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    P.S: I could see their interaction being Activity instead of Duality. But it still fits well into the Beta Duality theme, IMO.
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    Female Aggressor with male Victim.


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    Again, male Beta NF + female Beta ST.


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    This seems to be a representation of LSI so/sp + IEI sx/so romance. Not quite duality but close.


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    Lol, some of the pictures seem a bit too universal and apply to male-female in general, while others seem a bit too extreme.

    I've read a lot about the romantic styles recently and identified them in a few people I know, and I see the SLE - IEI pair as more like this...

    cd2c0972046f74eec7ae6d983598b831.jpg

    where the SLE isn't some club-wielding, barbaric rapist and the IEI isn't some easy tag-along slutbag.

    Just saying.
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    Female IEI imagining Duality, haha.

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    This is the cheesiest Beta Duality picture I have ever seen.
    Haha.

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    Aw this is adorable.

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    Why is the IEI always female and the SLE always male? Any pictures of the reverse just to mix things up a bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    Why is the IEI always female and the SLE always male? Any pictures of the reverse just to mix things up a bit?
    There are pictures of female Aggressor with male Victim... Just scroll up.

    But generally, the opposite is simply more common.
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    This could be an example of male Beta NF Victim (left) with a female Beta ST Aggressor (right). @chips and underwear

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    in real life

    (IEI-Fe + SLE)



    (IEI-Ni + SLE)


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    SLE male - IEI Female


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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    SLE male - IEI Female
    Impressive.

    I made it to the Romeo and Juliet part. hahah

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    Belmondo - F
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    SLE male - IEI Female

    He doesn't seem dramatically F to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    SLE male - IEI Female

    this is my favorite movie ever!

    enneagram 946/947

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der View Post


    The girl seems a bit more like an SEI to me, while the dude does seem to be SLE.
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    IEI and SLE couples are rare af apparently. Result type duals tend to not like/accept eachother as much as process type duals do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
    IEI and SLE couples are rare af apparently. Result type duals tend to not like/accept eachother as much as process type duals do.
    I would agree with the first sentence, but the second one confuses me. How did you arrive at this justification for IEI-SLE pairs to be rare? Why would Result types not like each other? Is that some observation you have made, or where does this idea come from?

    I believe Dual pairs are not that common in general, because most people tend to date a type that is more similar to their own in terms of strengths and weaknesses, as well as Jungian dichotomies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    I would agree with the first sentence, but the second one confuses me. How did you arrive at this justification for IEI-SLE pairs to be rare? Why would Result types not like each other? Is that some observation you have made, or where does this idea come from?

    I believe Dual pairs are not that common in general, because most people tend to date a type that is more similar to their own in terms of strengths and weaknesses, as well as Jungian dichotomies.
    it's from here: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ypes_by_Tsypin

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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
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    LIE, ENTj (Jack)
    The most common descriptions of his dual: "(unflattering and untrue descriptions omitted from this quote)" LIE seeks partners that won't limit his freedom, who have a lenient outlook on his "adventures", and who won't teach him how to live and control his every step. He often chooses EII, LSI, ILI, SEE, and LII as his partners. "

    Well, this is an incredible bummer. I've dated all of the above types (except SEE), including SLI's and IEI's, but never an ESI.

    I wonder if a knowledge of Socionics can overcome the Results orientation? We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
    Never seen this before. That explains why SLI always go for me.

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    Let's come back to Beta Duality...

    For IEI, it says:
    Often his "partners in life" are types LII, LSI, ESI, SLI, and ILE.

    Yes to all of those matches, I have seen them often, except for SLI. I have never known a long-term SLI-IEI pair before. I think this is a bit inaccurate. Other than that, it fits.


    For SLE, it says:
    The SLE is more interested in partners with whom he can, more or less on equal footing, discuss and resolve important "sensory" issues to himself – earning money, accumulation of material prosperity, arrangement of his "territory", building his career. Thus, he often chooses SEI and SLI as his partners from strategic considerations, and also gets interested in ESI, ILI, EIE, and LSI.

    This is pretty true, as far as I know. IME, most SLEs date ESI for the short-term and SEI for the long-term.


    All of this may be more or less true in regards to Result types, but even so, I find LSI-EIE Duality is even more rare than IEI-SLE Duality.
    So, I wonder how you would explain LSI-EIE Duality being more rare, even though they are Process types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    Let's come back to Beta Duality...

