Page 2 of 38 FirstFirst 12345612 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 80 of 1494

Thread: sx/sp

  1. #41
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default



    I hear... a voice say "Don't be so blind"...
    it's telling me all these things...
    that you would probably hide...
    am I... your one and only desire...
    am I the reason you breathe...
    or am I the reason you cry...

    Always... always... always... always... always... always... always...
    I just can't live without you...

    I love you...
    I hate you...
    I can't get around you...
    I breathe you...
    I taste you...
    I can't live without you...
    I just can't take any more...
    this life of solitude...
    I guess that i'm out the door...
    and now i'm done with you...

    I feel... like you don't want me around...
    I guess i'll pack all my things...
    I guess i'll see you around...
    Its all... been bottled up until now...
    as I walk out your door...
    all I hear is the sound...

    Always... always... always... always... always... always... always...
    I just can't live without you...

    I love you...
    I hate you...
    I can't get around you...
    I breathe you...
    I taste you...
    I can't live without you...
    I just can't take any more...
    this life of solitude...
    I guess that i'm out the door...
    and now i'm done with you...

    I love you...
    I hate you...
    I can't live without you...

    I left my head around your heart...
    Why would you tear my world apart...

    Always... always... always... always...

    I see... the blood all over your hands...
    does it make you feel... more like a man...
    was it all... just a part of your plan...
    the pistol's shakin' in my hands...
    and all I hear is the sound...

    I love you...
    I hate you...
    I can't live without you...
    I breathe you...
    I taste you...
    I can't live without you...
    I just can't take any more...
    this life of solitude...
    I guess that i'm out the door...
    and now i'm done with you...

    I love you...
    I hate you...
    I can't live without you...

    I love you...
    I hate you...
    I can't live without you...
    I just can't take any more...
    this life of solitude...
    I pick myself off the floor...
    and now i'm done with you...
    Always...
    Always...
    Always...

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  2. #42
    epheme's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Japan
    TIM
    9w1 sx/sp
    Posts
    425
    Mentioned
    29 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default Married Love by Kuan Tao-sheng (13th century)

    Married Love

    You and I
    Have so much love,
    That it
    Burns like a fire
    In which we bake a lump of clay
    Molded into a figure of you
    And a figure of me.
    Then we take both of them,
    And break them into pieces,
    And mix the pieces with water,
    And mold again a figure of you,
    And a figure of me.
    I am in your clay.
    You are in my clay.
    In life we share a single quilt.
    In death we will share one coffin.

  3. #43
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default



    Not sure about the images in the video but song feels sx/sp. I like how the music starts off mellow then raises and intensifies the energy, then sort of decompresses at the end and achieves some kind of equilibrium. Some images may be more sp/sx. Heh, all subjective, I know.


    If I should die this very moment, I wouldn't fear
    For I've never known completeness like being here
    Wrapped in the warmth of you, loving every breath of you
    Still my heart this moment, oh it might burst

    Could we stay right here till the end of time
    Until the earth stops turning
    Wanna love you until the seas run dry
    I've found the one I've waited for

    All this time I've loved you and never known your face
    All this time I've missed you and searched this human race
    Here is true peace here my heart knows calm
    Safe in your soul bathed in your sighs

    Wanna stay right here till the end of time
    Till the earth stops turning
    Gonna love you until the seas run dry
    I've found the one I've waited for, the one I've waited for

    All I've known, all I've done
    All I've felt was leading to this
    All I've known, all I've done
    All I've felt was leading to this

    Wanna stay right here
    Till the end of time till the earth stops turning
    Gonna love you till the seas run dry
    I've found the one I've waited for, the one I've waited for

    Read more: Lamb - Gorecki Lyrics | MetroLyrics
    Last edited by Aylen; 10-06-2014 at 03:04 PM.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  4. #44
    Glorious Member mu4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Mind
    Posts
    8,174
    Mentioned
    759 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)

    Default



    Love, love is a verb
    Love is a doing word
    Fearless on my breath
    Gentle impulsion
    Shakes me, makes me lighter
    Fearless on my breath
    Teardrop on the fire
    Fearless on my breath

