I'm SLI now

[Muddy]

Just announcing I'm typing myself as SLI-Si now. I didn't consider SLI seriously before because I assumed I was an NT type due to my logical and contemplative nature, but I now realize that isn't an exclusive trait of NTs. I'm too Ne/Si valuing to be ILI and I'm too irrational to be LII. I get along super easy with Ne-doms and I could definitely see it as my dual seeking function. It seems I also have the face of an SLI as well.

So comrades, delta is my home now.

Edit: Yeap, you guessed it, I'm still not certain. Just consider me IxTx until there is a solid confirmation for m type.

[Pink]

Just announcing I'm typing myself as SLI-Si now. I didn't consider SLI seriously before because I assumed I was an NT type due to my logical and contemplative nature, but I now realize that isn't an exclusive trait of NTs. I'm too Ne/Si valuing to be ILI and I'm too irrational to be LII. I get along super easy with Ne-doms and I could definitely see it as my dual seeking function. It seems I also have the face of an SLI as well.

So comrades, delta is my home now.

Heh, kind of figured.. I mean, your username is "MuddyTextures"

[Narc]

[Aylen]

I will remain cautiously optimistic that you do not change your type again soon. I have prematurely congratulated people, too many times, since I joined, so remain a little bit skeptical. I won't be fooled again.

Let play superego!


@TJay I like what I see again and your type on my list has not changed since I posted it.

[ConcreteButterfly]

congrats. I wouldn't rule out LII for you though you remind me alot of my LII friends.SLIs seem more blunt and concise than you.

[Muddy]

congrats. I wouldn't rule out LII for you though you remind me alot of my LII friends.SLIs seem more blunt and concise than you.

Some people see me as LII, some say ILI, others say SLI, and even LSI.

Maybe I'm just all the IxTx types mixed into one bag.

[DEAD]

Maybe I'm just all the IxTx types mixed into one bag.

Lol. A weekly schedule of IxTx:

"On Monday I am gonna be ISTp. Tuesday INTj. Wednesday ISTj. Thursday INTp."

[Muddy]

Lol. A weekly schedule of IxTx:

"On Monday I am gonna be ISTp. Tuesday INTj. Wednesday ISTj. Thursday INTp."

Lol its like choosing which outfit you want to wear today.

My behavior and traits seem to vary depending on the circumstances and my self-esteem. Some days I want nothing more then to get along with everybody, other times I feel like fucking shit up. With some people I'm serious and to the point while with others I'm a complete goof ball. Sometimes I'm critical and other times submissive and empathetic. Different people make me act different ways. By default I simply keep social interaction to a minimum and just do my own things.

[Skepsis]

ILIs can make great use of Si, it is just something that is often less preferred than imaginative wanderings and contemplations. They can also make good use of Ne. I find a lot of humor is Ne base and it is fun to use sometimes. Ne aids in idea generation.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

[Galen]

Lol its like choosing which outfit you want to wear today.

My behavior and traits seem to vary depending on the circumstances and my self-esteem. Some days I want nothing more then to get along with everybody, other times I feel like fucking shit up. With some people I'm serious and to the point while with others I'm a complete goof ball. Sometimes I'm critical and other times submissive and empathetic. Different people make me act different ways. By default I simply keep social interaction to a minimum and just do my own things.

Congrats, you're every other neurotypical human being.

[Myst]

Congrats, you're every other neurotypical human being.

His last sentence too? And I don't relate to some of his things said here.

You're generalizing so much.


@Muddytextures

What seems relevant to type in your post is the Ne/Si valuing only and the IxTx. I'm not trying to type you beyond that tho'.

[yeves]

Some days I want nothing more then to get along with everybody, other times I feel like fucking shit up.

This isn't anything like Si'Ne--Fiiiii

Try the Se quadra.

[Muddy]

I'll just play it safe and resign to being IxTx until there is a solid consensus for my type. I could still be SLI but its seems that others and myself are not fully convinced. I really don't want to be "that guy" who constantly changes types.

[Sol]

Just consider me IxTx until there is a solid confirmation for m type.

You may try to check impressions from people of different types in my actors and video bloggers lists (in signature) - to decide wich quadra gives you more feelings of trust, humaneness and sympathy. Then things will become easier for you to understand own type.

[nondescript]

I'll just play it safe and resign to being IxTx until there is a solid consensus for my type. I could still be SLI but its seems that others and myself are not fully convinced. I really don't want to be "that guy" who constantly changes types.

Seeing how you're uncertain of N / S...that directly points me to a j type-that is a type who uses some kind of F / T function as a dom. On a further inspection, you do seem like IT-therefore considerably narrowing down your type. All that is left is to determine N and S and I'll do it thusly:

Tell the first thing that comes to your mind when you see this(or the first few):

peach.jpg

[Muddy]

That it is a fresh peach?

