Hi Everybody ¡¡¡¡¡

[Bowie]

Hello everybody, i am an Entj (Lie-ni), i live in Spain and as you can see my english is not perfect, but is still understandable so please be patient, ( perhaps will be easier to communicate with emoticons, so hi everyone..

[Bowie]

Does it looks the lack of experience that i have in this?

[wacey]

Welcome to the 16t.

[Bowie]

Welcome to the 16t.

Thanks...

[blue hummingbird]

Welcome, Bowie! Enjoy your stay Don't worry, your English is understandable. I'm a non-native English speaker as well, I can give you a high-five!

P.S: You sure you are a Jack London?

[mu4]

Hello there!

[Amber]

Hello everybody, i am an Entj (Lie-ni), i live in Spain and as you can see my english is not perfect, but is still understandable so please be patient, ( perhaps will be easier to communicate with emoticons, so hi everyone..

Everyone who lives in Spain is automatically a Beta Fe type.

[Velvet]

Unusual amount of smileys for an ENTj.
Welcome.

[Bowie]

Welcome, Bowie! Enjoy your stay Don't worry, your English is understandable. I'm a non-native English speaker as well, I can give you a high-five!

P.S: You sure you are a Jack London?

Well not a 100%, But my best friends are usually ESI, or Se ego, I just can´t stand Si egos in general, Besides that i have a very crude humor , but like a month ago i took a socionic test and the result was EIE Aka Hamlet, but at the end im not sure, because in the enneagram, as you can see im a 7, how many ENTj 7 have you´ve seen???

[Bowie]

Everyone who lives in Spain is automatically a Beta Fe type.

Jajaja.....That was funny because is true...

[Bowie]

Unusual amount of smileys for an ENTj.
Welcome.

Yes indeed, you made me think again of my sociotype.

[Amber]

Yes indeed, you made me think again of my sociotype.

actually Positivist and Emotivist Fe is is more fit for you .... so ESE.

[Bowie]

actually Positivist and Emotivist Fe is is more fit for you .... so ESE.

You know... i have never seen ESE as possibility. I mean, i´am a very logic person businnes-orient with some displays of emotion,but that´s it. As i said I can´t stand Si people, (LSE, ESE are by far the worst). so: LIE-ni or EIE-ni.

[Beautiful sky]

Yay LIE, welcome

[The Exception]

actually Positivist and Emotivist Fe is is more fit for you .... so ESE.

You know... i have never seen ESE as possibility. I mean, i´am a very logic person businnes-orient with some displays of emotion,but that´s it. As i said I can´t stand Si people, (LSE, ESE are by far the worst). so: LIE-ni or EIE-ni.

ESE or EIE likely based on the sheer volume of smileys.

LIE who likes to mock alpha Fe could be possible by using an obviously excess amount of smileys, I suppose.

[Beautiful sky]

ESE or EIE likely based on the sheer volume of smileys.

LIE who likes to mock alpha Fe could be possible by using an obviously excess amount of smileys, I suppose.

Fe ROLE HELLOW GET WITH THE PROGRAM

[Deer Woman]

Fe ROLE HELLOW GET WITH THE PROGRAM

Doubtful. OP has demonstrated a large range of emotions so far for a few short posts. This would be more indicative of valued Fe than Fe role, although Fe demonstrative might be possible too.

For example, the normative E can be seen in identical cliche smiles. Examine carefully your photographs and photographs of other people. Particularly well this can be seen on photographs of children, because children are more spontaneous when express their natural emotions. If you scroll through a family album, you will notice that facial expressions of some people are nearly the same on all pictures, whereas others have a wider emotional range. Normative smiles look standard and correct in all situations. As if normative E-types feel some limit to how much they can stretch their facial muscles, and everything that goes further is risky and ventures beyond the the average. Normative E-types know well situations in which they are required to smile, for example, when meeting people, when saying "goodbye" when showing their disposition to someone during a conversation, etc.
http://en.socionicasys.org/teorija/dlja-novichkov/funkcii/razmernost/dvumernost

OP, I would consider EIE before LIE. Welcome to the forum!

