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    Default What's chips DCNH subtype?

    I'm thinking probably C or H but I'm never quite sure which. I feel like reading the DCNH dichotomies and descriptions I'm closest to H overall. But I also feel like I'm very similar to ILE and some people even mistype me as such, so that might suggest C subtype since that one in particular strengthens Ne.
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    Doesn't anybody have any thoughts?
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    Definitely not normalizing, probably not dominant. I really don't have those wicked typing skillz to determine if you are C or H. If I am indeed LII I would most certainly be the creative subtype since I seem a bit more characteristic of ILEs and LSIs/SLEs than other LIIs because of the strengthened Ne and Se. You seem very similar to me except you seem more SEI-ish then LSI-ish, so I would lean towards harmonizing for you.
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    I think you are harmonizing. I am harmonizing.

    Also, questioning? Where did that one come from. I need source gimme
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    Whichever one gives you that ethical intuitive vibe.

    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     







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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Whichever one gives you that ethical intuitive vibe.
    agreed that chips has that vibe - it's made me wonder about EII for her in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    agreed that chips has that vibe - it's made me wonder about EII for her in the past


    same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    I think you are harmonizing. I am harmonizing.

    Also, questioning? Where did that one come from. I need source gimme
    I am the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Whichever one gives you that ethical intuitive vibe.
    Pfffft, you're of no help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddytextures View Post
    Definitely not normalizing, probably not dominant. I really don't have those wicked typing skillz to determine if you are C or H. If I am indeed LII I would most certainly be the creative subtype since I seem a bit more characteristic of ILEs and LSIs/SLEs than other LIIs because of the strengthened Ne and Se. You seem very similar to me except you seem more SEI-ish then LSI-ish, so I would lean towards harmonizing for you.
    In what ways do I seem SEI to you?

    I've had people tell me that before but never got a clear reason why.

    Also I noticed that you voted C for me in the poll. Did you mean to say H?


    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    I think you are harmonizing. I am harmonizing.

    Also, questioning? Where did that one come from. I need source gimme
    Let's harmonize together!

    What made you decide on H for yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    In what ways do I seem SEI to you?

    I've had people tell me that before but never got a clear reason why.

    Also I noticed that you voted C for me in the poll. Did you mean to say H?




    Let's harmonize together!

    What made you decide on H for yourself?
    I keep my distance from people and my natural disposition is to adapt around other people in order that we might work together well. If I come up to resistance I adjust my distance to a level that suits playing their game so they'll play mine. I try not to come out of an interaction empty handed, and this seems to be a good way to do it. I lack a sense of how to relate to others in a manner that will get results because of poor Fi, so harmonizing with them is my strategy instead(i.e. neurotically counterbalancing myself in order to play games with people).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    Pfffft, you're of no help.
    Well, I guess I really can't be because I do not find the concept of DCNH useful for myself. I said this before, and don't like to offend people, but I think it convolutes the theory to keep adding subtypes. It does not really do anything, for me, in furthering my understanding of function use. I know it helps others though and could be an explanation as to why I see you as more ethical now than I did a few months ago.

    I might be Te polr but I think I use it, adequately enough, to get by in the real world. I know I primarily process everything through my base function so personally I don't need another theory to tell me I am not a complete idiot because my Te is not completely lacking. Nor do I need it to understand my strong and weak functions. Adding subtypes can lead to mistyping, imo.

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    I like subtypes, but like types themselves, I don't go by the books and sort of have my own ideas.

    I think here's the thing: psychological types theory always has to strike a balance between getting someone's overall consciousness accurately depicted and extracting the most salient structural classifications of their overall philosophy of cognition.
    I find all too often traditional temperament theory is insufficient to capture the variation between cognitive philosophy and attitudinal temperament.

    For those who read Jung, by the way, in great detail, he didn't just describe the more cognitive aspects of extroversion -- he also included all the other things, e.g. sociability, tendency to more easily express affect, and so on.

    So I find it really helps separate these things out -- DCNH is a little more temperament-related, and less philosophy of cognition, at least in how I conceive of it.

    If you want, why not just rank the degree you relate to each? I would say between C and H you seem to be more H.
    But then again this is just based on distant impression.
    I think I could pass for C sometimes, but overall I think H>C for myself if I have to be honest.
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    I could never decide between C and H myself: I probably favour/ed Harmonizing, and think you seem very similar to me, so that is what I would go with. But I find the DCNH subtypes to be poorly defined and an amalgamation of information elements in such a way that identifying with specific behaviours is rather difficult.
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    From our brief interactions over this forum I'm leaning to Harmonizing subtype. You seem to be intent on keeping the discussion/conversation in the flow.

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    @Muddytextures You still didn't answer why you see me like an SEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    @Muddytextures You still didn't answer why you see me like an SEI.
    I was idle lol. Just vibes really, you seem resemblant of a merry ethical type such as SEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddytextures View Post
    I was idle lol. Just vibes really, you seem resemblant of a merry ethical type such as SEI.
    Ok, fair enough. You aren't the only person to have suggested that.
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    I found this on Socionics Britannica School's Facebook page .

    I think this helps clear things up a bit.

    SUBTYPE DICHOTOMIES
    Tense – a feature drawing personalities to tense situations; predisposition to danger, facing challenges, activity. Trait shared by Creative & Dominant subtypes.
    Balance – feature withdrawing personalities from tense situations; predisposition to balance, inner control. Trait shared by Normalizing & Harmonizing subtypes.

    Definitely balance >> tense. Avoid tense situations and danger whenever possible. Like some challenges and activity but also want to be able to pull myself away from them and just relax for awhile. Balance and inner control for me, is a must.

    Initial – feature orientating personalities to easily undertaking new activities; predisposition to being at one with what comes to you. Trait shared by Creative & Harmonizing subtypes.
    Terminal – feature orientating personalities to bringing whatever has begun to completion; predisposition for controlling one’s world. Trait shared by Dominant & Normalizing subtypes.

    Probably more initial overall with some terminal in there too. I'm usually enthusiastic about new undertakings, tend to go with the flow. Yet I do like to finish what I start. Feel bad when I start personal projects and then don't get around to finishing them. Not much need to control the external world but to control the inner world, it's important.

    Grouping (connecting) – feature orienting a personality towards social suggestibility; results in increased agreeability. Trait shared by Dominant & Harmonizing subtypes.
    Utilitarian (ignoring) – feature orienting personalities towards utilitarian behaviour; focus on one’s personal interests. Trait shared by Creative & Normalizing subtypes.

    Both, but probably more connecting. People tend to see me as a more sociable, expressive version of LII. I tend to towards high agreeability as well. But I can also focus intensely on my own interests to the detriment of what's going on around me.

    So, Harmonizing subtype it is. H > N > C > D
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