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    Alpha

    United States of America
    Canada
    Ireland
    Korea

    Beta:

    Russia
    Eastern Europe
    South America
    Africa

    Gamma

    Western Europe

    Delta

    Northern Europe
    Japan
    Australia
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    All I know is that it feels like Betas and Deltas are plentiful in the US. I'd say Alphas are a somewhat close runner up. Gammas seem sparse here, but maybe there is some sort of bias at work.

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    I think culturally you can have the bias present. But amongst people themselves, I'd side with the law of averages and say its an even spread over a large population.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Distribution of types has to be very similar across countries (form my observation delta ST's and alpha SF's are in abundance, while Beta NF's and gamma NT's seem very rare), it's more of a big city/rural area difference. And also values that are different from country to country, so as a whole the country has certain quadra spirit, not more individuals of said quadra.

    Balkan region is very Beta in values. Si, Te and Fi are more devalued the more south you go.

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    I always thought the United States was more beta/gamma, SLE/LIE like, Canada was more delta-ish.

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    United states is a pretty big place and varies from many different extremes to everything in the middle. So I'm sure you're all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Alpha

    United States of America
    Canada
    Ireland
    Korea

    Beta:

    Russia
    Eastern Europe
    South America
    Africa

    Gamma

    Western Europe

    Delta

    Northern Europe
    Japan
    Australia
    I think you will find they are evenly distributed ahem.

    Edit: Oh wait, I thought this was a joke, it's not.

    What about Spain?

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    I wouldn't say gamma are sparse...just not as immediately noticeable. They're all in their offices making power plays, navigating stupid rules, assuring their positions are good

    Also I notice a trend where you've placed shitty places to live as Beta, and America's former lapdogs as Delta(assuming you include Germany as Northern Europe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Also I notice a trend where you've placed shitty places to live as Beta, and America's former lapdogs as Delta(assuming you include Germany as Northern Europe).
    As a Beta I'd much rather live in "shitty" and chaotic South America than in Japan or US (except NYC), tyvm : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    As a Beta I'd much rather live in "shitty" and chaotic South America than in Japan or US (except NYC), tyvm : )
    Well, have fun with that. I wasn't really speaking about South America, though, as I don't know much about it. I do know there are some good places to live though,along with the slums. I'm sure that's true about all those places, but in general, in those places any one person is going to have less of a chance of having an affluent life(in some absolute standard, as opposed to relative).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Well, have fun with that. I wasn't really speaking about South America, though, as I don't know much about it. I do know there are some good places to live though,along with the slums. I'm sure that's true about all those places, but in general, in those places any one person is going to have less of a chance of having an affluent life(in some absolute standard, as opposed to relative).
    Lol, I'm having fun with it every day since I was born Yes, people are on average poorer in these areas. They don't seem any less happy or neurotic on average though.

    Just don't see the supposed obvious correlation between shitty and poorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Lol, I'm having fun with it every day since I was born Yes, people are on average poorer in these areas. They don't seem any less happy or neurotic on average though.

    Just don't see the supposed obvious correlation between shitty and poorer.
    Affluent means more than poor, I suppose. It has more to do with the standard of living you experience than the money in your pocket. Think important things like health, education, etc. I'm not saying you can't be happy with the place you've carved out for yourself in those societies, because trust me, I would kill to live in a less neurotic place(or just...be less neurotic lol). Affluence is not measured by how many Starbucks or Panera Breads there are, it's how much of the bullshit of life has turned positive. If you want to PM me, I'm actually pretty curious to hear what daily life is like in South America, but I think I'd rather not derail this thread further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Affluent means more than poor, I suppose. It has more to do with the standard of living you experience than the money in your pocket. Think important things like health, education, etc. I'm not saying you can't be happy with the place you've carved out for yourself in those societies, because trust me, I would kill to live in a less neurotic place(or just...be less neurotic lol). Affluence is not measured by how many Starbucks or Panera Breads there are, it's how much of the bullshit of life has turned positive. If you want to PM me, I'm actually pretty curious to hear what daily life is like in South America, but I think I'd rather not derail this thread further.
    Agreed, basic needs have to be met otherwise life is pretty shitty. I'm not from S America though, unfortunately : ) I'm from Eastern Europe (or is it technically Central - well, not first world by gdp anyway).

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    Theres some old thread on the quadra dominances per country.

    I believe USA was gamma and now is transitioning to delta. Makes a bit of sense with Delta having the sustainment notion associated with them. Beta had the revolutions in the 60-70's. Moved into Gamma before and during the economic boom (bubble?) and now we seem to be moving away from growth economically and into the sustainment of our quality of life. I think Obama put in some good work economically for the future (ESI I believe) but I think the next Republican in office will try to dismantle alot of that in favor of immediate benefit, which is more of a judicious thing. Probably fall right back into delta.



    I believe it goes something akin to -
    Alpha pushes ideas into the cultural consciousness to improve society
    Beta uses that as fuel to restructure the system and quo
    Gamma sharpens and refines the system to get the maximum benefit
    Delta sustains the system to keep it functional for as long as possible.

