a sense of making both sense while displaying detail - abundant congruency, that's Ti.
The first one SLE - IEI and the second one LSI -EIE, common scenes in Russian web
"The Commander easily calms down his dual by threatening to punish the offenders and to restore justice. Sometimes he puts The Lyricist to shame, teaches him lessons of courage and endurance. Together with such a strong personality The Lyricist is ready to overcome everything, believing in success. He needs moral support, without which his vital tonus decreases. He needs, too, a support of an authoritative partner, who understands instructions and rules, possesses penetrative skills, realism and practical intelligence."
So hawt
Always, I was just thinking on earlier in the thread, how is Hades and Persephone SLE-IEI? It's clearly an example of ILI-SEE duality from Hades. Persephone started as a sweet littl girl, but then she became pretty formidable. Hades is also really brooding and introverted while she's more flamboyant, and he used histo know what she'd become and that she'd end up really loving him and being dark and powerful together. Please don't use Greek myths if you barely know anything about them. Even if Persephone were IEI because of the milquetoast women stereotype (which is also sad and wrong) there's no way Hades would be SLE.
Persephone: The coming up and going down of ()
Hades: The hidden aspects ()
http://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/Persephone.html
http://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/Haides.html
Also, Persephone's name literally means Destroy-Slay. So milquetoast.
EIE/LSI duality in a nutshell:
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(If anyone doubts Jean Grey is EIE and Scott Summers is LSI, please give me a decent argument that I'll have to actually spend at least a couple minutes demolishing.)
It is? My mom lights up around EIE. That is more like her response to me.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I was going to reply to your ESE vs EIE thread but you closed it, genuinely I'm perplex by your confusion is it a case of Enneagram 2 being at the route cause of it? That's because E2 is generally ESE whilst E4 is EIE, with emotions much more self-absorbed and detached.See, I see the females as dramatically expressive in anway. She's completely submitting to him. He, rather is being possessive and initiating with
That's my interpretation anyway.
What makes you relate to being a two out of interest?
@Soupman I think most EIEs would tend to be E1 if they were honest about how they acted rather than how they wanted to act, and ESEs would be E3. In any case I don't think it's useful to mix Enneagram with this since I'm not sure the way it's normally asked is valid. But what I mean with the first thing is EIE are withdrawn negativists wth a ridiculous Superman/Paladin-like moral code that stops them from doing naything when they're unhealthy, and ESEs are like Wörk wörk (check out pictures of scholarship winners, valedictorians, Employees of the Month, etc.) rather than people who are fixated on helping the needy when they're unhealthy.
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I don't think many people that have actually watched X-men doubt Scott is LSI. Jean is textbook EIE as well, always liked her and Magneto growing up.
@Resonare So did I, although Magneto is really definitely LIE IMO (which is expected since Dr. X is ILE and heroes and nemesises are pretty much always quasi-identicals).
Mr.Darcy (LSI) and Elizabeth (EIE) from Pride and Prejudice (2005).
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@Der I appreciate your effort but that looks to me like IEI man/SLE woman...
This particular scene may make him look like a Victim type...
I'd say Darcy is either ILI or SLI,
Known for being "unfriendly" and "grim" in social situations and so forth, which is rather
And his "aristocratic" attitude – thinking their union is unfavorable because of different social standings (he is also likely So/Sp, which just "boosts" this attitude) speaks for SLI > ILI.
(Besides the fact he just doesn't show any signs of being
And I always just assumed Elizabeth was IEE-Fi.
(A free spirit, humanitarian, gregarious in social situations which speaks for ExFx, etc.
She is the "prejudiced" one, and
So, it is either Delta Duality or Mirage, IMO.
The Delta "vibe" in their interaction is much more obvious in this version:
^ In the second video, I find their
The way they just quietly continue walking after Elizabeth confesses she feels differently now, seems like
Maybe I am wrong, but I'd imagine more passion in that scene if they were Betas. Granted, the Victorian people were all rather restrained in their emotional expression, conventionally.
It is a whole other question whether Victorian people were mostly Delta. At least many of their views and conventions seem to point towards "Delta influences".
I've always thought Darcy was LII and Elisabeth was ESE..
(That was supposed to be "Like"... @Persephone)
@Der that's common in music and drama, but it's not duality.
This looks SLI(Hades)-IEE(Persephone). Very nice pic.
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EIE-Ni -- LSI-Ti
IEI-Ni -- SLE-Ti
SLI-IEE
Except that he is EII (EII-Fi) =P.Funny, ever since I was a wee kid watching this movie on TV at home, I'd always knew I wanted to marry someone like the prince Ashitaka lol. Gentle, peaceful, stoic, and kind.
Bitch plz, already found an RL version and he is IEI. Fix your knowledge hunty.
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It's hard to find a love through every shade of grey.
Nope. Too bad for you =P
This guy just struck me as a Beta NF so much, and the female is obviously Aggressor.
So, this could be either EIE-Ni with LSI-Se, or IEI-Ni with SLE.
I hope most "victims" don't just lay there like dead fish.
http://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-h...ish-during-sex
http://www.thedatereport.com/dating/...-do-it-better/
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
That is increasingly becoming my perception of the common understanding of Victimhood...where on earth is the gauntlet-throwing? The taunting? The demand for more and more action on the part of the Aggressor/Conqueror?I hope most "victims" don't just lay there like dead fish.
http://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-h...ish-during-sex
http://www.thedatereport.com/dating/...-do-it-better/
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My initial contribution, will try to find more.
@SisOfNight
Yes. I see her showing him how to be the kind of strong she wants; challenging him to accept the leadership role (pic 1), gain skills (2), and perceptions (4) of her social context so that she can feel him to be a worthy protector (3). I don't think victimhood is as 100% passive as it's sometimes made out to be...
EDIT: Just remembered that character was played by Zoe Saldana. Duh.
"All men must die; but we are not men." - Khaleesi
And that kids, is why you should never do meth. Not even once.
Well, on the Victimhood thing, it actually comes across to me a sort of exchange where the Victim actively sacrifices more explicit, physical power to gain implicit, mental and emotional power over the Aggressor and make them do things (like making a vacuum so the Aggressor is forced into it), although most people seem to be way, way more in-tune with
@Der, as portrayed in the movie, yes sure. In real life it might be questionable. re: A.B.M.
EIE and LSI.
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Interesting typing.
I actually think he is ILI and she is ESI, though...
There are too many scenes that display his strong.
And this scene struck me as the female ESI Aggressor with male ILI Victim dynamic.
@Cassandra, I agree that she looks ESI in that scene. I sometimes buy lunch at a University bistro from a woman who has taken an interest in me for unknown reasons (except that I type her as ESI*), and she and the woman in the video appear to act very, very similarly. It's like, observe, pause, then a little pounce. Observe again, pause, pounce.Interesting typing.
I actually think he is ILI and she is ESI, though...
There are too many scenes that display his strong
And this scene struck me as the female ESI Aggressor with male ILI Victim dynamic.
*Her interest has got to be platonic; I must be just someone nice to talk to, since she told me she is married, but it doesn't feel that way. She watches me as I interact with the other customers, who are mostly women. She seems incredibly practical and realistic.
I know that she's doing Fi/Se the way I'm doing Te/Ni, and I sometimes wish I could swap brains for a bit to see what that would be like.
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