    Night, night of matter
    Black flowers blossom
    Fearless on my breath
    Black flowers blossom
    Fearless on my breath
    Teardrop on the fire
    Fearless on my

    Water is my eye
    Most faithful mirror
    Fearless on my breath
    Teardrop on the fire
    Of a confession
    Fearless on my breath
    Most faithful mirror
    Fearless on my breath
    Teardrop on the fire
    Fearless on my breath

    It's tumbling down (as in love falling apart)
    It's tumbling down (as in love falling apart)

  5. #45
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default





    possibly the "weak sp" range ...

  6. #46
    &papu silke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    5,077
    Mentioned
    456 Post(s)
    Tagged
    3 Thread(s)

    Default

    Looking over this thread I just have to add that overt and showy displays of sexuality isn't sx/sp - soz. This is typical of sx as secondary and even last sexual instinct to be projected outwardly and broadcasted to others in a clear and manifest manner. It is SX as seconary and tertiary instinct that is used to create some shared space. As a primary instinct, it is too close to the person's core, too deep-seated and of significant and vital importance to be openly put to an exhibitionisitic and irrelevant display in such manner. In other words, Sx as a first instinct is internalized, vital, and implicit - rarely showy. So all the overly sex-infused imagery and saccharine sweet exhibitionist love songs and poetry don't belong in the Sx/Sp stacking thread.

    For the SX/SP stack, the creative, outwardly projected, exhibitionist instinct is the self-pres one, SP, which has to do with physical displays and broadcasts (e.g. the picture of plunging eagles that Galen has posted), with overcoming barriers and obstacles, struggle against the environment or nature, interplays of risk and safety, physical overcoming of barriers, reshaping of some physical parameters, etc. etc. and particularly the triumph of life over insurmountable circumstances, that is, the vitalizing and enlivening forces attributed to the SX/SP stacking.

    More images like that, and less of the sugary sweet, fakery and shallow lovey-dovey stuff plox.
    Last edited by silke; 02-04-2015 at 11:27 AM.

  7. #47
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Leo Tolstoy's Father Sergius is a great example for sx/sp. It's the story of a Russian nobleman who decides to become a monk after he discovers his bride-to-be had sex with the tzar. He's a highly sexual person by nature, but also extremely proud and, one may say, addicted to testing his will against circumstances. He cuts one of his fingers one night in order to be able to resist temptation when a famous courtesan visits his home. However later on he gives in to sex with a much less attractive semi-deficient girl whom he was supposed to heal.

    I'm posting info on the European screening of the story not because it's better, but because it has a title very evocative of sx/sp. Also it may be more accessible to numerous sensitivities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun...hines_at_Night

    ***of course, one can trace some roots in the "Saint Anthony" myth which I already posted in the Dali version.
    Last edited by Amber; 10-09-2014 at 01:57 PM.

  8. #48
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default

    My current favorite song...



    The biggest problem I have with finding things to post in these instinct stackings threads is that for me all this stuff is highly symbolic and not representative of outward behavior but what is going on within. If someone explains to me why they see a song, poem, image as a particular stacking then I can often see their perspective but if they don't all the imagery is going to be filtered through my own beliefs and perspective so I may not ever see or feel what they do. I like how @Solaris explains her last post.

    Edit: @silke this was originally in sx/sp thread
    Last edited by Aylen; 03-31-2015 at 09:44 PM.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  9. #49
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ananke View Post
    sx/sp
    This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating. Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union. Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer Examples of sx/sp: Prince, Carl Jung, Johnny Depp, Ozzy Osbourne, Johnny Cash, Joan Crawford, Princess Di, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Frollo from “Hunchback of Notre Dame”


  10. #50
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    The character (Phoebus) is probably sx/so, but the situation is rather sx/sp.



