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    For whatever reason I could kind of see EIE. LIE is an option too but I think you might be ethical. You seem rational.

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    avatar-pic has a look in the eyes that reminds me of a SLE cousin ...which however dunno if you are. only eyes and direct coldish stare, not posture. Other ideas >> SLI or some sorta Ni Ej.

    You do vibe a bit Beta tho ... don't you have fewer pics? too many and too clear can cause public confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    Maybe. I'm not bad on sciences, math etc., but I'm also very good with people and reading them, noticing what they think or feel about me even when they're trying to hide.
    Thats a pretty decent indicator of F.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    Maybe. I'm not bad on sciences, math etc., but I'm also very good with people and reading them, noticing what they think or feel about me even when they're trying to hide. I'm thinking irrational. But the important thing is I can't see myself as an extrovert at all, every description of introverted types suits me. (I'm reading here and I will compare the input of this topic to my ongoing study.)
    bolded sounds like Ni or in some ways ethical. I think Ni is often conflated with ethical functions sometimes (read the ILI descriptions. They often talk of reading people. Ethics seems more concerned with manipulation and installing the motives to Ni considering its a judging function, afaik). If you are convinced of irrationality, in your avatar you do VI like my IEI-Ni friend from high school. ILI is of course another option.

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    Barack Obama EIE

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    I was gonna say you remind me of Obama.

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    Yeah, you look like barack. Wasn't going to bring it up since it's not really constructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    I don't own a camera or smartphone... Those were old files on my HD.

    last pic (>>right) has a Che Guevara vibe http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1/Heroico1.jpg

    what kinda politics were you talking with Dude in the other.

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    I'd suggest looking into ESI maybe SLI ... wasn't thinking of Obama but now that he was brought up there's indeed some similarity (he's often typed as ISFj).

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    I'd suggest looking into ESI maybe SLI ... wasn't thinking of Obama but now that he was brought up there's indeed some similarity (he's often typed as ISFj).
    By who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    By who?
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...4-Barack-Obama

    top votes: IEI and ESI. If you've ever read his book Audacity of Hope or anything written about him by people who know him, he's described as an introvert who needs time to himself to recharge and think things over.

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    You remind me of a SLI acquaintance.

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    EII 3w4 so/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    Barack Obama EIE
    idk if obama is EIE but the first thing i thought when i saw the OP's pics was "VI's like Barack Obama!"

    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    I really can't see any resemblance! Again, this must be some kind of shared, elaborate joke.
    come on, tell me it isn't true, TELL ME it isn't true!




    EDIT: ok i can see a little bit of difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    I really can't see any resemblance! Again, this must be some kind of shared, elaborate joke.
    lol, no, it's not. You see the differences because you are much more familiar with what you look like whereas we see you as closer in looks to Obama than most people we see. Even if there are some obvious differences, our brains are inclined to match you to a face we are already familiar with so we smooth over the differences for the sake of the comparison. It's more of a reflex than anything. At least it is for me.

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    copying from chatbox ~1 hour ago

    Myst Today 12:49 AM lol Lucas you do remind me of obama in that pic
    Myst Today 12:49 AM idk why someone said you have a cold stare. I'm guessing Fi-base if I must VI it.. lol
    Myst Today 12:49 AM I dont believe much in VI in most cases
    Myst Today 12:50 AM so take this for whatever its worth
    Lucas - Report Shout Today 12:50 AM I really can't see any resemblance
    Myst Today 12:51 AM well I thought of it even before I read the other replies in your thread. so.. unbiased there.

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    EII or ESI

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    IJ looks pretty apparent. I too saw ESI.

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    I see dynamic and Ni in what he says:


    Still reading the forum, the wiki, but it will take a while. I'm fairly sure I belong to a dynamic/negativist type, but that's about it. I'm kind of lost.


    More information: I don't work well when there's someone observing. If I'm learning something and there is someone looking at me, I will get nervous, will make mistakes that I wouldn't when alone. Other things are similar: I even have trouble to walk without looking insane if there's people around, but that doesn't happen if tMore information: I don't work well when there's someone observing. If I'm learning something and there is someone looking at me, I will get nervous, will make mistakes that I wouldn't when alone. Other things are similar: I even have trouble to walk without looking insane if there's people around, but that doesn't happen if there are only friends or close people around, if it's an empty street etc. If I have to go to a social event, I will be nervous until I get there, because of the perspective of going there, and by entering I will be too self-conscious and more nervous, but afterwards I will find someone, or a small group, to talk to, and then I will relax.

    (EIE suggestions here)


    Balzac/ILI: "There is nothing he does not know about himself." But the comment on S/N is interesting: "The two types produce different impression even at a physical level when they enter a room. The sensoring type 'fills' the whole room as soon as he enters. You feel like 'there is a lot of him/her'. The intuitive type is ‘ hardly visible’." Definitely N. Also not sure about the objective logic.

    Tutankhamon/IEI: Positivist, that's a problem. Ability to influence groups, maybe, specially when younger; "master organizer, (...) large groups...", don't think so. I want to know things, yes, but I'm not sure if the method described suits me. Not resisting external influence... Not sure about this one, but may come back to it.

    Dreiser/ESI: Objective sensoring... I don't walk swiftly, specially if someone is looking at me while I walk, and never had any talent to dance. No good with finances, but don't care about living without money, yes. Years since the last time I went to the doctor, even having been really ill. I will come back to this one later.

    Gaben/SLI: I'm not a practical person. "A Gaben would never argue, explain or prove anything — it's just not interesting."; "If I love someone, then I am a good person; if I do not (...) then I am bad." No, not like me at all.

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    ISTp final
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    Not so fine with Reinin's description, but the others are on the spot. Accidental, not formal irrationality.
    What's accidental irrationality exactly? Just curious

    Oh and Reinin sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    @Myst was kind to point the distinction between introverts and introtims; MBTI prejudice when considering Socionics, never considered the possibility of being an introverted extratim. I'm back to reconsidering, and this time I can't just cut the 8 extroverted types.
    Well the jokes sure on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    @Myst was kind to point the distinction between introverts and introtims; MBTI prejudice when considering Socionics, never considered the possibility of being an introverted extratim. I'm back to reconsidering, and this time I can't just cut the 8 extroverted types.
    Heh, so with Dynamic and Negativist, it's only four types left, which ones are you considering? Or any other type beyond those four?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    It can only be EIE, then, @Myst — isn't this world strange and full or surprises? The descriptions fit right, in every sense, and one of the tests I've tried gave me a 98% of chance of being an ENFj instead of the result it gave me; the possibility always appeared, but I just ignored it.

    Hey, thank you again for caring; you're great, @Myst.
    No problem

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