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    I can never read all the books I want; I can never be all the people I want and live all the lives I want. I can never train myself in all the skills I want. And why do I want? I want to live and feel all the shades, tones and variations of mental and physical experience possible in my life. And I am horribly limited.

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    Sylvia Plath is my favorite poet. She was not only a descendant of Modernism and the Romantics, she was a poet that cared about her own feelings so much that she cared about yours. She had some fucked up shit happen in her life, but who cares about that? We all suffer and that has everything to do with poetics. Have you ever heard of Modernism? The Nazis called Modernism primitive and the work of the brutes. The only brutes on this earth are the dogs and those are the things that I love. Do you wonder what I am? You are reading the work of a great poet, possibly one of the greatest ones of your time. If I am standing in front of you right now, you are listening to the voice of one of the greatest poets of your time. Do you take time to analyze greatness? I don’t think you should bother–you will never get it right. I am both a Modernist and a Romantic. All poetry that is good today is some combination of modernism, ethics, and faith. Take note. All poetry that matters today has feelings in it. You can refute or deny this with your lack of them. You can wrestle against feelings and make funny words for it. Take a look in the mirror. You were born a child and you will die one, too. When you are in your grave all that you will be able to say is mommy. You are going to die you know and so am I. That’s it. You were born to die. Take the things you say because you can’t write poems and figure out how to write some. Go to the grocery store and buy some food. Sit alone by yourself and think of how it is, the way it really is. There are a million cells of fluid rushing in your veins. On earth a thousand rivers rush through. The only thing that keeps you contained is the faith God has in your every breath. When you are mean, you let him down, so don’t be. Read Plath. Hell, Read Stein. She was a woman and would have approved of you–you man, you woman, you dog. Bark your last breath while we all swim along a river. There are children playing around you. They know more than you will ever know.
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    We, however, are not prisoners. No traps or snares have been set around us, and there is nothing that should frighten or upset us. We have been put into life as into the element we most accord with, and we have, moreover, through thousands of years of adaptation, come to resemble this life so greatly that when we hold still, through a fortunate mimicry we can hardly be differentiated from everything around us. We have no reason to harbor any mistrust against our world, for it is not against us. If it has terrors, they are our terrors; if it has abysses, these abysses belong to us; if there are dangers, we must try to love them. And if only we arrange our life in accordance with the principle which tells us that we must always trust in the difficult, then what now appears to us as the most alien will become our most intimate and trusted experience. How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love.

    — Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
    “As a general rule, people, even the wicked, are much more naïve and simple-hearted than we suppose. And we ourselves are, too.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
    Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
    I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.
    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
    Time to die.


    Roy Batty, Blade Runner
    And each lonely vagrant that crossed their path,
    Felt how his heart grew cold.
    Yet he marvelled at their scarred faces,
    So beautiful, distant and old.

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    Why did god create a dual universe?
    So he might say
    ‘Be not like me. I am alone.'
    And it might be heard.

    Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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    Felt how his heart grew cold.
    Yet he marvelled at their scarred faces,
    So beautiful, distant and old.

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    Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand.

    Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle
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    Yet he marvelled at their scarred faces,
    So beautiful, distant and old.

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    ...But when music speaks, she speaks not to us. The perfect work of art touches upon us only in that it survives us. A poem enters into language from within, in an aspect forever averted from us. It fills the language wondrously, rising to its very brim – but it never again thrusts toward us. Colors are congealed in a picture, but they are broidered into it like rain into the countryside; and all that the sculptor shows his stone is how it may most splendidly hold itself aloof. Music, indeed, is closer to our heart... but how much of her is beyond our reach, pushes just past us, carries right through us – and we comprehend it not!...

    — Rainer Maria Rilke, from Letters to Benvenuta
    “As a general rule, people, even the wicked, are much more naïve and simple-hearted than we suppose. And we ourselves are, too.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.

    — As You Like It, Act 5, Scene 1
    “As a general rule, people, even the wicked, are much more naïve and simple-hearted than we suppose. And we ourselves are, too.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    Oh, a sleeping drunkard
    Up in Central Park,
    And a lion-hunter
    In the jungle dark,
    And a Chinese dentist,
    And a British queen--
    All fit together
    In the same machine.
    Nice, nice, very nice;
    Nice, nice, very nice;
    Nice, nice, very nice--
    So many different people
    In the same device.

    Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle


    Nowhere and oblivion were completely different things/places to Richard Stein. For
    him, oblivion is when something goes into nothing and nowhere is the place where
    something can come out of nothing.


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    Yet he marvelled at their scarred faces,
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    There is something maddeningly attractive about the untranslatable, about a word that goes silent in transit.

    — Anne Carson, from A Public Space, Issue 7 / 2008
    “As a general rule, people, even the wicked, are much more naïve and simple-hearted than we suppose. And we ourselves are, too.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    Not to suppress suffering (the stupid notion that time will do away with such a thing) but to change it, transform it, to shift it from a static stage (stasis, obstruction, recurrences of the same thing) to a fluid state.
    —Roland Barthes, tr. by Richard Howard, from a diary entry featured in Mourning Diary
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    I promise you, these storms are only trying to wash you clean.

    -Jessica Katoff

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    ''When I write, I become a version of myself that isn’t filtered through the detritus and clutter of experience.''
    "...Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly" (the Skin Horse)

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    Kinda corny but it hits the spot

     

    I.
    On my TV screen,
    a magician talks about the record
    for holding one’s breath
    as his assistant lowers herself
    into a tank of water.
    It’s twenty two minutes.
    I would have sworn it would be longer.
    I would have sworn it would be years.

    II.
    This is how I remember it:
    On our first date,
    he ran his fingertips across my skin
    like he was reading my palm.
    When I fell asleep with my glasses on,
    He slid them off and cleaned them,
    then placed them on my nightstand, every single time.
    Once, I took a sip of wine,
    shrugged,
    and set my glass down on the table.
    He poured it down the sink.
    Then the entire bottle.
    He said, life is too short for bad wine.
    He said, you deserve better.

    III.
    God, I love doing magic tricks.
    I love the way
    I know the lie from the beginning.
    I love the way
    I can see the turn coming.

    IV.
    This is the hardest part–
    That boy is not made of fists.
    This is the hardest part–
    That boy
    learned how to braid my hair.
    These things do not un-truth themselves
    when the first door slams.
    I did not stop loving him
    all the months I was holding my breath.
    This is the hardest part,
    the way a fish is still a fish
    even after she’s been gutted.
    Even after her lip’s split clean in half
    from the hook
    and the hook
    and the hook;
    Do you think the fish blames herself?
    And her own stupid, open mouth?
    Do you think the fisherman apologized?
    Said all he wanted was to hold her?
    Said, I’ve touched that hook for years and it never once pierced me, darling, how could I have known?
    Do you think the fish forgave him?
    Said, I’m sorry, too.
    I promise I’ll try harder
    to breathe outside the water.

    V.
    This is how I remember it.
    He wrote me a song
    for my birthday
    and he played it any time I asked.
    I still sing it all the time,
    without really even noticing,
    the words a fishhook
    caught inside my mouth.
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    "Getting older is a hard thing to explain to anyone who hasn’t done it yet, which I don’t mean in a patronizing way, just a true one: it’s a strange thing to be in a position to know so much about what you could have done differently with no way to redo any of it. (Time travel into the past is theoretically possible but unlikely, as you may know already.) I don’t mean regret, that’s not the same thing, and I don’t mean I wish I could go back and give advice to my younger self, because my younger self would find my current self unfathomable–not insufferable, I don’t think (I hope) but also not likely someone my younger self could ever imagine growing into, and I wouldn’t want to spoil the surprise."
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    There is another world, but it's inside this one.

    Paul Éluard

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    Occasionally I drop a teacup to shatter on the floor.
    On purpose. I’m not satisfied when it doesn’t gather itself up again.
    Someday, perhaps a cup will come together.

    Hannibal Lecter

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    They turn up occasionally in this kind of world. They're trouble.
    They're considered to be outsiders even among the garbage of the underground.
    They usually do a lot of damage to everything and then go away.
    But sometimes they survive, thanks to their bestial instincts or sharp wits.
    They can't live without being over the edge. And they spread disaster.

