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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    Hey, something I relate to. How about that. Everything else is maybe, but probably not. Actually, I'll say the conferences one is possibly accurate. Not sure. Charles Bukowski is a probably yes. Again, everything is probably no.

    Oh yeah, the kid with the poster. Yeah. Cool. Everything else is eh. I'll look for something to contribute. Oh yes. I got it. No. Garfield will not work. Uh. Ergh. Yeah, it's taking too much effort. I'm done.
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    Too funny how well this fits the hot ESI Sp/Sx stereotype.




    And here's the SEE version, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Too funny how well this fits the hot ESI Sp/Sx stereotype.




    And here's the SEE version, haha.

    Nice. Somewhere in the middle is what I'm aiming for.

    *EDIT* I have been noticing more and more ESI's, and I do think many of them do have a strong focus on guys who have some money. Or maybe it's the money itself they are focusing on. Lol.

    It's not something that offends me. They aren't actually reckless with their spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Nice. Somewhere in the middle is what I'm aiming for.

    *EDIT* I have been noticing more and more ESI's, and I do think many of them do have a strong focus on guys who have some money. Or maybe it's the money itself they are focusing on. Lol.

    It's not something that offends me. They aren't actually reckless with their spending.
    Maybe it's confirmation bias because you see money as the thing youre capable of offering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Nice. Somewhere in the middle is what I'm aiming for.

    *EDIT* I have been noticing more and more ESI's, and I do think many of them do have a strong focus on guys who have some money. Or maybe it's the money itself they are focusing on. Lol.

    It's not something that offends me. They aren't actually reckless with their spending.
    I'm not so sure, I know an ILI who moved in with an ESI, she seemed sensible on the outside, but he did confess to me that later when they were planning buying a house together, he discovered her salary didn't even take her out of her overdraft.

    Not to say they're all like that.

    It's interesting though, because I knew an SLI who almost didn't get a job due to their poor credit history. It makes me wonder how much of this is type related vs person related. I'm not sure enough to write boring paragraphs about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarper View Post
    I'm not so sure, I know an ILI who moved in with an ESI, she seemed sensible on the outside, but he did confess to me that later when they were planning buying a house together, he discovered her salary didn't even take her out of her overdraft.

    Not to say they're all like that.

    It's interesting though, because I knew an SLI who almost didn't get a job due to their poor credit history. It makes me wonder how much of this is type related vs person related. I'm not sure enough to write boring paragraphs about it.

    Lol. I, too, have a great ILI friend who married an ESI-Se. Even though he's a lawyer, she managed to secretly run up enough credit card debt that he had to re-mortgage their house to pay it off (at a lower interest rate). It nearly ended their marriage.
    She wants more affection from him than he's willing or able to give, too.

    I've spent weeks at a time visiting them, and she and I get along seamlessly, in a completely drama-free manner. I'm not poaching, though. One, I don't do that. Two, he's one of my best friends and she's too heavy to be an option for me.

    This is just one more example of why, for me, it's Duality or GTFO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lump View Post
    Maybe it's confirmation bias because you see money as the thing you're capable of offering.
    Possibly.

    I've given this a lot of thought, lungs. I've just noted that money is something that ESI's mention. A lot. I make the stuff fairly effortlessly, so it's not that big a deal to me.

    I've begun to compare this to the fact that LIE's have Te-facts and Ni-intuition to bring to the duality, and ESI's have Fi-loyalty and Se-assertiveness to bring to the duality. Each naturally has something to offer the other, and it costs them nothing because they are naturally good at it.

    Obviously, things have not worked out between me and my private semi-duals, the LSI's. I have a public semi-dual at work, an EII, who is professionally everything I could want (almost) but for whom I feel exactly zero attraction, so that semi-duality doesn't work, either.
    I know an LIE-Ni company owner who works with his EII wife, and they are professionally successful but the pair lacks Se and the company's culture and success level reflects this. It is seriously dysfunctional with respect to getting things done effectively.

    If ESI's talk a lot about money, I probably talk a lot about sex. Sex and money, the basis of the ESI-LIE duality.
    I've seen that written as a joke before, but there is some truth to it.

