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    Is this a typical ESI look? What is the typical ESI look?



    (Her name is "Foxy Di" and she is a porn-star)

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    Somewhat yes. Lips more smacked together aomewhat sternly

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    I think there's a stare, and a weird thing that happens at the mouth.







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    there isn't really a typical look... it varies lot for any type depending on subtype, Etype, stacking and other factors.

    for this girl I would guess SEE > ESI (sp/so)

    the rational/Fi sub ESIs often get this squinted, guarded "centurion" look that is captured in Filatova's portraits: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ortraits-Gamma

    a few other pics:


    Charlotte James: ESI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b333P57E9Wc



    Yasmine Hamdan: ESI-Se e6
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mJIKlQ6Rtc



    Zemfira: ESI-Se (sp/so 4w3)
    (the song linked is called "No chances, no variations")
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeIyPw4lLFA



    Ella Yelich-O'Connor (Lorde): ESI-Se (so/sp 4w3)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt4OeI3Q6gk



    Claire Boucher (Grimes): ESI-Se sp/so 6w7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-PHIpYm8k0



    Emilie Tisdale: ESI-Fi sp/so
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRUyWx89VUQ



    Marina Ahmedova: ESI-Se
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKx9hKzFq4c



    Louise Lecavalier: ESI-Fi sp (2w1?)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVKg-ZNc-NE



    JayFunk: ESI-Se
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyMfpJh3h4A



    Matt Heafy: ESI-Se
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHefJYTOyGg



    Zlatan Ibrahimovic: ESI-Se so/sx 9w8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aTP8DGdaOk



    Wayne Goss: ESI-Se sp/so
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPvbPhM_4EE



    Armando Cristian Pérez (Pitbull): ESI-Se so/sx 3w2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGw55Hl_pc4



    Arash Dibazar: ESI-Se so/sx 3w4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjElqCjmpwA



    Jay Kay ESI-Fi sp/sx 6w7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk-m9EzE3kM



    River Phoenix: ESI-Fi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWZ4E4zy2SE



    Nev Schulman: ESI-Fi so/sx
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJEJULFi5Y4



    Frank Ocean: ESI sp/sx
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNsMcRheqM4



    Brandon Boyd: ESI-Fi so/sx 6w7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGxT19Bee0A



    Paul Van Haver (Stromae): ESI-Fi sp/so 6w5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooKphdJ3B4Q

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    I also think the woman in the OP looks more SEE, Fi subtype, than ESI. I have an idea of a typical ESI look, at least one variant of ESI, but can't immediately think of many famous examples. I'd say the most immediate example that comes to mind is Jennifer Beals. And maybe that one angel chick from Touched by an Angel.
    Life's a bitch and she's got me pussy whipped.

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    The girl in the op looks irrational ...there's a certain finesse in her features ... too relaxed, too casual ... SEE-Fi or IEI/IEE something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    I think there's a stare, and a weird thing that happens at the mouth.






    they're just...not smiling. that's what they're doing with their mouths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    I think there's a stare, and a weird thing that happens at the mouth.







    Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENTJ8w7sxso View Post
    Is this a typical ESI look? What is the typical ESI look?



    (Her name is "Foxy Di" and she is a porn-star)
    SEE

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    I think what's been posted here is a great indicator for the feel OP is looking for. Don't worry LIE usually make us smile and laugh. I see smiles and laughs like everything else. If you're funny I'll laugh. Its annoying when guys say ''smile more" I'm like "be more pleasing" anyway our faces resemble very clearly what we're feeling. Allot of times we're thinking about problem solving or deep questions. Good conversation is all it takes.

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    I really agree with Stromae, the musician in the yellow shirt, being ESI and having an ESI look

    Just saw Coffee in Berlin/Oh Boy and I think Tom Schilling might hit the mark for ESI:

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    Tom-Schilling-Farbensport.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrina View Post
    I think what's been posted here is a great indicator for the feel OP is looking for. Don't worry LIE usually make us smile and laugh. I see smiles and laughs like everything else. If you're funny I'll laugh. Its annoying when guys say ''smile more" I'm like "be more pleasing" anyway our faces resemble very clearly what we're feeling. Allot of times we're thinking about problem solving or deep questions. Good conversation is all it takes.
    We are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    We are?
    Your avatar made this irresistible.




    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     







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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    I think there's a stare, and a weird thing that happens at the mouth.






    They all have piercing dead eyes, like they're judging you into your soul. They almost look reptilian.

    Btw, and I don't mean this in an offensive way, but most gamma people give me a somewhat stiff reptilian vibe, except for SEE of course. I'm not sure why this is, probably just a beta point of view.
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    They all have piercing dead eyes, like they're judging you into your soul. They almost look reptilian.

    Btw, and I don't mean this in an offensive way, but most gamma people give me a somewhat stiff reptilian vibe, except for SEE of course. I'm not sure why this is, probably just a beta point of view.
    Ouch man!! I'm not sure how you can say that without being offensive. It kind of just is offensive.
    Well.. from my gamma point of view, most beta people give me a somewhat fake/manipulative vibe ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by May View Post
    Ouch man!! I'm not sure how you can say that without being offensive. It kind of just is offensive.
    Well.. from my gamma point of view, most beta people give me a somewhat fake/manipulative vibe
    Lol no offense taken here, I'm aware beta comes off that way, some think betas are obnoxious too
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Lol no offense taken here, I'm aware beta comes off that way, some think betas are obnoxious too :P
    Yes, it's a bit of funny comment right? How should an ESI respond..

    "Hmm.. well yeah. Now that you mention it I think I am actually reptile-like. I'm even literally cold blooded and the only time I can get really warm is if I go to the beach in the middle of summer!!" :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by May View Post
    Yes, it's a bit of funny comment right? How should an ESI respond..