[Amber]

I think a LIE wouldn't even consider EIE as an alternative (possible type). SLE, LSE ...mby. Can't say the same about Fe types ..who are more accustomed to playing roles and even searching for identity (esp if EIE).

[Bowie]

I think a LIE wouldn't even consider EIE as an alternative (possible type). SLE, LSE ...mby. Can't say the same about Fe types ..who are more accustomed to playing roles and even searching for identity (esp if EIE).

1.- EIE?...No way. Im a very logical person (just read my comments).

2.- I agree with maritsa about the third function.

3.- Let me see if i understand you...if a "serious type" shows a lot of emoticons on a forum, he automatically becomes a Fe valuer?, wtf...

4.- i have some arguments to explain this:

A) I remember very easy data, statistics, etc.

B) Some people says before we met that i'm an asshole, of course i am, if i do not like you ...( here it is when ESI's usually appears).

C) I do not like weak people.

D) I can be very loud, mean and machiavellian like betas (sometimes even more).

E) Did i already tell you that my college career is about international business (ENTjs cliche)

G) After all i consider myself a good citizen.

[Amber]

1.- EIE?...No way. Im a very logical person (just read my comments).

2.- I agree with maritsa about the third function.

3.- Let me see if i understand you...if a "serious type" shows a lot of emoticons on a forum, he automatically becomes a Fe valuer?, wtf...

4.- i have some arguments to explain this:

A) I remember very easy data, statistics, etc.

B) Some people says before we met that i'm an asshole, of course i am, if i do not like you ...( here it is when ESI's usually appears).

C) I do not like weak people.

D) I can be very loud, mean and machiavellian like betas (sometimes even more).

E) Did i already tell you that my college career is about international business (ENTjs cliche)

G) After all i consider myself a good citizen.

yawn.

so:

1. you are a Fe user AND a Fe valuer

2. not seeing your Te-ness play out on here ...stating your interest in statistics doesn't count.

3. ESI is a bigger asshole than LIE to ppl it dislikes or despises

4. EIE is more demanding than LIE in that respect. Their dual is one of the toughest emotionless types , aka the LSI.

[Olimpia]

Unusual amount of smileys for an ENTj.
Welcome.

I know a "real" LIE-Ni online, and it took him several months until he felt comfortable using smileys in a text conversation with me, haha.

yawn.

so:

1. you are a Fe user AND a Fe valuer

2. not seeing your Te-ness play out on here ...stating your interest in statistics doesn't count.

3. ESI is a bigger asshole than LIE to ppl it dislikes or despises

4. EIE is more demanding than LIE in that respect. Their dual is one of the toughest emotionless types , aka the LSI.

^ Basically, this.
I would also say EIE > LIE for @Bowie, just based on my initial impression. And it is likely you are rather Enneagram Type 2, opposed to Type 7. I know of a male EIE-Ni E-2 who is often exaggerating how well-functioning his Ti actually is, and that he just needs to learn a bit more to activate it. I've noticed with many extroverts whose subtype is the creative function that they tend to overestimate their abilities of their dual-seeking function.

[Amber]

I know a "real" LIE-Ni online, and it took him several months until he felt comfortable using smileys in a text conversation with me, haha.



^ Basically, this.
I would also say EIE > LIE for @Bowie, just based on my initial impression. And it is likely you are rather Enneagram Type 2, opposed to Type 7. I know of a male EIE-Ni E-2 who is often exaggerating how well-functioning his Ti actually is, and that he just needs to learn a bit more to activate it. I've noticed with many extroverts whose subtype is the creative function that they tend to overestimate their abilities of their dual-seeking function.

I have no idea who this dude is ... but he sent me a "friend request" on the first day he popped on here. He basically only hd this introduction to serve to ppl.

LIE is extroverted and proactive and Te ego ...but a Fi valuer after all...which means they somewhat wait and see what others do in terms of relating or try to reach out to ppl after they know something about them. "Serious" implies certain well-defined stages of interaction.

Imo not even EIE goes on such a Fe rampage to "connect" with strangers ... so ESE imo.