    Dutch, Black Lagoon

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    To fall in love is to individualize someone by the signs he bears or emits. It is to become sensitive to these signs, to undergo an apprenticeship to them (thus the slow individualization of Albertine in the group of young girls). It may be that friendship is nourished on observation and conversation, but love is born from and nourished on silent interpretation. The beloved appears as a sign, a "soul"; the beloved expresses a possible world unknown to us, implying, enveloping, imprisoning a world that must be deciphered, that is, interpreted. What is involved, here, is a plurality of worlds; the pluralism of love does not concern only the multiplicity of loved beings, but the multiplicity of "souls" or worlds in each of them. To love is to try to explicate, to develop these unknown worlds that remain enveloped within the beloved.

    — Gilles Deleuze, Proust and Signs
    “As a general rule, people, even the wicked, are much more naïve and simple-hearted than we suppose. And we ourselves are, too.” — Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    "Show me disloyalty, I’ll show you detachment."

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    And each lonely vagrant that crossed their path,
    Felt how his heart grew cold.
    Yet he marvelled at their scarred faces,
    So beautiful, distant and old.

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    When we were arguing on my twenty-fourth birthday, she left the kitchen, came back with a pistol, and fired it five times from right across the table. But she missed. It wasn’t my life she was after. It was more. She wanted to eat my heart and be lost in the desert with what she’d done, she wanted to fall on her knees and give birth from it, she wanted to hurt me as only a child can be hurt by its mother.
    —Denis Johnson, Dirty Wedding from Jesus’ Son

    Inspirational..... (lol Jk, i'm just awestruck by how perfect the prose is, I feel it so hard, I keep coming back to it)
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    [Love] promises a way out of our suffering. We suffer from our isolation in our individual separateness. Love reiterates: “If only you possessed the beloved one, your soul sick with loneliness would be one with the soul of the beloved.” Partially at least this promise is a fraud.
    —Georges Bataille, in Erotism: Death and Sensuality


    Yeah. So I'm trying....

    We have come to forget that a large and important part of life consists in our emotions toward such things as roses and nightingales, the dawn, the sunset, life, death and fate; we forget that we spend much time sleeping, dreaming, thinking, reading, alone; we are not entirely occupied in personal relations; all our energies are not absorbed in making our livings…We long sometimes to escape from the incessant, the remorseless analysis of falling into love and falling out of love, of what Tom feels for Judith and Judith does or does not altogether feel for Tom. We long for some more impersonal relationship. We long for ideas, for dreams, for imaginations, for poetry.
    —Virginia Woolf, “The Narrow Bridge of Art”
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    "Once you become consciously aware of just how powerful your thoughts are, you will realize everything in your life is exactly how you allow it to be."

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    "What type of belief can increase the manifestation of synchronicity and its significance?: Total belief in oneself tempered by deep receptivity and empathy to others and the living planet. The world we know and live in may be more mental than we realize. That's the way of culture and cultural trance. If we are to open up to the innate timing of existence, it may not be enough to break cultural trance and open the doors of perception. We may have to walk out through those doors to a place beyond the constructs of the mind itself -- where labels, explanations, and theories fail and where our hearts ignite in a blaze of feral creation." ~ Antero Alli

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    "Perhaps the ‘stress’ is what does this. Though it’s not stress, really, it’s repeated long-term exposure to the possibility of being blown apart suddenly. It’s the length of the exposure that does it to you, I think. When you’re living with that, it seems you have to stop planning for the future in order to face it. You can’t have dreams and hopes and still operate in a world like that. At least I couldn’t, though I didn’t realize it at the time. Maybe it’s just not that easy to live after you accept your death."

    “I loved my last girlfriend so much it felt like I wanted to consume her. Instead, she broke apart trying to keep up with me. She started as this beautiful innocent creature, but she spent two years trying to relate to me and then she was too much with me and she nearly did not pull up in time. It reminds me of a story about an American soldier with his Vietnamese girlfriend during the war there who responded to their issues by getting naked in the shower and fucking with a live grenade suspended between them, which they set off as they came. I wonder how much that girl really wanted to be there, objectively. She only wanted to be with him, and it cost her. I guess he consumed her. I hope she wasn’t faking her orgasms.”