    "Hmm.. well yeah. Now that you mention it I think I am actually reptile-like. I'm even literally cold blooded and the only time I can get really warm is if I go to the beach in the middle of summer!!"
    Those pics that gave me that vibe, not all ESI people
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    You do know I was joking in that last comment, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    They all have piercing dead eyes, like they're judging you into your soul. They almost look reptilian.

    Btw, and I don't mean this in an offensive way, but most gamma people give me a somewhat stiff reptilian vibe, except for SEE of course. I'm not sure why this is, probably just a beta point of view.
    Haha, really?!
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrina View Post
    I think what's been posted here is a great indicator for the feel OP is looking for. Don't worry LIE usually make us smile and laugh. I see smiles and laughs like everything else. If you're funny I'll laugh. Its annoying when guys say ''smile more" I'm like "be more pleasing" anyway our faces resemble very clearly what we're feeling. Allot of times we're thinking about problem solving or deep questions. Good conversation is all it takes.
    where do you find these guys who tell others to smile more? that's so off-putting and controlling. it would quickly be a non-relationship between us. luckily I've only keep hearing of them, none of the people I've met haver ever attempted to order around facial expressions of others like this.

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    http://personalitycafe.com/infj-foru...infj-isfp.html

    does this person ESI?

    "Am I INFJ or ISFP?!
    this has been confusing me for the longest time. i've read through both types extensively and i'm still stumped. what are some of the major differences between the two?

    i'm a guy. 100% overthinking introvert, but i force myself to put on the phony extroverted act when i'm out in the world because i don't want to be thought of as boring.

    can't relate to anyone. 100% outsider loner.

    have an extreme appreciation for aesthetics/beauty in nature to the point of feeling overwhelmed walking outside. very socially anxious. i dress fashionably, but understated. not too flashy, but obviously different. sort of like Johnny depp. i do care very much about how i look, but hate being seeing as "trying too hard".

    i am always thinking about the human body and am super aware and appreciative of my heart and all the processes going on inside of me. when i'm at the grocery store or on the bus i will be looking around at everyone, amazed at how they all have these astonishing things going on inside of them allowing them to be alive. i have an elitist, condescending view on the general population because i see people just walking through the grocery store on their cell phones without a care in the world, unaware of the extremely important, intricate bodily processes going on inside of them. it is obviously an extremely unrealistic expectation of mine for everyone to constantly be in awe every time their heart beats, but i just feel that our eye sight/breathing/hearing is VERY overlooked/taken for granted until we start to lose it.

    i am extremely perceptive and aware of others and believe other people feel uncomfortable around me because i can figure their entire being out in just a short time sitting with them.

    i'm not easily fooled.

    if someone insults me or goes against my values, i can and will completely shut them out of my life and never see them again, forever. even a semi-close family member. don't care. you get around 3 chances. if you're still shitty to me after that you're gone. i rarely forgive.

    i was absolutely terrible at history in school because i didn't see how remembering the birth date of a president or knowing the outcome of some ancient battle was going to be useful in my lifetime.

    i take my time with everything. slow-moving. don't rush, no matter what the situation.

    buddhist views.

    my life would be nothing without music.

    i can stare at a cat drinking water or a bird eating seeds for 30 minutes and not get bored admiring the extreme details such as the way the bird blinks, the cat's whiskers, etc.

    i'm also very much a realist. i see things how they are, warts and all. never lie. will admit when i did something wrong every time.

    i will post more. i hope i didn't come off as narcissistic or anything! thanks.

    oh, and i also very much agree with the quote, "Nowadays people know the price of everything but the value of nothing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by sev View Post
    Mebbe maybe? Could sound ESI to me at least.

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    The functions are correct for ESI. MBTI ISFP is Fi/Se, much like the socionics ISFj. Trouble is the mbti ISFJ is known as the "guardian". ISFJ functions are Si/Fe like an SEI. Apparently there isn't much correlation so I'm confused by how the two systems meet up with introverts?

    I can relate to much of the above description. Except: the 100 loner bit. And the non-forgiving part. That just seems pretty immature developmentally. And the non-rushing parts. I can rush. And I can and do lie. I think this last part is a product of upbringing and how I survived. I can remember the first time I told a big fib. To a teacher in grade 2. I felt shame about it for years. I consciously make an effort to be authentic, even to my sometimes detriment. Integrity counts for a lot in my life.
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    The functions are correct for ESI. MBTI ISFP is Fi/Se, much like the socionics ISFj. Trouble is the mbti ISFJ is known as the "guardian". ISFJ functions are Si/Fe like an SEI. Apparently there isn't much correlation so I'm confused by how the two systems meet up with introverts?

    I can relate to much of the above description. Except: the 100 loner bit. And the non-forgiving part. That just seems pretty immature developmentally. And the non-rushing parts. I can rush. And I can and do lie. I think this last part is a product of upbringing and how I survived. I can remember the first time I told a big fib. To a teacher in grade 2. I felt shame about it for years. I consciously make an effort to be authentic, even to my sometimes detriment. Integrity counts for a lot in my life.
    Hmmm. Could the difference be due to gender/age....?
    With my ESI ex, I can see him in his own way qualifying for the on-his-own thing, non-forgiving thing, and not-wanting-to-rush thing.

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    @May

    I know, those are my some of my vices that also heard commented on by exs.
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    @wacey

    Yeah
    The thing is, from my perspective none of those things were really vices to me.
    I could see how some people could see it that way. But they can represent (a maybe latent) integrity to me.
    Duals or whatever I guess?

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    I can be honest, or I can lie. Hrrm. I'll choose neither.

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