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Um this is a little freaky (and idk, probably not type related) but i was just looking at this pepper spray at the store a few days ago, wondering whether it actually works. I dont recommend testing these this way though. That guy is lucky it wasn't too strong.Originally Posted by Sol
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
I don't see IEI for her. IEI seem more languid, than she appears, in their videos. She looks very present and hyper. I liked her on "Supernatural"l but this particular youtube video was like nails on a chalkboard for me.
oh right! Wrong assumption! He isn't as popular outside gaming circles as say pewds. Now that guy is just hyperactive and stuff. Too hyperactive for my taste-the same could apply to AngryJoe. Activity is always good, but have some grace, for mercy's sake!
Nice collection. Where the SEE girls?
1. How will I understand what they're saying? I mean it's not only about how they say something, it's about what they say as well. It's not only with Russian, but if someone is speaking about clothes or about furniture or things like that, I'll space out. No I won't. I'll just shut the video down .
2. How can I trust your evaluations? So that I don't get a wrong vibe about a person who is actually not the type it's written. That's just it with socionics-there is no official body to trust.
3. I just realised that internet is so stupid. I don't have the willpower to watch stupid stuff tyvm! Unless it interests me.
In the list of actors are many English ones and you may find their interviews on the video hosting. Some bloggers are English too.
You may switch off the sound where they speak about furniture. You'll loose voice intonations wich may be useful for impressions.if someone is speaking about clothes or about furniture or things like that, I'll space out. No I won't. I'll just shut the video down
You better to be a man and hold when they talk about clothes or even weather.
It's your subjective choice, as noone today has objective proof he types good. You may try and maybe you'll get something useful from this. Or you may type people yourself only. Or use examples from someone other.How can I trust your evaluations?
Note. % of accuracy in my bloggers list is higher than in actors list for people not in galleries, as actors list was compiled for 8 years and needs revision.
This stuff is suitable to check your type.I don't have the willpower to watch stupid stuff tyvm!
He also self-identifies as an introvert. Doesn't necessarily support ILE, but ILEs can come off as socially introverted. But maybe better for him would be saying that he devalues Fi.
For him, I'd say a very cynical Ti-ILE, shaped by a poor family situation growing up.
Not attempting Enneagram.
His body language suggests being an extrovert. He makes wild gestures while speaking, tends to use the whole arm, is active, energetic, and a bit disorganized behind-the-scenes.
In his "DeFranco Does" tours, he travels abroad to speak in a theater in front of large crowds of his fans. He seems to enjoy their attention and focus on him. Makes me think Fe-HA, because being liked seems important to him at least subconsciously.
He may enjoy talking with people who like him as any normal human, for whom he's authority, who are source of his income. And he needs to express good mood to be pleasant.In his "DeFranco Does" tours, he travels abroad to speak in a theater in front of large crowds of his fans. He seems to enjoy their attention
Well, it's your typing list. The judgment of another American who understands his frames of reference is that he is ILE, but you don't have to think so.
Not specifically a vlogger but Charlotte, the British video journalist girl for Vice is one of the best examples of IEE-Ne ever.
A great example of an IEE's weird lapse in Fi is the part in the first one where she tells the Korean girl getting the surgery to look white that she still doesn't look white, lol.
I promise I'm not obsessed with Asia, I just watch hundreds of documentaries a year and these are the ones I've seen her in lol.
someday the grapes will be wine
and someday you will be mine
EII-Ne 2w3 - 9w1 - 7w8 so/sx
Trisha Paytas - mb ESFP
Hodgetwins - mb ESFP both
Vitaly Zdorovetskiy - ENFP, ESFP, ...
