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    I think:
    Type 1) there are types that focus more on a person's actions (rather than their intention for doing an action) and
    Type 2) there are types that consider a person's intention behind the action (and not just the action itself).

    So for example, Person A did something that hurt the feelings of Person B, but Person A did not have evil intentions, but actually had innocent intentions.

    Which types are Type 1, and which types are Type 2?

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    Type 2: INFJ
    INFP

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    Type 2: INTj

    In additon Type 2 is more understanding and readily forgiving.
    Type 1's are not so forgiving and are emotionally defensive, perhaps lashing out in some way. They need more time to forgive, and will see if the behavior persists.

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    Type 1: S
    Type 2: N
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    I just focus on how the action made me feel. I guess this puts me in the first cathegory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    I just focus on how the action made me feel. I guess this puts me in the first cathegory.
    I agree.

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    Agree.

    Type 1 (EST): Don't forgive unless there's some sort of that proves that person b can be trusted again. Don't rely on their emotions or person b's emotions.

    So for example, Person A did something that hurt the feelings of Person B, but Person A did not have evil intentions, but actually had innocent intentions.
    Type 2 (INF): Ready to forgive by person a's emotions and own rollercoaster emotions.
    INFP

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    Type 2: ISTp
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    my initial reaction was something like

    1:2

    T:F

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    I think there are different kind of intentions and actions... this is what makes your superego different than your duality... i think its a matter of introverting and extraverting things.
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    type 2. ENTj
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    Type 1.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    type 2. ENTj
    Which is why you get stuck on the FACT/RESULT that someone is ...say... "poor" ... instead of looking to see what their intentions ARE or WERE???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kioshi
    On the surface, I'd say:

    Type 1: E
    Type 2: I

    The extroverted attitude by definition orients on objective data. The introverted attitude by definition orients on subjective data.
    How about

    Type 1: Xe
    Type 2: Xi

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise
    Quote Originally Posted by Kioshi
    On the surface, I'd say:

    Type 1: E
    Type 2: I

    The extroverted attitude by definition orients on objective data. The introverted attitude by definition orients on subjective data.
    How about

    Type 1: Xe
    Type 2: Xi

    ?
    thats what I said...

    I think there are different kind of intentions and actions... this is what makes your superego different than your duality... i think its a matter of introverting and extraverting things.

    why cant we just call it... introvert and extravert, lol, why are we using type 1 type 2.
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    I dunno, I'm type 2 for whatever it's worth.
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    I'm 100% category 2. The action itself is usually almost irrelevant to me. I react very badly to actions but very strongly to intentions. If I can't see the intention behind the action I rarely react at all. More likely just go on as if the action wasn't even there. I think this is a pretty subconscious thing to me.

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    Both, depending on the situation, but I lean towards type 1.
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    How is it even possible to seperate the two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    How is it even possible to seperate the two?
    You are 1!

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    Type 1. 'Tis a curse, really. Type 2 people have a tendency to annoy me.
    Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)

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    delete.
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    Well by observing peoples actions I can judge their motivation and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Well by observing peoples actions I can judge their motivation and vice versa.
    That's exactly what I was getting at.
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    delete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Well by observing peoples actions I can judge their motivation and vice versa.
    That's exactly what I was getting at.
    Yes, but even if some know the motivation, they may not care about it, only the resulting action.
    Why would I not care about it? That would make me biased. Besides I think this plays a greater role then type in the way people approach these situations (Where they judge other peoples actions and motivation behind those actions)

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    Id say 1 but the actions of a person may not tell the whole story and there may be reasons that cause the person to react that way that I am unaware of. Sometimes we have to look beyong the behavior to get to the root of the problem or we find we are just reacting to symptoms. Yes people should be responsible for their actions, but mercy and reasonablness dictate we look a little deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Quote Originally Posted by vague
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    Well by observing peoples actions I can judge their motivation and vice versa.
    That's exactly what I was getting at.
    Yes, but even if some know the motivation, they may not care about it, only the resulting action.
    Why would I not care about it? That would make me biased. Besides I think this plays a greater role then type in the way people approach these situations (Where they judge other peoples actions and motivation behind those actions)
    yeah this is what I mean.

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    Arggg... can someone please fill me in on what this thread is about and why its not just introvert/extravert.... with primary function either internalized or externalized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slava
    Arggg... can someone please fill me in on what this thread is about and why its not just introvert/extravert.... with primary function either internalized or externalized.
    Why do you think it's dependent upon the primary function?
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