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    Below is an article from http://marketing.about.com/cs/advert...marketvsad.htm

    The goal of is to ideally find the sentence, most relevant to the title of the article.

    Marketing vs. Advertising: What's the Difference?

    You will often find that many people confuse marketing with advertising or vice versa. While both components are important they are very different. Knowing the difference and doing your market research can put your company on the path to substantial growth.

    Let's start off by reviewing the formal definitions of each and then I'll go into the explanation of how marketing and advertising differ from one another:

    Advertising: The paid, public, non-personal announcement of a persuasive message by an identified sponsor; the non-personal presentation or promotion by a firm of its products to its existing and potential customers.

    Marketing: The systematic planning, implementation and control of a mix of business activities intended to bring together buyers and sellers for the mutually advantageous exchange or transfer of products.

    After reading both of the definitions it is easy to understand how the difference can be confusing to the point that people think of them as one-in-the same, so lets break it down a bit.

    Advertising is a single component of the marketing process. It's the part that involves getting the word out concerning your business, product, or the services you are offering. It involves the process of developing strategies such as ad placement, frequency, etc. Advertising includes the placement of an ad in such mediums as newspapers, direct mail, billboards, television, radio, and of course the Internet. Advertising is the largest expense of most marketing plans, with public relations following in a close second and market research not falling far behind.

    The best way to distinguish between advertising and marketing is to think of marketing as a pie, inside that pie you have slices of advertising, market research, media planning, public relations, product pricing, distribution, customer support, sales strategy, and community involvement. Advertising only equals one piece of the pie in the strategy. All of these elements must not only work independently but they also must work together towards the bigger goal. Marketing is a process that takes time and can involve hours of research for a marketing plan to be effective. Think of marketing as everything that an organizationdoes to facilitate an exchange between company and consumer.
    After looking at the article, the most important sentence which basically answers the title of the article is in bold. And that is what does.

    Advantage of Ti:
    I have reduced the article down to 11% of the original, making a time saving of 89% if people were going to only read what I have put in bold.

    Disadavantage of Ti:
    If a person places sole reliance on just this one sentence, they may neglect other information in the article that may be useful/relevant.

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    80/20 (principle)
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP II
    80/20 (principle)
    How?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    Below is an article from http://marketing.about.com/cs/advert...marketvsad.htm

    The goal of is to ideally find the sentence, most relevant to the title of the article.

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    Advantage of Ti:
    I have reduced the article down to 11% of the original, making a time saving of 89% if people were going to only read what I have put in bold.

    Disadavantage of Ti:
    If a person places sole reliance on just this one sentence, they may neglect other information in the article that may be useful/relevant.
    Wouldn't looking for the sentence most relevant to the title of the article utilize both Ti AND Ne?

    (Just some thoughts running through my head at the moment:

    Ti and Se would be good at looking for what physically matches up with the title. (as in, uses those exact same wordings, etc.)
    Fi and Ne would be scratching off the sentences that don't seem to belong to the proposed meaning of the title and/or scratching out what's not practical.
    Fi and Se would be...uh, i dunno...scratching off the sentences that don't contain the wordings of the title? (ie "but it doesn't SAY that")
    Te's wouldn't care about title relevance so much as what in the article is practical (dunno how to divide that one up)
    Fe's....what jumps out at them? Honestly, i dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    Fe's....what jumps out at them? Honestly, i dunno.
    Probably the emotional effect it makes in readers And will the resulting effect be what was intended. Like if you want to sell something then only thing that matters is that the text will make people buy that something. would probably be good at evaluating this kind of stuff. Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    If you want a demonstration of using Ti, just quote any one of Phaedrus's posts. He screams Ti like no other.
    And still I am an INTp ... so what can we learn from that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamicism
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    And still I am an INTp ... so what can we learn from that?
    Except that you aren't INTp, and you never will be INTp, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself in that inexorable, dysfunctional autistic brain of yours which is completely disconnected from reality.
    Is there by any chance anyone else on this forum, except yourself, whose typing skills you have great respect for? If that is the case, and that person happens to be someone I also have respect for, we could ask that person to give his or her opinion on my type. Even if neither one of us will think differently after that, it might still be fruitful, and we could both learn something from it. What do you say about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    Quote Originally Posted by UDP II
    80/20 (principle)
    How?

    What do you mean how?

    It's pretty straighforward -- the most important 80% of something can be found in 20% of it, so to say. It is a principle relating to efficiency. It's not really that complext or anythiing. Obviously, it wasn't exactly 80/20%, but the point is, as situation can be reduced to be more efficient. etc etc. If you think I'm wrong, fine. If you want to know more, check it out. It's fairly popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo
    After looking at the article, the most important sentence which basically answers the title of the article is in bold. And that is what does.

    Advantage of Ti:
    I have reduced the article down to 11% of the original, making a time saving of 89% if people were going to only read what I have put in bold.

    Disadavantage of Ti:
    If a person places sole reliance on just this one sentence, they may neglect other information in the article that may be useful/relevant.
    Hugo, I respect your attempts to try to boil down the functions to some simpler or more testable quantity. But I think it's important to recognize that these are merely experiments, and that we should take the declaration that "this is what this function is, at last..." with a grain of salt.

    Lots of people can find the most important sentence or the gist of something, or find the appropriate title to a passage, etc. ...Of course, various standardized tests have questions to test exactly that.

    Maybe people who are -based are better at this skill than others, but I don't think we should necessarily accept that "a priori." Please show us why we should accept that this particular skill is "what is."

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    See Hugo, I think if anything then would elaborate on something more making things needlessly complicated, whereas would oversimplify something as you said in the first post. Which is exactly why I am now and you are .

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    Quote Originally Posted by That guy who is often refered to as a heartless prick
    Except that you aren't INTp, and you never will be INTp, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself in that inexorable, dysfunctional autistic brain of yours which is completely disconnected from reality.
    AAHHAHAHHA... that's still funny... I have no comment on Phaedrus' type, but...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by That guy who is often refered to as a heartless prick
    Except that you aren't INTp, and you never will be INTp, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself in that inexorable, dysfunctional autistic brain of yours which is completely disconnected from reality.
    AAHHAHAHHA... that's still funny... I have no comment on Phaedrus' type, but...

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