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    What is beauty? What is love?

    Something is beautiful when it has impact. It should hit me in the gut and move me. Like when I think back about it after a long time and still feel the connection, that it stayed with me. Love is subjective.

    What are your most important values?
    I need a goal in life, something I can strive for.

    Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?
    I don’t believe in God.

    Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?
    War is violence. I abhor violence.
    Power is Power. No clue how to describe it further.

    What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?
    Dunno not much of a talker most of the time irl. I pursue my interests in private.

    Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?
    I don’t discuss my bodily functions with people.
    I’m neglectful of my body. Sometimes people have to remind me to eat.

    What do you think of daily chores?
    I don’t think about them. I just do, what I think needs to be done that day.

    Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.
    Recently watched:
    The Philadelphia Story - funny dialogue
    L’Eclisse - very subtle despiction of two people who might be in love, but it leads nowhere, it was not enough*
    La Notte - the ending kinda moved me, subtle despiction of the death of a relationship and the resulting feeling of emptiness and ‚what now?‘*
    * just my personal ramble

    Reading material: I don’t know. I like to read, but I wouldn’t consider me to be very well read (compared to other people). I like crime novels (lol) and books that really go deep into peoples psyches, like when they reflect about their life. I also like books with a set of characters and the analysis of the the relationship each character has with each other.

    Last thing that really left a deep impression was a book about a women who was locked up/held captured by her rapist and the ongoing psychological battle she had with him. Yeah that's morbid but idk...

    What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?
    I cry when I’m very stressed and pissed (seldom though).
    I smile at people, I like and dogs. My smile can sometimes be more of the internal kind.
    Sometimes it's nice to keep things inside, where other people cannot see them.
    Oscar Wilde and funny animal videos always make me lol.

    Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?
    Anywhere I can be alone and feel at one with myself.

    What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?
    Real ‚character flaws‘: bottling up of /repression of anger, it’s boiling beneath the surface for some time and then I might explode (seldom) or implode and regret it. I dislike that very much about me.

    I also think, that I’m not very aware of my emotions most of the time. Like the real emotions, not thinking or rationalizations. Like I just do my things and then stuff happens and it‘s very hard for me to feel out what’s going on, like there is idk... and then I just shrug it off and move on and then like some time later it, (out of the blue) it might catch up with me and I start to feel overwhelmed. I hate that surfacing of raw emotion. I like to feel calm and collected.

    I thinks that's also one of the reasons why I can’t stand being around highly charged emotional environments. Like they disrupt my inner calm world and I just can‘t deal with that. I think some people might pick that up about me and think of me as cold, not caring and that I should work on it and be open to people and their stuff, let the emotion happen and yeah... idk.

    I can also be nervous about minor things. I can get touchy then and might overreact about stuff. I'm trying to be more relaxed about that.
    There are probably more things. But that’s enough for today.

    What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?
    Perseverance, Optimism

    In what areas of your life would you like help?
    I don’t want help dealing with my life.

    Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.
    Yes, and then I get over myself.

    What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?
    Going with the people that I know longest and feel at ease with:
    People who can forgive. I find that really admirable.
    People who are kind. Kind people always make me calmer and I feel more at ease.

    I dislike: Violence, Getting at me with an overbearing, demanding and pressuring attitude.
    I can get extremely mulish and irrationally stubborn when that happens

    How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?
    I think above all I want to feel connected. Like the other person feels real to me.

    If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?
    I would be really afraid that I couldn’t love/stand my child.
    No idea what ‚measures‘ one would take then.
    Like practical matters, sooner or later I will be able to manage.
    But resenting my child, that would scare me.

    A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?
    Actions before Words.

    How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
    I have no clue how I would ‚choose‘ it’s more like there is something (intuitive decision?)
    I behave, how I behave.

    How do you behave around strangers?
    Reserved, calm, contained. Sometimes nervous and high strung.

    Sorry about punctuation and grammar. I always have been crappy about that.
    Tbh this Questionnaire kinda sucks, the questions are so... idk abstract?
    General thoughts I have: I‘m not a logical type. I’m not a p.
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    Not sure if I said it already but welcome to the forum. I love Oscar Wilde.
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    Why are you sure you're not logical?

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    From the very beginning I've had the impression Mayr is a Sensing type ...this Q-nnaire kinda confirms it.