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    “Most of us let our negative emotions persist longer than is necessary. Becoming suddenly angry, we tend to stay angry - and this requires that we actively produce the feeling of anger. We do this by thinking about our reasons for being angry - recalling an insult, rehearsing what we should have said to our malefactor, and so forth - and yet we tend not to notice the mechanics of this process. Without continually resurrecting the feeling of anger, it is impossible to stay angry for more than a few moments”
    Sam Harris, Waking Up: Searching for Spirituality Without Religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    “Most of us let our negative emotions persist longer than is necessary. Becoming suddenly angry, we tend to stay angry - and this requires that we actively produce the feeling of anger. We do this by thinking about our reasons for being angry - recalling an insult, rehearsing what we should have said to our malefactor, and so forth - and yet we tend not to notice the mechanics of this process. Without continually resurrecting the feeling of anger, it is impossible to stay angry for more than a few moments”
    Sam Harris, Waking Up: Searching for Spirituality Without Religion

    this is so Ti it pisses me off; heaven forbid I work through my feelings rather than just cut them off in the middle because "if I stop thinking about it I won't be angry" as if repressed anger weren't a thing. I really feel like Sam Harris is kind of an idiot manchild

    this is the kind of non solution that leads to people exploding down the line

    as if anger itself is wrong. like so what if I'm fanning the flames of my own anger? so what if I do something on the basis of it? the consequences good or bad will lead to learning something. yes if I murder someone cause I was angry and it wasn't justified that's bad. but only the person that bottles everything in in the way he suggests reaches that point. if you understand yourself from day 1 in terms of Fi it won't reach that point, because the filth has clean sewers to process it... anger is the proper response to a lot of things. understanding ones own anger is far more important than refusing to acknowledge anything that provokes it. this is such a stunted way of thinking I feel like it falls into the category of "beliefs so dangerous it may be moral to kill the person for holding it" (this idiocism is another Sam Harrisism, for those who aren't following)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    this is so Ti it pisses me off; heaven forbid I work through my feelings rather than just cut them off in the middle because "if I stop thinking about it I won't be angry" as if repressed anger weren't a thing. I really feel like Sam Harris is kind of an idiot manchild

    this is the kind of non solution that leads to people exploding down the line

    as if anger itself is wrong. like so what if I'm fanning the flames of my own anger? so what if I do something on the basis of it? the consequences good or bad will lead to learning something. yes if I murder someone cause I was angry and it wasn't justified that's bad. but only the person that bottles everything in in the way he suggests reaches that point. if you understand yourself from day 1 in terms of Fi it won't reach that point, because the filth has clean sewers to process it... anger is the proper response to a lot of things. understanding ones own anger is far more important than refusing to acknowledge anything that provokes it. this is such a stunted way of thinking I feel like it falls into the category of "beliefs so dangerous it may be moral to kill the person for holding it" (this idiocism is another Sam Harrisism, for those who aren't following)
    I'm Fi base and this quote struck a chord with me because I get so angry about petty unresolved shit that happened years ago that I need to work on distracting myself in order to function. When there is no recourse, no resolution, no satisfactory outlet, just the feeling in your guts that serves no purpose except self torture? I'd... rather not

    Anger gets a bad rap when it is an appropriate response to injustices imo, and in some contexts it feels reclamatory and relevantly subversive to express it as a woman; I'm definitely not anti-anger.

    Actually, I had this post in mind when I saw it: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1176906
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    The anger thing reminded me of this photoset <3 3 3

     











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    "The eyes are not the windows of the soul: they are the doors. Beware what may enter there."
    — Doctor Who, "The Time of Angels"


    "Magic is afoot, God is alive.


    God is alive, magic is afoot.


    Magic never dies. "
    — Leonard Cohen



    "The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts."
    — Marcus Aurelius



    "Look like the innocent flower,
    But be the serpent under it. "
    — William Shakespeare, Macbeth



    "Though this be madness, yet there is method in’t."
    — William Shakespeare, Hamlet



    "Your soul is the whole world."
    — Hermann Hesse, Siddhartha

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    I love it @LuckyOne .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Bertrand the dumbass really needs to stay away from Socionics. For his own good.
    Who are you referring to here? It had better not be lungs.

    She's given no indication that she's unintelligent. Sadly, I can't say the same for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Who are you referring to here? It had better not be lungs.

    She's given no indication that she's unintelligent. Sadly, I can't say the same for you.
    i think they're trying to call me a dumbass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    i think they're trying to call me a dumbass
    LOL are you serious? Why? Hook me up with this drama.

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