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    Default China developing "social" credit rating by monitoring online activity

    http://www.ibtimes.com/china-use-big...system-1898711

    How good a citizen are you? China hopes to answer that question for every one of its citizens with a numerical rating system based on their financial standing, criminal record and social media behavior. A new translation of the government’s plans for a so-called social credit system sheds light on how China aims to utilize "Big Data" to hold all citizens accountable for financial decisions as well as moral choices.
    “If friends have a poor lending reputation, this reflects badly on the person,just as prolonged playing of video games,” the report explains. “Buying diapers indicates responsibility and scores therefore well.”
    pssst... If any future censor is reading, I for one welcome this noble effort to craft the ideal socialist citizen.
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    http://www.ibtimes.com/china-use-big...system-1898711

    pssst... If any future censor is reading, I for one welcome this noble effort to craft the ideal socialist citizen.
    Nothing socialist here really, this is more Confucian, which is essentially anti-socialist. Would say it's even rooted in New Confucianism in order to create the ideal moral Confucian citizen.

    Mao wanted a revolutionary society that would be in constant revolt or at the minimum constant dialectic, and this is more about a harmonious moral one without that dialectic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    http://www.ibtimes.com/china-use-big...system-1898711





    pssst... If any future censor is reading, I for one welcome this noble effort to craft the ideal socialist citizen.
    -100 social credits for each google search that ends with "nude", "leaked", or "anal". (...but automatic win if you did a search with all three )

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    Quote Originally Posted by mu4 View Post
    Nothing socialist here really
    less and less is.

    *goes to finish my crackwhore porn database before the government locks down the internet*
    It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now.

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    Theres gonna be some entrepreneur out there that buys the neighborhoods diapers, gets amazing credit and ends up getting payed hella interest by using his immaculate credit to procure items the low social credit people cant.
    The people will love him, and then he'll become prime minister and China will finally be our friend and invite us over for birthday parties.
    I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.

    Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Theres gonna be some entrepreneur out there that buys the neighborhoods diapers, gets amazing credit and ends up getting payed hella interest by using his immaculate credit to procure items the low social credit people cant.
    The people will love him, and then he'll become prime minister and China will finally be our friend and invite us over for birthday parties.
    ALL BECAUSE HE WAS A SICK DIAPER FIEND

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    that's ridiculous. at least get your government right before you do this.

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    something i found interesting: according to the translated policy document, the Chinese government doesn't just view this as a way to improve society internally, they are conscious of using it to improve relations/influence with the rest of the world, i.e. increase China's soft power:
    Our country is in a period of expansion in which the openness levels of the economy are rising on an even greater scale, across even broader fields, and at even deeper levels. Economic globalization has enabled an incessant increase of our country’s openness towards the world, and economic and social interaction with other countries and regions is becoming ever closer. Perfecting the social credit system is a necessary condition to deepen international cooperation and exchange, establishing international brands and reputations, reducing foreign-related transaction costs, and improving the country’s soft power and international influence, and is an urgent requirement to promote the establishment of an objective, fair, reasonable and balanced international credit rating system, to adapt to the new circumstances of globalization, and master new globalized structures.

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