[Narc]

Congrats, you're every other neurotypical human being.

Except himself?

[nondescript]

That it is a fresh peach?

And nothing else?

[DEAD]

And nothing else?

The peach is anything you want it to be. You shape its destiny. You can eat it. You can use it as a rolling pin, you can use it as a juggling ball, but it still serves the same purpose. As an object; an object of desire.

[Muddy]

And nothing else?

Other then the thought of eating it, yeah thats pretty much it.

[nondescript]

Other then the thought of eating it, yeah thats pretty much it.

No desire, no buttocks on the right, nothing?

Yeah, I'd say you're LSI.

[Muddy]

Well, it would explain why I value Ti>Te (Te fits perfectly as the ignoring function) but yet think of myself as a logical Ni dom, and why I relate to delta quadra and its types the least (excluding SLI) rather than alpha. It would also explain why I don't see ESEs/SEEs being my duals nor conflictors. (The few SEEs I've known seem as if they get creeped out by me, possibly supervision). I'm still skeptical however. I can't really say I am very confident with Se. I also seem get along rather well with the Ne doms I've known. On the flip side I've got along with Fe doms as well.

If I were LSI that we have to mean I would be Ne polr. I've never really thought of it as my polr, but I am rather fearful of unknown places and unknown people to the point where I just stick to being bored at home. I have also been really shit at things like creative art or writing stories out of thin air. Care to give examples of how Ne polr manifest in LSIs?

[Sol]

Care to give examples of how Ne polr manifest in LSIs?

You'll have more use from IR for typing. The problem here - correct examples.
About functions you need to know is it strong/weak, valued/non-valued. Other things are rather doubtful and not sharp in model A.

[Muddy]

This is how I view my functions:

Ti- Very strong, not excessively valued but more than Te
Te- Kinda strong, not valued much at all
Ni: Strong and valued
Ne: unsure
Si: sufficiently strong, moderate value
Se: unsure
Fi: Slightly weak, on the fence with value
Fe: Very weak, also on the fence with value

Some I almost certain I value Ti over Te, which means I'd also have to value Fe over Fi even though I am not completely adverse to Fi. I am very much on the border with Se/Ni vs Ne/Si.

[Myst]

No desire, no buttocks on the right, nothing?

Yeah, I'd say you're LSI.

Lol just from that how?

Well, it would explain why I value Ti>Te (Te fits perfectly as the ignoring function) but yet think of myself as a logical Ni dom, and why I relate to delta quadra and its types the least (excluding SLI) rather than alpha. It would also explain why I don't see ESEs/SEEs being my duals nor conflictors. (The few SEEs I've known seem as if they get creeped out by me, possibly supervision). I'm still skeptical however. I can't really say I am very confident with Se. I also seem get along rather well with the Ne doms I've known. On the flip side I've got along with Fe doms as well.

If I were LSI that we have to mean I would be Ne polr. I've never really thought of it as my polr, but I am rather fearful of unknown places and unknown people to the point where I just stick to being bored at home. I have also been really shit at things like creative art or writing stories out of thin air. Care to give examples of how Ne polr manifest in LSIs?

Did you mean you are confident in Se just not very confident?

I'm not worried about unknown places myself, I don't think that's what Ne PoLR is about, you can handle that part with Se creative alright. For me Ne PoLR is more like I don't want/care to look at potential that's not really obviously able to be materialized.

This is how I view my functions:

Ti- Very strong, not excessively valued but more than Te
Te- Kinda strong, not valued much at all
Ni: Strong and valued
Ne: unsure
Si: sufficiently strong, moderate value
Se: unsure
Fi: Slightly weak, on the fence with value
Fe: Very weak, also on the fence with value

Some I almost certain I value Ti over Te, which means I'd also have to value Fe over Fi even though I am not completely adverse to Fi. I am very much on the border with Se/Ni vs Ne/Si.

Well you'll have to figure out the Ne/Se thing. How exactly do you get along with Ne base types? ILE and IEE alike? How are you sure you value Ni beyond them being strong? In initial post you said you value Ne/Si instead. Also Ti valuing? Explain these a bit more please. Currently the type with the least amount of contradictions would be LII for you but that typing requires use of some unverified assumptions too...

[Muddy]

I am tying myself in a knot here so let me start fresh.

I think I am Ti valuing because I prefer it over Te. I usually care more about having a firm understanding of something then its usefulness. However at the same time I relate a lot to Ni as a base function but I can't have both Ti and Ni as my ego functions. I am very clearly a logical type so IEI isn't an option. What do think is more likely, confusing HA Ni as the base function or demonstrative Ni?