    For IEI, it says:
    Often his "partners in life" are types LII, LSI, ESI, SLI, and ILE.

    Yes to all of those matches, I have seen them often, except for SLI. I have never known a long-term SLI-IEI pair before. I think this is a bit inaccurate. Other than that, it fits.


    For SLE, it says:
    The SLE is more interested in partners with whom he can, more or less on equal footing, discuss and resolve important "sensory" issues to himself – earning money, accumulation of material prosperity, arrangement of his "territory", building his career. Thus, he often chooses SEI and SLI as his partners from strategic considerations, and also gets interested in ESI, ILI, EIE, and LSI.

    This is pretty true, as far as I know. IME, most SLEs date ESI for the short-term and SEI for the long-term.


    All of this may be more or less true in regards to Result types, but even so, I find LSI-EIE Duality is even more rare than IEI-SLE Duality.
    So, I wonder how you would explain LSI-EIE Duality being more rare, even though they are Process types.
    Well, being LIE, I can't explain it in a Ti fashion (I think Different. My LSI GF told me that I had the potential to be a great thinker, but I chose to take the low path and make money instead. I see it as having escaped a dry, useless academia to actively influence the real world. Ti vs Te. ), but I do know of two, possibly three couples whom I believe to be female LSI- male EIE.

    Of the two that I'm more sure of, one couple is together and one is not. In both cases, the female LSI's work as technical writers, and the male EIE's have been addicted to pain medicine and have had unsteady employment.

    Money may be a factor in whether they stay together. In the case of the couple which is still together, the EIE's father is rich (the EIE doesn't work - he had a motorcycle accident 20 years ago and the drugs he takes affect his attention and cause him to shake, altho he pursues his hobbies well enough) and his father bought them a house when they got married, and recently bought them another, larger house.

    In the case where the couple is not together, the EIE spent their money on pain killers and cheated on her. I asked the LSI if her EIE was dramatic, and didn't she need some drama in her life? She sarcastically said, "Oh, yes, like sit back and watch the show." I got the impression she got tired of the drama and of having her life destroyed every week.

    Those two examples don't look too good for this dual pair, but that is only two examples, and I may have typed them wrong. (The third couple, if I have typed them right, is happily married on a farm in Florida. She for sure is LSI, but I've only seen pictures of him.) In all fairness, someone said in chat that EIE's are either very, very bad or very, very good. My personal impression is that, regardless of anything else, EIE's are masterful at navigating social situations.

    It might be possible that, because EIE's are so good at social interactions and people, they create crises just to keep from being bored.

    Alternately, it may be that the stereotypes we associate with each type have some truth to them, and that the behaviors associated with the stereotypes can cause tremendous trouble for anyone, even in a relationship where the people "metabolize" information in a complementary fashion.

    There is a huge difference between understanding and actions.
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    Personally, I believe all it boils down to is this: ESEs are way more common than EIEs.

    So, naturally, an LSI is more likely going to end up with an ESE.
    Add to that the circumstance that Semi-Duality among Rational types tends to be more satisfying than among Irrationals.

    And that is why you'll see more LSI-ESE than LSI-EIE.
    (Perhaps the ESE being a Result type and not quickly enamored by the LII could play a factor here, as well.)
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    Anyone ever watched the Studio Ghibli film Princess Mononoke? This is some intense SLE female IEI male protagonist action going down. Funny, ever since I was a wee kid watching this movie on TV at home, I'd always knew I wanted to marry someone like the prince Ashitaka lol. Gentle, peaceful, stoic, and kind.






















    Ashitakaaaaaaa!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Anyone ever watched the Studio Ghibli film Princess Mononoke? This is some intense SLE female IEI male protagonist action going down. Funny, ever since I was a wee kid watching this movie on TV at home, I'd always knew I wanted to marry someone like the prince Ashitaka lol. Gentle, peaceful, stoic, and kind.
    I have seen the movie.

    I would agree with you on typing Mononoke as Beta ST. Personally, I lean towards LSI for her.
    Ashitaka... I tend to view him more as ESI. His endurance and force in combat showcase his Creative Se, while he does have a more "sensitive" side. Perhaps he is 9w8.
    Mononoke might be a Counterphobic 6... she seems very counter phobic. Maybe she is Sx/So 6w7.
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