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    Default why is sp/sx thread all about skeletons & plants?

    Seriously why?
    and what's the difference between sp/sx vs sx/sp?

    from the descriptions I read I lean more to sp/sx, but when I check the images and videos in each of sp/sx & sx/sp threads I liked sx/sp's images and videos more, at least they're more alive & don't have plants

    So, Is it just a taste issue? or is there something wrong in my understanding of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    do you happen to have a video about so/sx?
    Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suz View Post
    do you happen to have a video about so/sx?
    The same girl has a video on that stacking, too.


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    I think the OP of that thread just started posting images she liked, and it kinda stuck with people. There's much more diversity to the stacking than death + flowers, but that seems to be glossed over pretty quickly.

    One could make the argument that the death+rebirth theme is a sign of the sp/sx contra-flow anti-human philosophical outlook.

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    Some of the stuff in sp/sx thread repels me and some of it is ok. Just post what you feel represents sp/sx. Most of the stuff there is by agreement since the theme is being followed. If you don't like it start your own theme. I do that in sx/sp. I post what I want and sometimes I realize after it might have suited another stacking just as well, or even better, but it's pretty much personal expression and impressions. Sometimes for other stackings I do analyze a bit before posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I always assumed it was because sp/sx tends to be more grounded, earthy & mysterious + they are contra flow. The images I posted in that thread are mostly ones which were already floating around my tumbler & pintrest page btw. I posted the images that I was already drawn to (I have a skeleton/skull obsession, I collect them & my room/home/car is decorated with skulls, sun/moon/stars, pagan art, dream catchers & Buddha statues).
    I looked around and can't find one skull here. I thought I had at least one, if not two. Some of my walls are covered with African masks and I have a couple tasteful nude paintings. Lots of candles, incense burners, pyramids, vampire and dragon stuff, a Thai spirit house, crystals, stones, petrified wood that glitters, many tarot decks, witchy, faery stuf... etc... I have a dreamcatcher over my bed. By describing it, it probably sounds awful but people say my room in particular has really good vibes.

    I need to get a crystal skull. I think that will work.
    Last edited by Aylen; 09-30-2015 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Changed petrified "rocks" to "wood". I meant wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    for the elements part, I am not fire or wind, I may lean to water more earth
    but that's a bit subjective and depend on what characteristics you associate with each element

    as for the focus part, I think everyone focus on romantic relations, so I can't say I am sx based on this (for me non-romantic relations aren't so important, when I change school/work/home I don't usually think about mainlining the old relations)
    as for sp focusing on preserving things, I don't relate to this or don't think of it as preserving but I definitely don't care about gardening or taking care of clothing

    as for the syn vs contra flow I am not really sure how would they manifest but maybe contra flow since whenever I join a group it is as if I ruin the atmosphere

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    Quote Originally Posted by mu4 View Post
    So? this represents sp/sx? I like it anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I think the OP of that thread just started posting images she liked, and it kinda stuck with people.
    so people just follow her example without really understanding sp/sx?
    that's disappointing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    So? this represents sp/sx? I like it anyway
    Liches can cast death and decay. Go attack stormwind and bring them to their knees.

    Preservation is a symptom of decay, think about it that way.
    Sex is a symptom of death, think about it that way.

    What drives our desire to preserve and procreate, death and decay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Some of the stuff in sp/sx thread repels me and some of it is ok.
    you are sx/sx so even if some of the stuff in sp/sx thread repels you, I won't care

    Just post what you feel represents sp/sx. Most of the stuff there is by agreement since the theme is being followed. If you don't like it start your own theme. I do that in sx/sp. I post what I want and sometimes I realize after it might have suited another stacking just as well, or even better, but it's pretty much personal expression and impressions. Sometimes for other stackings I do analyze a bit before posting.
    I thought about this but I was lazier than searching for what represents sp/sx, but here is some images I like (not sure if they fit any stacking)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I always assumed it was because sp/sx tends to be more grounded, earthy & mysterious + they are contra flow. The images I posted in that thread are mostly ones which were already floating around my tumbler & pintrest page btw. I posted the images that I was drawn to (I have a skeleton/skull obsession, I collect them & my room/home/car is decorated with skulls, sun/moon/stars, pagan art, dream catchers & Buddha statues).
    even your avatar is decorated with a skull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I looked around and can't find one skull here. I thought I had at least one, if not two.
    remove the skin on your face and look at the mirror, then you'll find your missing skull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    remove the skin on your face and look at the mirror, then you'll find your missing skull



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    Quote Originally Posted by mu4 View Post
    Liches can cast death and decay. Go attack stormwind and bring them to their knees.

    Preservation is a symptom of decay, think about it that way.
    Sex is a symptom of death, think about it that way.

    What drives our desire to preserve and procreate, death and decay.
    explaining instincts as death and decay is really unique, but I see your point thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    as for sp focusing on preserving things, I don't relate to this or don't think of it as preserving but I definitely don't care about gardening or taking care of clothing
    come to think of it again I guess I preserve energy

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    So would anyone say what they think which stacking does the images best fit?

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    That style of fantasy will probably appeal to lots of different people of different stackings for different reasons, but I guess they all represent a certain mastery of the self that I would associate with a self-pres first type.

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    pls make more threads simo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    That style of fantasy will probably appeal to lots of different people of different stackings for different reasons, but I guess they all represent a certain mastery of the self that I would associate with a self-pres first type.
    I thought someone would say this, then how about this collection from both sp/sx & sx/sp threads?


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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    pls make more threads simo
    this will cost you money, how much are you willing to pay?

    but I am planning to post quotes of what makes me think I am sp/sx < I am lazy though

    btw, how would you differentiate between sp/sx vs sx/sp?

