They aren't "partially correlated". They try to describe same things with different amount of precision and different angle of observation.
Not to mention the gray Area of MBTI's lack of consensus due to the watering down done to it.
So far, it seems so to me. I'm not saying it for sure. Not yet at least.
Is this you trying to sound dramatic? Because you're also saying nothing.
I never made a finalized statement claiming this to be 100% true. Even though I read up on socionics a lot I have more to learn.
I mentioned MBTI typing explicitly pointing out it REMINDS me of socionics, without claiming it's the same thing.
Get of your high horse you indignant asshole.
I'm trying to be humble here, how about you educate me instead?
And the MBTI INFP over there who claims she's MBTI INFJ, is still an INFP. I've only met people like her going from MBTI INFJ to EII, and they're all INFPs across the board, only reaffirming my generalization about system transition.
I've yet to study socionics to it's full extent in order to be able to claim anything about the real difference in and of itself.
You accused me of preaching MBTI and then said the same thing MBTI practitioners would.
Also I am not preaching anything, I'm saying it's similar, it reminds me of...
Accusations of me?
Of me how?
Just mentioning MBTI you asses are making indignant hissy fits. It doesn't matter what I actually said, you're all too above and beyond MBTI to even read what's written.
Any type can lead to any Enneagram. And Enneagram is the main cause for mistyping. Since MBTI gives wiggle room and allows grabbing onto arbitrary description pieces, Ennegrams go for what they desire.
So 4s often think they're MBTI INFJ for example. 8s tend to go for NTJ and STP. 3s NTJ etc.
That doesn't make their type at all. Enneagram talks about inner motivation, not cognition. Even though general correlation is possible, but to a small degree and not enough to be mixed with MBTI.
Descriptions generalise, functions are precise. You
can, not fit a generalization, but you can't fail to fit your functions. So if you have this bit here that sounds like you but a bucket of other stuff over there, sorry, but you're not a special little flower without type. Your type is over there as far as MBTI is concerned.
That's why no one among MBTI practitioners with a brain pays much attention to them. People know they're either completely vague, or utter nonsense. MBTI either hinges on function based research, or it has nothing.
I don't know yet what the socionics attitude is, but it seems to me it's different from MBTI with descriptions being more valued.
Personality Cafe INFJ forum is crawling with INFP 4s epecially. INFPs in general.
While INFJs are by enlarge in the INTP and INTJ sections. Especially the males.
Why?
Ok, good for you. Translate them, will ya?
Is it in Russian?
And why tell me you can? Why don't you?
Are you name dropping here?
That's a big problem for me. It means you'll just gloat while refusing to help me learn.
Don't be a selfish ass.