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    What's the best way for purging them and never experiencing any again??!

    I don't mean specific emotions, but all emotions at large.

    There was no place that destruction did not touch...At best it made everything feel flooded, urgent, while pushing towards decay and exposing the imminent failure of managing to maintain a form at all. Inside this was the kernel of wholeness. She could be broken down into a small, granular piece, a bit of debris jostling against other bits of debris, and in that friction there was some sense of having a boundary or a presence, and that thing-ness of the self, reduced to a basic instinctive sensation, was an almost-nothing feeling that, in its small hard knot of a numb halo, made it clear to her that you were here, you were now.

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    Your popcorn makes me thing you are trolling lol

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    I feel quirky about it, but it's a serious question in so far as i'm 100% curious about answers.
    There was no place that destruction did not touch...At best it made everything feel flooded, urgent, while pushing towards decay and exposing the imminent failure of managing to maintain a form at all. Inside this was the kernel of wholeness. She could be broken down into a small, granular piece, a bit of debris jostling against other bits of debris, and in that friction there was some sense of having a boundary or a presence, and that thing-ness of the self, reduced to a basic instinctive sensation, was an almost-nothing feeling that, in its small hard knot of a numb halo, made it clear to her that you were here, you were now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    I feel quirky about it, but it's a serious question in so far as i'm 100% curious about answers.
    Look into practicing detachment, then you can become more bullet proof

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    What's the best way for purging them and never experiencing any again??!

    I don't mean specific emotions, but all emotions at large.

    Lobotomy will work for what you're wanting.

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    lobotomy seems like an attractive option
    There was no place that destruction did not touch...At best it made everything feel flooded, urgent, while pushing towards decay and exposing the imminent failure of managing to maintain a form at all. Inside this was the kernel of wholeness. She could be broken down into a small, granular piece, a bit of debris jostling against other bits of debris, and in that friction there was some sense of having a boundary or a presence, and that thing-ness of the self, reduced to a basic instinctive sensation, was an almost-nothing feeling that, in its small hard knot of a numb halo, made it clear to her that you were here, you were now.

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    You make such cute threads.

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    Why? Emotions are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Why? Emotions are great!
    except when you think you can function better w/ a lobotomy than w/ emotions!
    There was no place that destruction did not touch...At best it made everything feel flooded, urgent, while pushing towards decay and exposing the imminent failure of managing to maintain a form at all. Inside this was the kernel of wholeness. She could be broken down into a small, granular piece, a bit of debris jostling against other bits of debris, and in that friction there was some sense of having a boundary or a presence, and that thing-ness of the self, reduced to a basic instinctive sensation, was an almost-nothing feeling that, in its small hard knot of a numb halo, made it clear to her that you were here, you were now.

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    Control your facial muscles, for starters. Smiling can make one feel happier and frowning can make one feel sadder. Also, get really busy with stuff that requires concentration but not much creativity. And mentally repeat, "I am a robot. I am a robot." to yourself. (I have personal experience with this. These methods work with 83% reliability.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    I think the real question here is what's wrong?
    no, nothing, I think I just have a morbid sense of humor.

    in general it was spurred by wondering how to focus and get more things done, i'm so emotional it always gets in the way.

    thanks for asking
    There was no place that destruction did not touch...At best it made everything feel flooded, urgent, while pushing towards decay and exposing the imminent failure of managing to maintain a form at all. Inside this was the kernel of wholeness. She could be broken down into a small, granular piece, a bit of debris jostling against other bits of debris, and in that friction there was some sense of having a boundary or a presence, and that thing-ness of the self, reduced to a basic instinctive sensation, was an almost-nothing feeling that, in its small hard knot of a numb halo, made it clear to her that you were here, you were now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    Ooh now I'm curious, what's your enneagram type? I'm a 9 so my emotion of SLOTTHHHH gets in my way but I don't think that's what you meant lol
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    There was no place that destruction did not touch...At best it made everything feel flooded, urgent, while pushing towards decay and exposing the imminent failure of managing to maintain a form at all. Inside this was the kernel of wholeness. She could be broken down into a small, granular piece, a bit of debris jostling against other bits of debris, and in that friction there was some sense of having a boundary or a presence, and that thing-ness of the self, reduced to a basic instinctive sensation, was an almost-nothing feeling that, in its small hard knot of a numb halo, made it clear to her that you were here, you were now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    ahhhh I see. Makes sense. Well good luck with that lol *pats on back*
    aww

    good luck with sloth! lolol
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    Make good friends who will listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holon View Post
    Make good friends who will listen.
    Hi Holon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    What's the best way for purging them and never experiencing any again??!

