Socionics- what the hell?

[Suz]

Sociotype says this:

ESI-1Fi(but kinda screw that, I am too direct for an Fi subtype)

Other:

SEE 85%
EII 54%
LSI 45%

Quadra values:

A: 12%
B: 21%
G: 44%
D: 23%

Strengths / Values:

Fi: 40% / 40%
Se: 35% / 35%
Ti: 10% / 10%
Ne: 15% / 15%

Te: 10% / 40%
Ni: 15% / 35%
Fe: 40% / 10%
Si: 35% / 15%

Yeah i think the maker of that test himself (RSV3) says to kind of disregard the subtype part of the results...
But do you resonate with ESI (and/or SEE) then?

[nondescript]

Yeah i think the maker of that test himself (RSV3) says to kind of disregard the subtype part of the results...
But do you resonate with ESI (and/or SEE) then?

I do. Most definitely.

But seeing how I resonate with ambivert the most...I can't figure out ESI vs SEE for the life of me. Schocks!

[Suz]

I do. Most definitely.

But seeing how I resonate with ambivert the most...I can't figure out ESI vs SEE for the life of me. Schocks!

Hey i am right there with you! But i guess it doesn't matter that much, right?

[blackburry]

I absolutely love your accent.

You've a nice personality.

Personality type... I think ESxx is likely.
Leaning towards F>T.


Do you seem to find Ti or Te more useful?

I think alpha humor is pretty easy to spot once I see/hear it. What kinds of things do you find humorous?

[nondescript]

Hey i am right there with you! But i guess it doesn't matter that much, right?

With me? How so?

[Suz]

With me? How so?

between two mirror types (SEI and ESE in my case)

[Myst]

Not shocking; LSE ex of my husband does some "cute" things and can be very ingratiating, but I still wouldn't say being smiley is the same as ray of sunshine and a delight.

Yep, I see what you mean

I do. Most definitely.

But seeing how I resonate with ambivert the most...I can't figure out ESI vs SEE for the life of me. Schocks!

Sure you are kinda between the two, must be strong Creative sub, very much like me with that but be happy you at least know which two types you straddle the line between out of 16 types. I was pretty happy with generic beta ST too but I did decide in the end Good luck to you too with it!

[Myst]

@Myst yeah Si is probably up there. Yeah I like going out and stuff but when I come back it's like "HOME SWEET HOME GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME" and then I can stay in my house for two days straight having fun. Okay I'm not sure, because I seem to be in between.

I don't feel like "home sweet home", hmm well but yah you sound like an introvert who likes the socializing and feel energized from it due to high Fe? What about taking initiative or you're not sure about that question?

[Suz]

Yeah I like going out and stuff but when I come back it's like "HOME SWEET HOME GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME" and then I can stay in my house for two days straight having fun.

LOL now this i can resonate with 1000%!!!!

[Dooneese]

@blackburry aw, thank you! Mhm, I think Te is more effective in general, it's the one who get things done rather than going off in space rambling about stuff. I don't laugh about stupid things, but I do enjoy comedy films when they're good, I like puns, sarcastic sense of humor tends to make me laugh. I like witty comments that kinda comes out of nowhere lol.

@Myst yeah I wrote it after two days of very tiring socializing (pride parade anyone? SO MANY PEOPLE) I don't always feel like this, but sometimes I do. I'm not too sure anymore.

EDIT: I ALWAYS FORGET TO ANSWER THAT I actually feel more comfortable initiating contacts with people because that way I can choose who I want to befriend and do things my terms lol. I like getting to know new people and I'm usually the one who initiate the first conversation.

[Myst]

EDIT: I ALWAYS FORGET TO ANSWER THAT I actually feel more comfortable initiating contacts with people because that way I can choose who I want to befriend and do things my terms lol. I like getting to know new people and I'm usually the one who initiate the first conversation.

ok hm, I forget what do you have against LSE?

[Dooneese]

ok hm, I forget what do you have against LSE?

I don't I remember I related to ESTJ in MBTI a lot but something about not having Fe seemed odd to me because I thought I do use it... LSE makes a lot of sense and Fe as third function is yes.

[Myst]

I don't I remember I related to ESTJ in MBTI a lot but something about not having Fe seemed odd to me because I thought I do use it... LSE makes a lot of sense and Fe as third function is yes.

I could definitely see you as role Fe and Fi-valuer.

[Dooneese]

I could definitely see you as role Fe and Fi-valuer.

I think LSE is the safest bet right now. Also now I'm remembering that my friends always compare to LSE characters xD

[Myst]

I think LSE is the safest bet right now. Also now I'm remembering that my friends always compare to LSE characters xD

D-A (Dialectical-Algorithmic) thinking works for you I think... seen cognitive styles yet?

