Last edited by Kissum; 01-02-2015 at 05:40 AM.
I would say that ethically you are still supposed to act as if you have unilateral responsibility; but simultaneously you have to be able to see the other as a fully autonomous, free, aware person.
Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it’s a disease, it’s nobody’s fault. Yay empiricism.
9w1 coz you seem calm, well-behaved, shy and fragile like you wouldn't hurt a fly
Nines ever smile?
I don't see w8 in you. So 9w1.
Sylvia Plath — 'I desire the things which will destroy me in the end.'
either 9w1 or 1w9, elsewhere you mentioned something about feelings of frustration which is comes with the 'idealist' triad 1-4-7
I don't see core 1 at all. But don't know about your wing either. You seem pretty balanced - you know how to stand up for yourself, where to draw the line and not to take shit. And you supposedly have a badass temper also Some 9w1 I know look like delicate fragile flowers, that will be blown away any minute, and I just don't get that feeling from you. So I vote balanced. Sorry
I'll give what I think is one big difference between E8 and E1: E1 represents a sort of combination of blocking yet implicit fulfillment of the E234 triad, and so it essentially seeks to, true to instinctual types, maintain the proper way to act on its environment - in its case, "proper" becomes largely about the ego as the cause of its negative experiences, rather than an aversion to objects. As E1 is still instinctual, though, it doesn't actively fixate on the meaning, purpose, and so forth of the ego's existence in the world as a matter of wishing to have significance, and instead focuses on not letting a single negative being attributable to stemming from the ego in its activities against the environment. Note that due to the lack of avoidance of the environment, however, this attitude gets fused with all environmental influences - the lack of adequate separation of the ego from it tends to lead to a compulsive need to disallow anything in the environment which could negate the ego's wish-image, which remains relatively unconscious unlike as in the image triads.
Enneagram 8 on the other hand represents a similar maintenance of distance from the fear triad while in a sense fulfilling the fear triad's attitude indirectly - in place of aversions to things, it seeks instead the most vigorous intensity of force in lusting after objects, essentially the opposite to the emotion of fear. Hence why this type isn't the kind to go around thinking whether they're vulnerable or not - they are more likely to have suppressed the emotion automatically and instinctually. You could say on the other end, E1 and E8 share common wing at E9, which is to say the reason they represent a moving away from the inertia of E9, although an incomplete one.
This person still strikes me as more of a 2 or 7 than 9.