    Rational seems to work -- possibly LSI or my Identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    Why are you sure you're not logical?
    Logical Type - Te, Ti in Ego Block. Flexibility (fraiming, refraiming of data), logical ad hoc assessment of my surroundings and a certain self confidence in presenting data, should be a deep ingrained part of myself. But looking at my general modus operandi, I am somebody who prepares, who needs time, who mulls over stuff, who seems to be more rigid (going one path) etc. That just shows me that It's not a deep ingrained part of myself, of my Ego - so to speak. I have to develop strength there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayr View Post
    Logical Type - Te, Ti in Ego Block and 4D .
    Flexibility (fraiming, refraiming of data), Logical Ad hoc assessment of my surroundings and a certain self confidence in presenting data, should be a deep ingrained part of myself. But looking at my general modus operandi, I am somebody who prepares, who needs time, who mulls over stuff, who seems to be more rigid (going one path) etc. That just shows me that It's not a deep ingrained part of myself, of my Ego - so to speak. I have to develop strength there.
    I would look at the root of all that stuff. Are you rigid because you think you have the best way or because you can't see the other ways? Needing time doesn't indicate weak logic..it just means you want to have a good answer(possibly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    I would look at the root of all that stuff. Are you rigid because you think you have the best way or because you can't see the other ways? Needing time doesn't indicate weak logic..it just means you want to have a good answer(possibly).
    I think the root of this is - and that's why I'm not going with logical type for myself - fear. That's why -- one path. New path -- unknown.
    So it's more, no confidence in your logical capacity and therefore a weakness to defend it against probing and tests (e.g. testing it against the unknown).
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    So. I have decided on Ij for myself. Regarding the rest -- I'm not so sure about my intuition and sensing functions. I think I may lack the idk abstractness of Ne. But my tendency to not grab Se and go with it shows that I have my doubts there too. Well... I think it's time to stop at that point for now.
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    Hi, It's possible to feel you don't use a creative function much more , particularly if you're accepting subtype (Fi or Ti in your case ).

    It just crossed my mind that you are like a Fi after reading your "Weakness and Strengths" fragments . It's not Fe seeking I see there. More something like a Fi sea of calm that doesn't want to be disturbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morningthaw View Post
    It's not Fe seeking I see there. More something like a Fi sea of calm that doesn't want to be disturbed.
    ... sea of calm, yeah just don't want people to get on my nerves unnecessarily. I have to think about it. I mean Fi is often described in socionic profiles as being able to judge the emotional bond or distance between people accurately. I feel like I'm kind of a person who is a little bit more careful in this area, because I might be not that good with Fi?

    I may refrain from making conclusions or guesses about peoples emotions. I just think, that such things can be complex (and I just can't grasp it quickly enough...) and maybe you can never really know what's really going on inside a person. I suck at putting my own emotional state into words at times. I'm feeling stressed when I'm forced to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayr View Post
    What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?
    I cry when I’m very stressed and pissed (seldom though).
    I smile at people, I like and dogs. My smile can sometimes be more of the internal kind.
    Oscar Wilde and funny animal videos always make me lol.
    Describe two instances that have made you cry and what moved you? And two instances of what made you stressed or pisses and what was responsible for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    Describe two instances that have made you cry and what moved you? And two instances of what made you stressed or pissed and what was responsible for that?
    What moved me: In November 2014 there was a video going around, which showed Chris Picco singing for his dying son. His wife died a few days prior and his son was delivered via an emergency caesarean section. His son died later, too. There was a comment on facebook from a woman who said that this video should have more clicks than Kim Kardashian's ass (Kim published her photos around the same time or so). Somebody answered: This video is just pity porn. What can you possibly know about the things that this person is going through. Feeling sorry will change nothing. We are not there. We cannot do anything. He would rather like to look at Kim K's ass than indulge and wallow in the pain of another person like that.

    (I have paraphrased this out of my memory -- searched for the post*** but oh well...) I think what I want to say is that there is a part of me that reacts (empathic impulse? wants to get moved?) but the other part just detests this kind of cheap sentiment. I mean I dislike superficial pity that just gets thrown around. I find it patronizing. But on the other hand, it's not like there is nothing. Things move me, but then idk.... how much do you really care. You know jack shit about what's going on. It's hard for me to put it into words. Being all like -- so this happened and it moved me because... I don't feel this way. It's like something happened and in that moment I just feel nothing and then some time later it might hit me. Like it stayed in the back of my mind and it needed time to take shape. That's why I think I wrote in my Questionnaire that I find things which really can leave an impact over time beautiful. They are just raw idk... (how do you say -- touch me on a deep level).

    What made me cry/stressed/pissed: Well lets just say that I can get really fed up with myself. There are just some days where I might loose it out of frustration. When people get on my nerves, push and prod me emotionally, I can get stressed. This makes me angry and resentful and I get pissed.

    ***EDIT: I found the post.

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    I feel like you write really well yet that's not much to contribute to your type question.