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    ive noticed that it can be boring when I hang out w/ my esi cousin who I think is also sp-first bcuz we spend a lot of time talking about money and bills and stuff. but her bf drives for grubhub and my most recent bf is a student. money might be a preoccupation for us but we both see ourselves as responsible for our own finances.

    my se-esi sister is more interested in flashy things or whatever & more inclined to date a guy with money but she's self-sufficient as hell and would be insulted if anybody implied otherwise. and I think she's actually sx first.

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    To be honest, I think that the ESI-Se who is married to the ILI lawyer ran up the credit card debt as a sure-fire way to get his attention, which he otherwise keeps to himself.

    Duals have the most effective levers to both activate and moderate their partners. The levers work for duals, and they don't work that well for non-duals.

    *EDIT* I like some level of flash. Just as long as I see that is it firmly based on Fi.
    I think the way I can find this is that ESI's with what I'm looking for dress with a muted classiness. SLI females excel at this, which is probably a big part of why I married one. Look at any of the image posts by @Syrup to see this.

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    I think we have to be careful about ascribing items such as money to types/duality. It might be different for gamma duality, but my experience of duality is that we're not kept 'in check', but rather our traits are magnified. For instance, it's rare for an IEE I've been involved with to criticize me for my Fe PoLR matter of fact bluntness, usually it's seen as amusing, which fits in with the idea that we have to modify our behavior less around duals, which can be different from personal development.

    I'd say having a lot of money is a quality useful in attracting a mate, just like being handsome is, but not necessarily a quality required to attract a dual.

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    all I see is olimpia going on a posting spate with some pictures in a concerted effort to revive a certain image of gamma and adam strange and chae taking up the cause, each activated in their own way. what is it about pictures and suggestions of that kind that certain people intrinsically hop on board with

    this playbook thing is pretty old and obvious though if you keep your eyes open and watch the patterns. Adam Strange you are a dumbass tool who is so easily manipulated its insane, and yet you make posts explaining why you're not going to steal your friends wife, as if such a thing needs to be reasoned out or that it should be considered to your credit, when its like you come across as half witted for even spending time on the idea. the tone you assume of being some kind of calculating intellect is so misplaced I almost feel bad for you. its literally like watching a retarded person reason

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    I said I would not try to steal my friend's wife because I specifically knew that some dumbass on this site would bring it up.

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    really it sounds like you said the only thing keeping you from doing so was shes fat. is this, is this the power of LIE?!

    why don't you just buy a mail order bride and be done with it. by your criterion they're probably ESI anyway and if they're russian you can probably get some kind of warranty on that

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    I mean girls can't usually carry men like that so its just a statement of fact. wonder women being pretty smug for someone who knows they're a magic creature, which is precisely why she's called "wonder woman". if it was "average woman" doing the carrying this would make a lot more sense. if a woman said, you're pretty short "for a man" of 5'5 it would just be true of men not of women, if he retorted "heh, for a person, you mean"-- it would just be wrong, which makes the smugness kind of bizarre. I guess since she's got the power though in this situation she can do whatever she wants, which seems to be the real conceptual underpinning to all this, that guy isn't really in a position to argue so I guess he can take his rescue with a dose of condescending and bizarrely inaccurate moralizing if it means she'll continue saving his life. sort of like how abusive relationships are justified in the mind of the abuser because "he puts food on the table" or whatever power dynamics function to confer control. really this dude should just "be grateful." thanks wonder woman

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    What was weird to me is the last frame, like it's the kicker, it's the bottom line. BAM. You accidentally offended me. I win, bitch. It feels empty. But it's kind of a reversal of real life where usually being most unaffected makes you the winner even if you're the unaffected one because you're the aggressor.