[Dooneese]

D-A (Dialectical-Algorithmic) thinking works for you I think... seen cognitive styles yet?

No, I'll search it up right now!

[nondescript]

between two mirror types (SEI and ESE in my case)

But it's ESI and SEE for me.

SEI and ESE is for OP...



edit: after you last post, you seem to be ESE. Kinda doubt LSE, but I guess it's worth exploring.

[Suz]

But it's ESI and SEE for me.

SEI and ESE is for OP...



edit: after you last post, you seem to be ESE. Kinda doubt LSE, but I guess it's worth exploring.

Like, duh....you are unable to comprehend parallels apparently?

[nondescript]

Like, duh....you are unable to comprehend parallels apparently?

Ah, yes. My bad.

[Dooneese]

But it's ESI and SEE for me.

SEI and ESE is for OP...



edit: after you last post, you seem to be ESE. Kinda doubt LSE, but I guess it's worth exploring.

Ergh, top 3: SEI, LSE, ESE. Now I need to figure myself out

[Myst]

No, I'll search it up right now!

did it help?

[Dooneese]

did it help?

I couldn't really find anything worthwhile, it was very confusing.

[Dooneese]

For cogstyles, you either fool yourself into thinking you comprehend them on the first read, or you think about them for a few months, have an epiphany, and realize they're still ridiculously abstract (read: impractical)

Try terms of dualization I guess, for a quicker picture. And don't imagine anyone here knows what they're talking about... The .05% of forum members who can offer you better than just a sloppy guess either don't post or get banned

Thanks

I don't think SEI anymore, I'm just too much of an EJ and today I realized that I'm an extrovert and I've just been really withdrawn lately because I've been alone at home too much... LSE or ESE, urgh.

[nondescript]

Thanks

I don't think SEI anymore, I'm just too much of an EJ and today I realized that I'm an extrovert and I've just been really withdrawn lately because I've been alone at home too much... LSE or ESE, urgh.

Oh, now it's actually easy. Which one do you value more in others: ebullience, liveliness and spirit or precision, collection and knowledge?

Also, it's fairly difficult to mix up Te and Fe(it's not like Fi and Ti heh). One is orderly, productive and to the point while other is...ebullient. World of difference. Plus one is Alpha and other is Delta. Worlds of difference.

[Dooneese]

Oh, now it's actually easy. Which one do you value more in others: ebullience, liveliness and spirit or precision, collection and knowledge?

Also, it's fairly difficult to mix up Te and Fe(it's not like Fi and Ti heh). One is orderly, productive and to the point while other is...ebullient. World of difference. Plus one is Alpha and other is Delta. Worlds of difference.

I don't know what is more, though D: Somehow this is a hard decision for me to make.

In others, I admire productiveness and an ability to get things done. I think I've even mentioned it in my questionnaire somewhere. I can admire both spirit and optimism as well as knowledge and collection, I have a friend whom I admire for her smarts and work ethics and I can value others for being so damn cheerful all the time. Though now that you mention it... Work ethics are really important to me.

Alpha and Delta are kinda weird to me, I need to take a second look at them.

[Exodus]

Watched the first video. Not terribly informative but IMO ESE is most likely.

" My cousin told me that I end up taking too much responsibility on myself and I end up falling apart and not helping at all" This is common for Alpha SFs. There is an element of Si (wanting to help out etc) and weak Te. Usually Te types are good at gauging how much is too much when it comes to time usage etc, and are less likely to have a self-sacrificial attitude.
@GOLDEN your observations about rationality sound more like Resoluteness + rationality. And in the setting of making a video like this an ESE or LSE could come off as more relaxed than normal.

[Exodus]

ok, I read the thread and it all screams ESE.

-"happiest person I know", "ray of sunshine", "perfect" this is evidence against SEI and LSE
-superficial emotions, social niceties, lack of personal feelings - strong Fe > Fi values. Many ESEs can come off as uncaring or not having "deep" feelings.
-the Moroccan story would be interpreted a little differently in socionics. Basically, you think a lot about "how to act" (Fe again) but you have less confidence in dealing with new or strange phenomena (this is Ne). It seems you are nonetheless attracted to it though, so it suggests you value Ne.
-the fact that you chose to relate others' opinions about you in the form of narrative anecdotes (I said, then she said...) also suggests Fe+Si

The thing is- impulsiveness, uncontrolled lifestyle, that's not me at all. I'm a control freak who's super responsible, cautious and never breaks the rules. I can relate to the Fi aspect but Se? Not as a leading function, ever. Si is one of the thing I'm super confident about.

This points somewhat more to rationality, though it is consistent with SEI.