Onision - mb INFJ
Charlotte - mb ENTJ
This list is not bad for the limited display of what it is. There is a consistency in what you have and I find a connection with the Gammas you present, yet there's some clear distance with the other quadras. The young INTP guy reminds me a lot of myself, and I have typed INTP in MBTI since young. The Gammas seem to have this solid engaging presence unlike the Deltas, but Fi valuing where I can tell there's personal connection sought, a more natural flow of emotion and seriousness than the Fe types that is albeit much more reserved, and valid information shared. Watching the SEEs they are very engaging, likeable, they have this brotherliness in friendliness, reminding me of a few characters who stirred something up in me quite fun and comforting, who took a liking to me, while the Deltas you post have the Fi but seem too internally scattered in some way I don't relate to, perhaps too externally focused on imaginary visions. The distant visions I have all the time, but they're not based on the external which I'd creatively relate to outside reality and people by. They're private thinking visions, they don't come out like they do your example of Delta's directions of expression. The connection is not as strong in how they seem to engage, perhaps they don't come across as present and down-to-earth in some internal sensing value that's Si. The Gammas vs the Alphas have their stark differences by which I see myself nowhere in the latter in these examples, nor the Betas. The Fe types are clearly more focused on presentation, while the SEE presence took me by surprise and was very warming. Interesting theory so far, but I have yet to test its entire validity.
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On the title page "[English]" link leads to English section. In case of problems, reloading of a page may help sometimes.
The list on the site needs hard revision. I recommend to trust more to versions in galleries as they passed the procedure.
Conceptualizing this out more, watching the information elements in these videos, I would say that your approach to typing is pretty clear, very discernible so far. I can see what you're aiming for and emphasizing in your typings, but don't know what to make of it so far or how to relate it to reality, as it still comes across as a small prototype theory.
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If you have interest to my versions would be good you checked for several people of every type (>=5 men, >=5 women) with >=3 video-interviews for every typed example among those, interviews should be >10 min each. If during this checking you'll agree with most my opinions, then we have chance to have typing match on not bad level. Also you may train your typing skills on my examples to make the match higher.
I made two cross-typers match experiments by videos on other forum, - they allow to identify typing matches between typers. If I'll gather >16 English-speaking video-bloggers (not typed previously on forums, wich give me sure opinions about their types, have channels with materials of acceptable quality for typing) then I may do similar experiment here to understand how bad things are. As I find such bloggers rather randomly, to prepare the experiment may take a time - a year or less/more.
> I can see what you're emphasizing in your typings, but don't know what to make of it so far or how to describe it.
Intuitive impressions you get from nonverbal behavior may be described by words in ordinary descriptions of functions, types, intertype relations. You just feel these traits directly, by intuitive associations. You may feel traits of different types - so you need to choose wich side is stronger and more correct.
As any method this one needs training to make such associations more clear and stable, less controversing to theory (I use only basic theory, no doubtful RD). You may mistake and later change the opinion about types after you get more data and typing skills become better. As intuitive-nonverbal method does not need a close contact, it may be used to type any people near you IRL and then check how your intuitive version correlates with their behavior.
As method is based on intuition it goes unconsciously, so I can't describe details. To describe by words nonberbal behavior is hard also. I get impressions wich are rather close to words in descriptions of types and IR.How would you personally describe the Si/Ne valuing presence I refer to in my initial post?
For example, Si types give associations with tender care, comfort, cleanness, Ne - those who have hunger or seek such things. Ne associations - the ones who understand things, have more clear eyes, not such smoky as Ni types. Those people should not give significant associations with Se and Ni types, or I keep doubts. Plus associations general for sensory or intuitive types, like intuitive ones think more complexly than me, have more living imagination, but are less linked to their body, clumsy. How this fits to impressions from 2nd function (Si can combine only with Fe/Te, etc). Something like. How a version fits to IR is also checked, something from types descriptions related to model A and other.
We know there are many people who fit the ESTJ type description, but you don't have a firm basis on relating to these people, as you have extremely little examples of ESTJ, so I don't trust. I could say I'm unique in many ways and base Socionics typology around making everyone different from me. It sounds like a personal thing for you, not something I'm fully interested in as a new theory. I am interested in different theories of classifying relationship strength and potential.