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    I feel like a really awesome woman is a really awesome person in the sense that they're christlike in their sacrifice anyway, this is sort of the opposite of that, inasmuch as Christ "forgive them for they know not what they do", which would be like real strength, getting a quip in over some perceived sexism? is like not strength, its being bitchy over trivialities that you're on the wrong side of anyway. this makes her out to be a kind of moral child, which makes sense because its like power should be a consequence of virtue, when you give a kid a machine gun this is the sort of stuff that results-- "haha! I'll define the facts!" its like okay, just don't drop me, then go define the facts over there, please. that's the entire problem with these stories that frame superheroes as being essentially undeserving beneficiaries of super human power, it inherently puts into effect a moral universe where power is fundamentally unearned and arbitrary, which is essentially how immature people view the world. to a certain extent inequality is real, but the idea that virtue is conferred by chance and its whatever the strong say it is, is cynical beyond belief such that even the "superhero(ins)" that fight it are infected with this base perspective which lowers them to moral bullies, as we see here


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    I bet Wonder Woman has penis crushing orgasms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    I bet Wonder Woman has penis crushing orgasms.
    Wouldn't that make her an SLE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I mean girls can't usually carry men like that
    they carry men until they grow up

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    If ESI's talk a lot about money, I probably talk a lot about sex. Sex and money, the basis of the ESI-LIE duality.
    Sex is Si region mostly. Not in the sense of talking, certainly. Money is Se, so important but secondary for both.
    The basis relates to leading functions which are: soul friendship (Fi) + reason (Te). Secondary: material control/aquisition (Se) + feeling of timeline/mystic insights (Ni).

    ESI would talk about feelings and relations with more pleasure. Women may think that such discussions are not interesting for men, unlike money/career.
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    ILI jokes from Talanov's website:

    http://sociotoday.narod.ru/frazy.html

    "The phone rings. A tired person lifts the receiver. At the other end of the line is a cheerful (but unfamiliar) voice:
    "Hello!" it's me!
    Tired man:
    - Well, hello, I ..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    ILI jokes from Talanov's website:

    http://sociotoday.narod.ru/frazy.html

    "The phone rings. A tired person lifts the receiver. At the other end of the line is a cheerful (but unfamiliar) voice:
    "Hello!" it's me!
    Tired man:
    - Well, hello, I ..."
    what makes this an ILI joke? is it the absence of punchline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Possibly.

    I've given this a lot of thought, lungs. I've just noted that money is something that ESI's mention. A lot. I make the stuff fairly effortlessly, so it's not that big a deal to me.

    I've begun to compare this to the fact that LIE's have Te-facts and Ni-intuition to bring to the duality, and ESI's have Fi-loyalty and Se-assertiveness to bring to the duality. Each naturally has something to offer the other, and it costs them nothing because they are naturally good at it.

    Obviously, things have not worked out between me and my private semi-duals, the LSI's. I have a public semi-dual at work, an EII, who is professionally everything I could want (almost) but for whom I feel exactly zero attraction, so that semi-duality doesn't work, either.
    I know an LIE-Ni company owner who works with his EII wife, and they are professionally successful but the pair lacks Se and the company's culture and success level reflects this. It is seriously dysfunctional with respect to getting things done effectively.

    If ESI's talk a lot about money, I probably talk a lot about sex. Sex and money, the basis of the ESI-LIE duality.
    I've seen that written as a joke before, but there is some truth to it.
    This.

    Duality or bust, for me. I've tried all the other combinations in practice or theory based on painstaking observations.

    i like the idea that ESIs can remind me to not just work for nothing--which I do.

    It kind of unnerved me to realize how I almost make sex a metonym for a functioning romance. I definitely hyperfixate on it and don't shut up about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I said I would not try to steal my friend's wife because I specifically knew that some dumbass on this site would bring it up.
    I use the same disclosure all the time because if I'm comfortable saying my best friend or my brother or the guy who has a crush on my cousin is gorgeous, people get uncomfortable about if I'm considering pursuing the guy...just because I am comfortable saying he's attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milo View Post
    what makes this an ILI joke? is it the absence of punchline?
    it's funny to me because:

    the ILI is known for being very precise with grammar, and corrected the caller's using 'me' when 'I' is more appropriate. http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/edu...ersus-it-is-me
    and they're deadpan and straightforward and don't use a lot of words to do it
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