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    Fi type ...

    ...and really the idea of resistance of a feeling over time reminds me of some things I know ... I saw Ni HA manifest itself like this and not only in one person, though of course it wasn't necessarily articulated the same way. It looks a bit like some incomplete confidence in potentiality or potential development. I think Ne creative has a more 'sudden' (as in all at once) sense of the value / validity of a feeling or of a form of beauty (that is not purely physical).

    Ij over Ip because Ip usually 'kneels' to absolute subjectivity ('beauty is subjective, you can never know what is really beautiful, only depends on the subject's consciousness or how you look at smth etc.'). Relating beauty to an impression of being hit in the gut and (durably) moved rings more Fi than _iFe to me.
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    I think what I want to say is that there is a part of me that reacts (empathic impulse? wants to get moved?) but the other part just detests this kind of cheap sentiment. I mean I dislike superficial pity that just gets thrown around. I find it patronizing.

    the authenticity of a feeling and the purity of its means of expression are also considered here ...so really Fi>Fe and Fi>Ti.

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    Hi,
    How do people push and prod you emotionally that would make them get on your nerves? Why do you think you find it difficult to asses what other people are feeling? What does a "sea of calm" entail for you? I think there is some important factors there.
    "If this to end in fire, then we should all burn together. Watch the flames climb higher into the night."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Hi,
    How do people push and prod you emotionally that would make them get on your nerves? Why do you think you find it difficult to asses what other people are feeling? What does a "sea of calm" entail for you? I think there is some important factors there.
    Hello,

    [1] When they start to overstep boundaries. Like I wrote, I get stressed, I feel irritated. I’m also not a sucker for people, who are big on the projection thing.
    They say I feel this or that. I tell them no and explain why. They continue. Big no from me.

    [2] Please don’t misunderstand what I wrote. I wrote that I refrain from making conclusions or guesses on peoples emotions. I wrote that I‘m more careful in this area. I think the reasons are obvious. Think about all the people you meet all day. How much do you really know about them? And even more interesting how much do they know about you? Even with the people who are closest to you, do you really tell them everything? Don’t you have parts that are hidden? I think there might be people who are open. But there are people, who feel more like themselves when they keep things hidden. A space within yourself that other people can’t intrude, that is not open to them. So now, is it really that easy to make conclusions about people and their emotions? With people you don’t know, what do you know about the things that are going on in their lives? How can you be sure that you are right in your assessment of them? With people you know, how are you so sure that your own projections/your own image of that persons does not cloud your judgement? Like I wrote, I find these things to be very complex.

    [3] ‚A calm heart is the secret for a calm hand.‘ What I mean is that after some struggles, after some wrangling with yourself you reach the point where something has developed that is stable and unmovable in yourself. You can keep a cool head because you feel rooted in yourself. You operate with a clear mind and you have a reason for your actions, you are not messing around. Another thing that a sea of calm entails for me is ‚being in the zone‘. Absolute concentration on what you are doing. Blending out whats going on around you. That’s what I understand under a sea of calm. Morningthaw addressed the part in my weaknesses. I stated that I don’t like that surfacing of raw emotion. What I meant was, that I think that this happens when sth. is struggling within you, that needs to be addressed. And going to the root of this was always difficult for me.
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    Cool, good answers, very concise.
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    Pretty strong Fi + devaluated Se points towards Delta. You don't seem to be Si Ego, and your Fi looks stronger than Te. My guess is EII(IEE would be a second choice).

    Edit: Forgot to mention I'm new to socionics, so don't take what I say too seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitude View Post
    Pretty strong Fi + devaluated Se points towards Delta. You don't seem to be Si Ego, and your Fi looks stronger than Te. My guess is EII(IEE would be a second choice). Edit: Forgot to mention I'm new to socionics, so don't take what I say too seriously.
    I have my doubts regarding EII. I think, that I don't value Ne/Si. Si is sometimes hard for me to grasp as a function. I connect with Se/Ni more, which would point to ESI, but I don't think that I have strong Se - trying to get a clearer understanding.
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    That can be Ni HA... that's why often IEIs think they are logical (Ti agenda) and ESIs that they are intuitives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet View Post
    That can be Ni HA... that's why often IEIs think they are logical (Ti agenda) and ESIs that they are intuitives...
    Yes it's sometimes explained with Subtypes. Accepting subtypes are supposed to have a stronger focus on their Hidden Agenda. But what I meant, (also in light of Solitude's post) is that I see how I understand Se/Ni more, but I think that I have weak Se. I can relate to points in Se-Polr descriptions/threads.
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