My creative function, well that is up for grabs. It is definitely not Fe because I am bad with Fe. Te is also unlikely, as I said before I don't really value Te and it fits better as the ignoring function. So that leaves us with Ne vs Se. I feel its important to keep an open mind about things and to not be rigid although I tend to dismiss a lot of opportunities more than I'd like too. I often feel very uncomfortable doing things I've never done before. Nothing makes me more self-conscious than being the inexperienced new guy. With Se I often feel the thirst for action although I usually do this in less tangible forms, such as playing online shooters or other online competitive games. I feel much less comfortable using Se in the real world.

I think I have got along with Ne doms rather well, although I've never actually lived with one. I can't be certain the IEEs I have in mind were actually IEE, but I am 100% certain my cousin is ILE-Ne. I haven't really seen him too many times and just visit him every now and then to play some games and watch movies. All I can say is the his behavior seems a bit strange to me but I just ignore it and have try to have a good time.

[Myst]

I am tying myself in a knot here so let me start fresh.

I think I am Ti valuing because I prefer it over Te. I usually care more about having a firm understanding of something then its usefulness. However at the same time I relate a lot to Ni as a base function but I can't have both Ti and Ni as my ego functions. I am very clearly a logical type so IEI isn't an option. What do think is more likely, confusing HA Ni as the base function or demonstrative Ni?

My creative function, well that is up for grabs. It is definitely not Fe because I am bad with Fe. Te is also unlikely, as I said before I don't really value Te and it fits better as the ignoring function. So that leaves us with Ne vs Se. I feel its important to keep an open mind about things and to not be rigid although I tend to dismiss a lot of opportunities more than I'd like too. I often feel very uncomfortable doing things I've never done before. Nothing makes me more self-conscious than being the inexperienced new guy. With Se I often feel the thirst for action although I usually do this in less tangible forms, such as playing online shooters or other online competitive games. I feel much less comfortable using Se in the real world however.

I think I have got along with Ne doms rather well, although I've never actually lived with one. I can't be certain the IEEs I have in mind were actually IEE, but I am 100% certain my cousin is ILE-Ne. I haven't really seen him too many times and just visit him every now and then to play some games and watch movies. All I can say is the his behavior seems a bit strange to me but I just ignore it and have try to have a good time.

I don't think strictly sticking to online games qualifies as Se in ego. But I don't really want to link it to an IE or function position here. Your worry about lack of experience if you want to prepare for it by researching I would attribute to your enneagram 5. If you are so sure on ignoring Te then now focus on why you said you are Ne/Si valuing yet talk about Se and Ni use here? What seems weird about the ILE from your POV?

[Muddy]

What seems weird about the ILE from your POV?

Outspokenness, attention seeking behavior, no self-awareness, shit living conditions.

[Myst]

Outspokenness, attention seeking behavior, no self-awareness, shit living conditions.

And what about the Ne/Si valuing?

[Muddy]

And what about the Ne/Si valuing?

Generally I'm moderately appreciative when others provide Si and I also respect the originality and carefree nature of Ne doms.

I admire Si egos in how they are willing to improve the physical atmosphere and their skills with cooking and they like, but I find excessive focus on the surroundings somewhat annoying and discussing health topics is rather redundant to me. With Ne I admire how Ne egos can shake things up and make things more fun and interesting. Basically I like how they are able to break boredom.

[Myst]

Generally I'm moderately appreciative when others provide Si and I also respect the originality and carefree nature of Ne doms.

I admire Si egos in how they are willing to improve the physical atmosphere and their skills with cooking and they like, but I find excessive focus on the surroundings somewhat annoying and discussing health topics is rather redundant to me. With Ne I admire how Ne egos can shake things up and make things more fun and interesting. Basically I like how they are able to break boredom.

Hm ok you'll have to understand the IEs deeper to pick between Ne/Si and Ni/Se valuing. Though LII fits with what you've said here

[Muddy]

Its looking like I'm either a very timid and intellectual LSI or a bloodthirsty LII. Quadra wise I do relate alot with alpha and beta, followed by gamma and lastly delta. I do have an innate hate for bossy behavior, which might be Se polr. Back in my childhood I always got really angry when my parents forced me to do chores. At the seem time however I do seem somewhat drawn to certain elements of Se, not so much wealth and power in society but more along the lines of sowing chaos and destruction. The type I seem to be the most conflict prone with at least in real life is LSE, which would be strange if I were LII since mirage is supposed to be a rather positive relation. SLEs on the other hand seem to be hit or miss. Some can be entertaining to be around, while others make me want to stay far, far away.

