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    oh god, this douche. entx.
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    After reading his book Malignant Self-Love I would guess his type as EIE-Fe 8w7. Process/Evolutionary type (link) stood out from his writing as he has a way of over-complicating things. At the end of the book, he created this very elaborate step-by-step system of how the ego, superego, true self and false self interact to create the narcissistic personality, and I kept thinking where in the world is he getting this from. In any case, here is a quote from his blog that sounds rather Fe:

    Sam Vaknin: "Human relationships are dynamic. We must assess our friendships, partnerships, even our marriages periodically. In and by itself, a common past is insufficient to sustain a healthy, nourishing, supportive, caring and compassionate relationship. Common memories are a necessary but not a sufficient condition. We must gain and regain our friendships on a daily basis. Human relationships are a constant test of allegiance and empathy."
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    He's not a psychopath. He seems like an extreme LIE. In this case, empathy would be low but valued, in contrast to say, an SLE, where empathy is both low and not valued.

    A more pronunced version of @mfckr comes to my mind. I like Ashton but I can see how other people might find him abrasive at times.
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    Vaknin is prime example of Se HA gone wrong. LIE. He is pretty good at creating bullshit... no... dinosaur poop dynamically.

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    Sam Vaknin: SLI E7 or E8. He has weird (and scary) combination of disorders, as he's both a psychopath and a narcissist (NTR)

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    his wife Lidija Rangelovska is likely SEI-Si, which according to my typing of him as EIE places them in supervision relations and could explain why she says that she has the control in their relationship

    there aren't too many good photographs of her but in this one she reminds me of Bjork


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    A more candid look at his personality:


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    Tentative typing: Ti-ILE 5w4 So/Sp

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    Definitely an extroverted logical type.
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    For some reason, I found him interesting and I used to read about him. He seemed like a Beta type. The fact that he's so self-revealing might say something about his type.

    He wrote poetries and some were nice and quite beautiful. Apparently, he doesn't feel any emotions but just likes how the words are arranged in a certain way.

    Examples:

    Cutting to Existence

    My little brother cuts himself into existence.

    With razor tongue I try to shave his pain,

    he wouldn't listen.

    His ears are woolen screams, the wrath

    of heartbeats breaking to the surface.

    His own Red Art.

    When he cups his bleeding hands

    the sea of our childhood

    wells in my eyes

    wells in his veins

    like common salt.
    In the concentration camp called Home

    In the concentration camp called Home,

    we report in striped pajamas

    to the barefeet commandant,

    Our Mother orchestrating

    our daily holocaust.

    Burrowing her finger-

    -nails through my palms,

    a scream frozen between us,

    a stalactite of terror

    in the green caves of her eyes

    there, sentenced to forced labour:

    to mine her veins of hatred

    to shovel her contempt

    to pile scorn upon scorn

    beating(s) a path.

    At noon, Our Mother

    leads us to the chambers

    naked, ripples of flesh

    she turns on the gas

    and watches our hunger

    as her food devours us.
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    You can read his writing and musings here:

    http://samvak.tripod.com/culture.html

    Looking back at it now, maybe most of them were mainly just bullshit. He seems comfortable with talking about some F topics.
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    I think his wife is EII maybe ESI. ET type. Probably ego. Loves himself. I don't know if this one qualifies a person as valuer. egos are more like rule bound know it all types (applied to different contexts) than self fixated in terms of valuing.

    LIE. It looks like he is more like trying to be a true a true psychopath than he actually is. Well, he makes money out of it.

    He and his wife
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