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    Default INFps and ENFjs: are you musically adept?

    Or play some sort of instrument?

    I've noticed that a lot of EIE/IEIs that I've encountered in life (mainly at church) were involved with music.

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    Dont know if this is more common in Beta NF's, but I am classically trained in acoustic guitar. Am only playing it sometimes for fun now, though.

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    Most people on here will have some sort of musical ability in comparison to general population

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    I've played piano, bass, electric guitar and ukulele. Not really great at any of them but I enjoy playing, especially piano. I would love to be able to write my own music.

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    Yes.

    I've known a lot of musicians, they come in lots of non-beta-nf types.

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    Cool stuff.

    To those that answered, what would do you think is your motivation for playing music?

    For example, for EIEs, is it being able to connect with the audience and having adoring fans??

    For IEI, is being able to express your thoughts and feelings??

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    Things it's meant to me:

    * a challenge to master
    * patterning that makes me think better
    * a place in my head I could escape to when things were shitty
    * physical release
    * a way to communicate
    * a means to work with other people on a creative project
    * a place to put excess emotion
    * a connection with the history of western classical music
    * intense sensual pleasure

    Stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDEN View Post
    Yes.

    I've known a lot of musicians, they come in lots of non-beta-nf types.
    Yes. NTR. Very NTR.



    musical style, practice habits, strengths/weaknesses might be type related. But being a good musician is not.
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    Yes they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suz View Post
    Yes. NTR. Very NTR.



    musical style, practice habits, strengths/weaknesses might be type related. But being a good musician is not.

    While I agree that types aren't not the end-all-be-all to be good musician,

    I do believe that personality type does influence whether or not you play an instrument in the first place, and therefore be musically-adept down the line.

    For example this statement:

    In his 1990 Ph.D dissertation, C.F. Gibbons of the University of Arkansas found that the INFP type was the most common among musicians
    Also, take a look at the data from another study (MacLellan, 2011):



    When compared to published high school norms (MBTI, 1998), the combined sample of
    ensemble musicians was significantly more likely to be Intuitive (N), Feeling (F), and Perceiving (P).
    You can assume these types/people will continue practicing and therefore they'd get pretty good down the line.

    So yeah, I think it's safe to say it can be type-related.
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    Uh the chart has ENFp outnumbering the other types by a long shot. Why does the first quote say INFp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post
    While I agree that types aren't not the end-all-be-all to be good musician,

    I do believe that personality type does influence whether or not you play an instrument in the first place, and therefore be musically-adept down the line.

    For example this statement:



    Take a look at the data from the study:





    You can assume these types/people will continue practicing and therefore they'd get pretty good down the line.

    So yeah, I think it's safe to say it can be type-related.
    Haha.

    MBTI is the same thing that types scientists or quiet slightly unusual thinking types as INTx right

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLDEN View Post
    Uh the chart has ENFp outnumbering the other types by a long shot. Why does the first quote say INFp?
    Seperate studies. I edited/clarified it. Table is with 2nd quote
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    I played violin until 7th grade. I was in school choir until then too. I also strummed a guitar for awhile but my hands were too small to really do anything with it so I got frustrated. Now I just play other people's music every chance I get and dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I played violin until 7th grade. I was in school choir until then too. I also strummed a guitar for awhile but my hands were too small to really do anything with it so I got frustrated. Now I just play other people's music every chance I get and dance.
    Sweet, what's your typing Aylen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post
    Sweet, what's your typing Aylen?
    "Erato is the muse associated with lyric poetry, with the lyre, with love poetry and hymns."

    Apparently a type who takes her individuality so serious she encodes it.

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    Yes; I was in choir in HS, started playing guitar around senior year (and still do), and studied Piano, Music Theory, Sight Reading and Digital Music in college. Haven't found a use for any of it yet, but it's certainly a fun challenge to learn a new song; writing them, OTOH, is a totally different beast which I've yet to really become even an amateur at. I'd like to write some music for a video game some day, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    Most people on here will have some sort of musical ability in comparison to general population
    Why is that

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    Yes.

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