socionics concepts in a single word
Here are mine:
organization
attention
alternative
excitation
causality
foresight
sensuality
empathy
ego block - intention
id block - reflex
superego - guilt
super id- desire
alphas - creation
betas - institutionalization
gammas - revolution
deltas - self preservation
I'd agree with most of this except I'm not sure I'd associate gamma with being revolutionary. Seems like they are more likely to take what's already there and fine-tune it, make it more efficient. Perhaps optimization as the word to describe gamma.
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
I know I was only supposed to use one word for each concept, but I couldn't stop myself there. I hope you'll forgive me.
Te - function, action, purpose
Se - look, scene, picture
Ne - concept, theory, abstraction
Fe - emotion, vibe, buzz ("energy" is another good one, IMO)
Ti - order, system, consistency
Ni - time, forecast, history
Si - comfort, sensuality, body
Fi - feeling, sensitivity, personal
I like your choices for the blocks of the psyche. I would, however, use "insecurity" to describe the superego block rather than "guilt".
Te - Diligence
Se - Agency
Ne - Potentiality
Fe - Discerning
Ti - Structure
Si - Homeostasis
Ni - Prudence
Fi - Passion
Alpha - Creation
Beta - Revolutionize
Gamma - Optimize
Delta - Sustainment
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Alphas - Implementation
Betas - Imperialization
Gamma - Optimization
Delta - Industrialization
MBTI: INTJ
Socionics:ILI (Ni-Fi)
Enneagram Type: 5w4
Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9 Heart-4
Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx Mid
Jung's 12 Archetypes: Self-Sage, Ego-Hero, Soul-Rebel
Nice try but
(I see a few things of interest in heavynurse's list, though)
If Fe is sentimentality, then I'm a null Fe type.Originally Posted by Agarina
Its challenging to conceptionlize and condense a entire idea or topic into a single word. Why don't you give it a try if you think you can do better.Nice try but
(I see a few things of interest in heavynurse's list, though)
MBTI: INTJ
Socionics:ILI (Ni-Fi)
Enneagram Type: 5w4
Enneagram Tritype: Head-5, Gut-9 Heart-4
Instinctal Stacking: Sp/Sx Mid
Jung's 12 Archetypes: Self-Sage, Ego-Hero, Soul-Rebel
Yeah, you're right. I wouldn't try it in the first place, that was my point.
It has come to my attention that there is a particular EII who would like to thank you for being you. This EII also says "θ＼(；￢_￢)ﾉ彡".
The EII says that it is a whimsical pierced fisherman swatting bugs, and that because it looks terrific it's probably somehow relevant, but isn't sure.I don't understand.Is that a picture of a patronizing tap on my head?
Nice list. How did you get discerning for Fe though?
Potency for
Alphas - Implementation
Betas - Imperialization
Gamma - Optimization
Delta - Industrialization
Good call insecurity fits it better. I was also thinking "shame" as using it often leads to self-recrimination.
Also "energy" for Fe is nice, I've heard it described as movement too.
Nice try but
(I see a few things of interest in heavynurse's list, though)
Haha well it's just an exercise in abstraction, probably not more useful than those threads describing each function in terms of a picture.
I've got another list of words I associate with the functions. There might be some redundancy.
Te - movement, efficiency, algorithm
Se - present, appearance, perceptible
Ne - notional, hypothetical, metaphysical
Fe - collective, manners, expectations
Ti - classification, category, structure
Ni - future, prediction, vision
Si - somatic, kinesthesia, proprioception
Fi - partiality, kindness, empathy
"shame" is nice. I think "defensive" wouldn't be bad, either. or maybe "touchy", or "sensitive".
do you mean physical movement?
nope just movement, actually " I move". it's from here: http://www.socioniko.net/en/articles/lytovs-intro1.html
Same page calls Se, "I influence", Te "I make useful actions, Ne= "I look through", Ni = time, Fi= relation, Ti=law, rule, Si= sensation
what about "loyalty" ?
I tried to pick words that haven't been used yet:
Te – Ascertainment
Se – Force
Ne – Opportunity
Fe – Vitality
Ti – Analysis
Ni – Anticipation
Si – Perception
Fi – Judgement
Quadras, just to laugh a bit
Alpha – space
Beta – war
Gamma – profit
Delta – couch !!
somewhere along these lines:
ti - schema, dissection, equation, extrication, axiomatic
te - factuality, pragmatism, business, erudition
si - corporeal, akolasia, homeostasis, awareness
se - authority, status, physicality, presence
fi - moral ideology, psychological distance, mediation, bias
fe - spasmodic, expression, intensity, emotional array
ni - diachrony, chronology, prophetization
ne - insight, idea, purity, curiosity, ingenuity
ipsa scientia potestas est-adaequatio intellectus et rei
Where Te is about taking in data from reputable sources and concreteness of truth. Fe concerns itself with discerning where value lies in the outside stimuli, regardless of whether its proven in any sort of way. Te denotes value through its proven-ness. Fe attempts to read between the lines to ascertain the value of whatever. All Fx's are concerned with value judgements.
Discerning - recognizing something not immediately apparent through judgement. Coming to an understanding.
Thats why i think Fe works.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Sure, prolly half the time I post stuff I'm just bullshitting around. I don't care if you guys undertake this futile, masturbatory exercise.
Mental Masturbation is jsut another way of coming to grip.
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Now I know why my EII sister always tells my ESE sister, my IEI brother, or me, when we all get together, to, "stop being a spazz" when we get too excited.She is totally more "controlled" in her emotional expressions and the most easily embarrassed, by our antics, out of anyone in my family. The three of us used to sing really loud with the windows open when we got together at my EII sister's house. It kind of made her really embarrassed and a little angry because she did not want her neighbors to think it was her.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
lmao, see it all makes sense now-glad i've been able to explain (:Now I know why my EII sister always tells my ESE sister, my IEI brother, or me, when we all get together, to, "stop being a spazz" when we get too excited.
ipsa scientia potestas est-adaequatio intellectus et rei
S = What
N = Why
T = How
F = When
I/E = Where
Ahhhh, mental masturbation. Feels sooo goood.
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
haha that is cool, i love couch for deltas
this is quite insightful, well done
Last edited by mfckr; 12-11-2014 at 03:46 AM.
i don't like that tooNow I know why my EII sister always tells my ESE sister, my IEI brother, or me, when we all get together, to, "stop being a spazz" when we get too excited.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
yes
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Hm some of these are good, so I feel like a bigger bitch than usual.
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