    I don't mean specific emotions, but all emotions at large.

    Try to kinda rationally repeat to yorself that you're not feeling them when they emerge ("I'll be fine, I'm too good for this emotion" ). Detach from them or block them. But you have to do it asap before they spread like a plague.

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    Unfortunately, I think it's an oxymoron... the best way to purge emotions is to experience them and let them run their course. They only stick around if you try to block them or stuff them. So yeah, maybe go on an intense emotional frenzy so you can compress all that icky feelingish stuff into as short a time as possible, then toss that ultra dense emotional matter out the window, and try not to hit anyone on the head as you do so.

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    You'll miss them when they're gone.

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    Emotions help you understand, sympathize, and get on well with people. They are certainly a very important development in the social interaction with people. As far as helping you get things done it's better to accept your emotions and befriend people who focus on tasks who can encourage you to do whatever it is you need motivation and external encouragement on.

    Productivity is over rated...we all die. You can lead a balanced healthy life. You don't have to shove emotions aside and become super machine. Not good.

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    @lemontrees



    I empathize, relate, feel ya...

    I tend to wallow for a while and placate myself with platitudes.

    i.e. this too shall pass, blah blah blah



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    @<a href="http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/member.php?u=2392" target="_blank">lemontrees</a>



    I empathize, relate, feel ya...

    I tend to wallow for a while and placate myself with platitudes.

    i.e. this too shall pass, blah blah blah


    There you go



    Feel better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty View Post
    Unfortunately, I think it's an oxymoron... the best way to purge emotions is to experience them and let them run their course. They only stick around if you try to block them or stuff them. So yeah, maybe go on an intense emotional frenzy so you can compress all that icky feelingish stuff into as short a time as possible, then toss that ultra dense emotional matter out the window, and try not to hit anyone on the head as you do so.
    This. To deny, stuff down emotions is to create a future volcano, ime. I don't like splashing my emotions all over people, so when I become aware that I'm feeling something strongly I'll patiently find a safe place, then encourage my emotions to come out full force in whatever way they want. For me, crying is therapeutic. Dancing to myself, listening to music, wandering in my imagination, reliving past experiences, creating new imaginary experiences that let me "fix" things, sometimes physical activity, whatever it takes. I've found once I let my emotions out and really feel them in all their painful glory I'm MUCH better able to continue interacting with the world in a stable, even rational way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    What's the best way for purging them and never experiencing any again??!

    I don't mean specific emotions, but all emotions at large.

    I've been wondering the same thing lately. I wish I was a robot.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Certain kinds of emotions and specific sources and experiences that provoke them can be so dangerous and destructive that it really makes me wish I was immune to experiencing any and all of them. I would give up the "good" ones just to avoid being influenced by all the other ones.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    I'm not my body, I HAVE a body.
    I'm not my emotions, I HAVE emotions
    I'm not my thoughts, i HAVE thoughts.

    Selective dissociation mantra takes some training to get to work though.

    As others have said; you're probably better of WITH them than without. Robots aren't too interesting.

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    Whenever I feel emotionally numb it's a really lifeless and empty feeling. You disassociate with the world around you and then wonder why there is even a point to life in the first place. I don't know why someone would want to feel so void like that. You need to feel things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    What's the best way for purging them and never experiencing any again??!

    I don't mean specific emotions, but all emotions at large.

    Stress over every little thing. Then proceed to dump any emotions you feel into a bottomless dark hole within your soul. Keep doing this until you end up with depression.

    Then, regret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post
    Stress over every little thing. Then proceed to dump any emotions you feel into a bottomless dark hole within your soul. Keep doing this until you end up with depression.

    Then, regret.
    Finally, hug your Fe PoLR dual. Everything is okay now.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    The buddhist way of no desire, attachment and particular perspectives make emotions mild and manageable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I don't know why someone would want to feel so void like that.
    For productivity. Life is more interesting with feelings. But if you have a large workload, you might want to be rid of them for a while.