    Then something like widespread racism or some other giant problem fuels Alpha back into motion and starts the cycle anew.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    I wouldn't say gamma are sparse...just not as immediately noticeable. They're all in their offices making power plays, navigating stupid rules, assuring their positions are good

    Also I notice a trend where you've placed shitty places to live as Beta, and America's former lapdogs as Delta(assuming you include Germany as Northern Europe).
    Germany is Western/Central Europe


    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Agreed, basic needs have to be met otherwise life is pretty shitty. I'm not from S America though, unfortunately : ) I'm from Eastern Europe (or is it technically Central - well, not first world by gdp anyway).
    You are in Central Europe like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Germany is Western/Central Europe



    You are in Central Europe like me
    I've seen it referred to as either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Theres some old thread on the quadra dominances per country.

    I believe USA was gamma and now is transitioning to delta. Makes a bit of sense with Delta having the sustainment notion associated with them. Beta had the revolutions in the 60-70's. Moved into Gamma before and during the economic boom (bubble?) and now we seem to be moving away from growth economically and into the sustainment of our quality of life. I think Obama put in some good work economically for the future (ESI I believe) but I think the next Republican in office will try to dismantle alot of that in favor of immediate benefit, which is more of a judicious thing. Probably fall right back into delta.



    I believe it goes something akin to -
    Alpha pushes ideas into the cultural consciousness to improve society
    Beta uses that as fuel to restructure the system and quo
    Gamma sharpens and refines the system to get the maximum benefit
    Delta sustains the system to keep it functional for as long as possible.

    Then something like widespread racism or some other giant problem fuels Alpha back into motion and starts the cycle anew.
    Curious, pookie, now 3 years later, do you still think the US is transitioning to delta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suz View Post
    Curious, pookie, now 3 years later, do you still think the US is transitioning to delta?
    Yes. Though Trump is doing some beta things fed off of the fuel of people's resentment, the status quo is virtually impossible to break at this point short of a widespread desire for restructuring.

    But the alpha notion with the greatest push is resentment, and that's feeding into the status quo.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Some countries I've been to

    Alpha: (Merry, Judicious)
    Portugal
    USA (West)

    Beta: (Merry, Decisive)
    Australia
    Italy
    Russia

    Gamma: (Serious, Decisive)
    Austria
    Netherlands
    USA (Northeast)

    Delta: (Serious, Judicious)
    Canada
    New Zealand
    USA (Midwest & South)


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    these are sociotypes, not quadras, but they're interesting nonetheless. I think it was @HERO who pointed out that most of the country-sociotype connections people were making on their own, matched up with what the website below suggested for best-fit sociotypes for the same countries.

    Americans:
    logical-intuitive extravert [ENTj]
    Armenians: ethical-sensory extravert [ESFj]
    Arabs: ethical-intuitive extravert [ENFj]
    Argentina: ethical-sensory extravert [ESFj]
    Australians: sensory-logical introvert [ISTp]
    Azeri: sensory-ethical introvert [ISFp]
    Belarussians: ethical-intuitive introvert [INFj]
    Brazilians: sensory-ethical ...vert [?SFp]
    Bulgarians: sensory-ethical introvert [ISFp]
    Canadians: logical (or ethical)-intuitive introvert [IN?j]
    Chechens: sensory-logical extravert [ESTp]
    Czekh: logical-intuitive introvert [INTj]
    Chinese: logical-sensory introvert [ISTj]
    Danish: ethical-sensory introvert [ISFj]
    English: logical-sensory extravert [ESTj]
    Finns: sensory-logical introvert [ISTp]
    French: ethical-sensory extravert [ESFj]
    Georgians (Caucasus): sensory-ethical extravert [ESFp]
    Germans: logical-sensory introvert [ISTj]
    Indians (Hindu): intuitive-ethical introvert [INFp]
    Irish: intuitive-ethical introvert [INFp]
    Italians: sensory-ethical extravert [ESFp]
    Jews (Europe, USA): intuitive-logical extravert [ENTp]
    Jews (Israel): intuitive-ethical extravert [ENFp]
    Koreans: ethical-sensory introvert [ISFj]
    Mexicans: intuitive-ethical introvert [INFp]
    Norwegians: logical-intuitive extravert [ENTj]
    Poles: ethical-intuitive extravert [ENFj]
    Portuguese: sensory-ethical introvert [ISFp]
    Romanians: intuitive-ethical extravert [ENFp]
    Russians: intuitive-ethical introvert [INFp]
    Serbians: sensory-logical extravert [ESTp]
    Spanish: intuitive-ethical extravert [ENFp]
    Swedes: logical-intuitive introvert [INTj]
    Swiss: ethical-sensory introvert [ISFj]
    Turks: sensory-logical extravert [ESTp]
    Ukrainians: ethical-sensory introvert [ISFj]

    (thanks to @HERO on this thread who borrowed it from this source)
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    Interesting. I know the US has been mostly pegged as LIE, but i read Startiyevskaya (sp?) or someone who said EII for the US. This author (if it was her) discussed a bit how the EII authors like Dostoevsky are popular in the US among others things that i don't recall.
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    Lots of Turks what I have seen seem to have this SLE like style
    Russians do have IEI style and illogical actions. They also like powerful people.
    Certain Germans seem to be quite LSI regardless of type.


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