[Muddy]

My experiences with the types:

ILE: Strange but fun to be around
SEI: Pleasant company but numb my brain cells
LII: Good conversationists but often too formal
ESE: Warm and caring but tax my energy
LSI: Easy to get along with but often believe in strange things
EIE: Caring and helpful but a bit manipulative
IEI: Pleasant but I wouldn't want to live with one
SLE: Amusing to watch at a distance
ILI: Don't know any personally
SEE: Bizarre
LIE: Knowledgeable and helpful but sometimes assholes
ESI: Good company but too controlling sometimes
EII: Ok but too squeamish for my taste
LSE: Bossy and full of conflicts
SLI: Cool and dull at the same time
IEE: Fun but drain away all my energy

[Myst]

Its looking like I'm either a very timid and intellectual LSI or a bloodthirsty LII. Quadra wise I do relate alot with alpha and beta, followed by gamma and lastly delta. I do have an innate hate for bossy behavior, which might be Se polr. Back in my childhood I always got really angry when my parents forced me to do chores. At the seem time however I do seem somewhat drawn to certain elements of Se, not so much wealth and power in society but more along the lines of sowing chaos and destruction. The type I seem to be the most conflict prone with at least in real life is LSE, which would be strange if I were LII since mirage is supposed to be a rather positive relation. SLEs on the other hand seem to be hit or miss. Some can be entertaining to be around, while others make me want to stay far, far away.

Chaos in the Se way or the Ne way? Why/how do you conflict with LSE?

[Muddy]

Chaos in the Se way or the Ne way? Why/how do you conflict with LSE?

Se, like explosions and stuff. This is more or less something deeply hidden in my psych however and I don't actually go around destroying people's property or anything like that, although I can't deny that I feel the urge to sometimes. I conflict with LSEs a lot because they often pull me into doing things I have no interest in doing. Even when I comply and do what they want me to do they still end up criticizing me for not doing it "the right way". They seem too care much about details that seem irrelevant to me. I am very work adverse while LSEs seem to thrive in it. The rough attitude many of them have really puts me off.

Edit: Yo myst, I think it would better if we just stick to the other thread. Sorry for the shit thread folks.

[Myst]

Se, like explosions and stuff. This is more or less something deeply hidden in my psych however and I don't actually go around destroying people's property or anything like that, although I can't deny that I feel the urge to sometimes. I conflict with LSEs a lot because they often pull me into doing things I have no interest in doing. Even when I comply and do what they want me to do they still end up criticizing me for not doing it "the right way". They seem too care much about details that seem irrelevant to me. I am very work adverse while LSEs seem to thrive in it. The rough attitude many of them have really puts me off.

Hmm ok. Btw I did respond to you in your other type thread: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1098955

And I forgot to mention but in your video.. well I'm not big on VI but if a gun was held at my head, I'd say INTx > ISTx.

[nondescript]

Lol just from that how?




Did you mean you are confident in Se just not very confident?

I'm not worried about unknown places myself, I don't think that's what Ne PoLR is about, you can handle that part with Se creative alright. For me Ne PoLR is more like I don't want/care to look at potential that's not really obviously able to be materialized.




Well you'll have to figure out the Ne/Se thing. How exactly do you get along with Ne base types? ILE and IEE alike? How are you sure you value Ni beyond them being strong? In initial post you said you value Ne/Si instead. Also Ti valuing? Explain these a bit more please. Currently the type with the least amount of contradictions would be LII for you but that typing requires use of some unverified assumptions too...

Of course I did! Irrational preferences should be tested with visual tools. Paintings, objects, weird stick structures etc. Why? Because there is no why(at least no rational why hence irrational preferences) to them. You really should test their perception here instead of thoughts. And even if we simply must analyse(we really don't)...we should look for experiental vs conceptual answers / line of perception. And muddy doesn't strike me as very conceptual...ymmv ofc!

[Myst]

Of course I did! Irrational preferences should be tested with visual tools. Paintings, objects, weird stick structures etc. Why? Because there is no why(at least no rational why hence irrational preferences) to them. You really should test their perception here instead of thoughts. And even if we simply must analyse(we really don't)...we should look for experiental vs conceptual answers / line of perception. And muddy doesn't strike me as very conceptual...ymmv ofc!

And why LSI over SLI?

[nondescript]

And why LSI over SLI?

Because he himself is confused about S vs N. Or at least he is more uncertain of it than he is of T vs F. And it's a common knowledge that a person can and will get confused about his middle two functions(because there is more clarity between Dom < - > Sugg than there is between Cr < - > HA). I switched to Jung, but whatever. I value truth, not necessarily going by the book. To be completely frank, rules, while necessary, ANNOY me to no avail! Come to think of it, why do I constantly need to explain why I did something(forgot the word lol)?

[Myst]

Because he himself is confused about S vs N. Or at least he is more uncertain of it than he is of T vs F. And it's a common knowledge that a person can and will get confused about his middle two functions(because there is more clarity between Dom < - > Sugg than there is between Cr < - > HA). I switched to Jung, but whatever. I value truth, not necessarily going by the book. To be completely frank, rules, while necessary, ANNOY me to no avail! Come to think of it, why do I constantly need to explain why I did something(forgot the word lol)?

I see, well sure that's a heuristic that I've seen used before.