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    Without emotions you wouldn't be able to make even the simplest of decisions. You would be unable to place value weights on differing choices. Your mind would just keep going over and over criteria for making the choice/decision, but never reach a stopping point of actually making the decision.

    Emotions lead us to being interested in things, approaching some things, and avoiding other things, etc. You wouldn't even feel compelled to move out of the way of an oncoming car.

    Basically, without emotion, you would need someone else to tell you what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. You would be little more than somebody else's puppet.
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    I think there's balance, like sometimes emotions are more relevant and other times it's more useful to put them aside (if it's possible.)

    but obviously everybody has them and they are important, a huge part of being human
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    Emotions are just chemical reactions in your brain that are hard to manage.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anndelise View Post
    You wouldn't even feel compelled to move out of the way of an oncoming car.


    Can you see the feels?

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    Emotions are just chemical reactions in your brain that are hard to manage.
    This.

    I think most people grossly overestimate emotions. So many think they're some magical forces coming from your soul while they're actually just extremely complex mechanisms. They are nothing more than cheap tricks to keep animals active and striving for better lives, food and reproduction. The puppet strings of nature, so to speak. Don't get me wrong, I do believe we couldn't really live completely without emotions. But only because they give us the illusion of purpose in a world which has no purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post


    Can you see the feels?



    This.

    I think most people grossly overestimate emotions. So many think they're some magical forces coming from your soul while they're actually just extremely complex mechanisms. They are nothing more than cheap tricks to keep animals active and striving for better lives, food and reproduction. The puppet strings of nature, so to speak. Don't get me wrong, I do believe we couldn't really live completely without emotions. But only because they give us the illusion of purpose in a world which has no purpose.
    You're absolutely right, emotions give us the illusion of purpose. But subjectively speaking that's so important! You could live your entire live being right (like an ILI would) without it being meaningfull to you (or others) (here ILI would say that there's no objective reason while being objectively right wouldn't be worth it and he'd be right).

    Anyway, the nature of the human animal is da feelz, Most fun things are completely stupid, irrational and evolutionary questionable and i like it that way


    in the end playing it by the evolutionary rules or actually understanding the world or knowing that emo's are just idiotic is as meaningless as the emos themselves...all is naught and all will be gone, but untill i'm dead i'm gonna make sure i at least fucking enjoy it

    (yes enjoyment is a chemical reaction, here's a poptart!)


    Edit: that coffee dodging router has a hypnotic effect on me, i've been looking at it for at least 3 minutes straight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    in the end playing it by the evolutionary rules or actually understanding the world or knowing that emo's are just idiotic is as meaningless as the emos themselves...all is naught and all will be gone, but untill i'm dead i'm gonna make sure i at least fucking enjoy it
    That's a common way to think of it. But those emotions which make life enjoyable are also responsible for people's suffering. And people are not designed to be happy, at least not for a longer period of time. We're like addicts who get high on positive feelings and hit rock bottom once our body's drugs stop flowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pa3s View Post
    That's a common way to think of it. But those emotions which make life enjoyable are also responsible for people's suffering. And people are not designed to be happy, at least not for a longer period of time. We're like addicts who get high on positive feelings and hit rock bottom once our body's drugs stop flowing.

    There's no fundamental difference between you hugging your girlfriend under a christmas tree or smoking crack behind a garbage can.
    No fundemental difference nope Although the fairly complex web of emotions can make you feel guilty for smoking crack or hugging some other persons girlfriend, even though that doesn't make sense.

    we're like addicts, but in the absense of the option of not being addicted (to emotions/highs) that isn't really a bad thing.

    I'd say if you would try to maximize happiness hugging your girlfriend is probably more sustainable than smoking crack because the former will deplete your serotonine less extremely and such, and the subjective qualia are different (the closest analogy would be XTC loving strangers and loving your girlfriend).

    but yes we agree but you're just looking at the grim part of the same coin while i prefer the well polished fun-mirror side ;-)

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    excess pain over time leads to dulled emotions. that is if you have any self-preservation instincts at all. eventually you become numb. or insane.
    maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
    maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
    go ask the frog what the scorpion knows

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