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    They all seem to be so last and most sp first. I relate the phoenix with sx first. The image of the girl could be an expression of self pity in any type but the way it is presented could be 4ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    pls make more threads simo
    The universe, in it's infinite wisdom, sent @Simo just in time for my favorite holiday season.



    Song sounds sx first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    for the elements part, I am not fire or wind, I may lean to water more earth
    but that's a bit subjective and depend on what characteristics you associate with each element

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    They all seem to be so last and most sp first.
    of course they are so last

    I relate the phoenix with sx first.
    I like phoenixes in general rather than this specific image

    The image of the girl could be an expression of self pity in any type but the way it is presented could be 4ish.
    I liked the quote more than the image to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    The universe, in it's infinite wisdom, sent @Simo just in time for my favorite holiday season.
    I have bad feeling about this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    There's something I don't like here but it is hard to describe

    btw, I guess I should explain how I see each element, I will use bleach's characters as example

    fire: grimmjow
    ipo7JKO.png

    wind: nel
    nell_tu_by_regular_keyser_soze.png


    earth: ulquiorra
    Ulquiorra_Cifer_Number_Revealed.png

    water: urahara
    Bleach_urahara0015.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    I have bad feeling about this
    And rightly so....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    There's something I don't like here but it is hard to describe
    Same


    btw, I guess I should explain how I see each element, I will use bleach's characters as example

    fire: grimmjow
    ipo7JKO.png

    wind: nel
    nell_tu_by_regular_keyser_soze.png


    earth: ulquiorra
    Ulquiorra_Cifer_Number_Revealed.png

    water: urahara
    Bleach_urahara0015.jpg
    Ugh, now I have to call my brother in to explain thist to me. grrr

    Couldn't you have used the elements for dummies version, "Avatar"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Ugh, now I have to call my brother in to explain thist to me. grrr

    Couldn't you have used the elements for dummies version, "Avatar"?
    Actually every time I plan to watch it, I get lazy and do something else

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    As promised, here are quoted descriptions of both (sp/sx & sx/sp) with my comments on them
    Source: https://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.com/five-stacks/

    Self-pres/Sexual

    This subtype, like the self-pres/social, is more typical of the depictions of type Five. The self-preservational instinct accentuates the self-contained, withdrawing tendencies of the Five. Fives of this subtype love their time alone with a passion, and pursue it more actively even than the other subtype of self-pres Five, although with the sexual instinct second, they often want to find time for intimates as well. On the down side, they have more disdain for people and little use for the social aspects of life. They want to be left alone or they want to share their inner world with their intimates. The intensity of the sexual instinct is reserved for their intimates and even there it is sporadic. The self-pres energy gives this subtype a solid foundation and some degree of practicality.


    These Fives are conflicted when it comes to experiencing and expressing emotions. They usually default to emotional repression and to detached intellectual analysis. This is a dynamic common to all Fives, but with the self-pres/sexual instinctual stacking, the balance of these forces is pretty precarious and it seems as though the scales are being constantly adjusted one way or another. As the social instinct is the least developed, the social arena gets the drier more intellectual approach almost by default.
    This seems very accurate for me

    Sexual/Self-pres

    This subtype has a lot in common the self-pres/sexual instinctual stacking. They experience many of the same internal conflicts surrounding relationships, the need for independence and emotional expression. The sexual/self-pres subtype differs however in being more intense, more counterphobic (1). They entertain more dark nihilistic ideas, ideas that most others don’t want to consider (2).


    With this subtype, a lot of energy revolves around the issue of boundaries (3). Sexual/self-pres Fives tend to forge strong connections quickly and deeply (4), but if they feel betrayed, begin to feel overwhelmed, or if they feel that the connection doesn’t serve their true needs, can seem to cut the connection precipitously and “go cold.” They have high standards for significant others. They must feel that they can share their emotions with a significant other without being judged. This is their private world that they share. Relationships can be difficult, because individuals of this subtype will still want their own space and alone time, while at other times will want intense connection. Because the social instinct is least developed, this subtype is not very concerned with how others perceive them (except their intimates). This subtype is deceptive in that they may not seem to be especially intense – until they are engaged in a conversation they find interesting. Then the intensity and emotion become apparent. The internal struggle for this subtype is similar to that of the self-pres/sexual, but more energized and volatile (5), and getting to know this subtype means getting to know that.
    1) I am not counterphobic
    2) "more dark nihilistic ideas" is too subjective to use for comparison. any examples?
    3) any examples of issue of boundaries?
    4) I don't think I forge strong connections quickly
    5) again "more energized and volatile" is too subjective to use for comparison. any examples?

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    i think i started that thread, but i can't remember. i don't expect what resonates with me as representing my sp/sx experience to be true for everybody else who identifies as sp/sx. if other sp/sx people independently post things that they feel capture the stacking it will give a more complete picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    If you want to be sp/sx then be sp/sx.
    you seem to be pissed off, but I don't really mind being sp/sx or sx/sp as long as I am so-last
    Not relating to pictures shouldn't deter you,
    Actually I was bored in my new assignment so I thought making a thread will help
    besides a lot of the pictures in the sp/sx thread are more linked to enneagram 4 sp/sx.
    so we have a lot of E4 sp/sx here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i think i started that thread, but i can't remember.
    why waste your time thinking about it when you can just go to the thread and see who started it

    i don't expect what resonates with me as representing my sp/sx experience to be true for everybody else who identifies as sp/sx. if other sp/sx people independently post things that they feel capture the stacking it will give a more complete picture.
    I can't argue with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Why do I seem pissed off? I'm not.
    ok good, and don't worry about it I just imagined you saying "If you want to be sp/sx then be sp/sx" with a funny pissed off face

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