  11. #51
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    oh shit, frollo is the perfect E1 sx/sp exemplar


  12. #52
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    2) Broadcasting/Charisma - Display, broadcasting one's energy and reading the energy of others (not attunement - that is social, this is "where's the juice?"), phallic sending out signals of one's "feathers", what one is all about. Trying to intrigue and being intrigued. Peacocking. *this is not being aware of the other, attuned, connected or bonded*. Where the other "is at" is social. Projecting energy, trying to attract, "feelers" out looking for the juice. Trying to draw you in, like energetic "pheromones".






    EII sx/sp E 4

  13. #53
    Mega's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    France
    Posts
    426
    Mentioned
    54 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    @SisOfNight

    Sp/sx IMO?

  14. #54
    Olimpia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Europe
    TIM
    So/Sx Introvert
    Posts
    7,961
    Mentioned
    717 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default

    @Mega, I first thought Sp/Sx too, but … the image fit this quote quite well:

    sx/sp :: upward Death :: Metamorphosis and transmogrification. Being burned to death and born again into a body tuned to a higher vibration. Losing the self (dying) in the Other, in an upward peak of flame and ecstasy. The wet fire.

  15. #55
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    But..

    But anyway I get what you're saying, but I think it's different when it's expressed through art. It's like the expression of that vulnerable instinct in a safe, subliminal way.
    I think in the case of primary instincts the motivations are "peacocked" without the individual having to be consciously aware of it. Plenty of the pics in this thread are pretty explicitly "look at the sex woo hoo" (the girl with the snake, the water poured over lips, etc) in a rather explicit way instead of permeating effortlessly.

    Sx-primary doesn't imply a high sex drive, in the same way Te-primary doesn't imply a penchant for managerial business work.

  16. #56
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I think in the case of primary instincts the motivations are "peacocked" without the individual having to be consciously aware of it. Plenty of the pics in this thread are pretty explicitly "look at the sex woo hoo" (the girl with the snake, the water poured over lips, etc) in a rather explicit way instead of permeating effortlessly.

    Sx-primary doesn't imply a high sex drive, in the same way Te-primary doesn't imply a penchant for managerial business work.
    The girl with the snake is not a sexual image for me, although it is a bit sexy. It has no connection to my sex drive. Mine is quite low, most of the time, to be honest and I would rather go without sex if I don't feel an intense energy connection with someone to begin with. I need someone to pull me out of myself usually but I can take care of sex drive alone. The need for intensity and bonding usually requires me to have some kind of participation. It can take the form of the elements. A big frightening rain/thunderstorm can give me the same feeling as being in love if I am in the right state of mind. The image I posted of the girl with the snake is about looking past fear and potential danger for me and not being afraid to see what it on the inside or other side of it. Just like the girl with the leopard. That is what I mean by this stuff being highly symbolic. At least for me. I know someone who finds images of people wearing winter boots sexually arousing. One's person's porn can be another person's fall fashion catalog.

    The thing that is hardest for me to deal with sometimes is people are either extremely drawn to me (sometimes in scary ways) or they are put off by the way I express myself. irl no one ever seems to be neutral when it comes to me.

    Edit: It is ALL about energy. Physical stuff just isn't as important for me. I have walked away from everyone I loved and everything I own several times in pursuit of an experience. I am talking about complete households and expensive items, even my car. I know I can find ways to get all those things again but the experience may never come back around again. Do I want to be like this... sometimes I wish I wasn't. I probably wouldn't choose it if I saw the fine print beforehand.
    @Elina immersion is a good word! Sometimes it feels like possession and I am in need of a good exorcist to free me of my demons.
    Last edited by Aylen; 10-13-2014 at 11:41 PM.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  17. #57
    darya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    TIM
    EIE-Ni 3w4 sx
    Posts
    2,833
    Mentioned
    256 Post(s)
    Tagged
    6 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Sx-primary doesn't imply a high sex drive, in the same way Te-primary doesn't imply a penchant for managerial business work.
    No, ofc it doesn't imply high sex drive in itself or any higher than with other stackings for that matter, but to be perfectly honest, I would find it really unusual if a person with a strong sx primary would come off as asexual to others

  18. #58
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    No, ofc it doesn't imply high sex drive in itself or any higher than with other stackings for that matter, but to be perfectly honest, I would find it really unusual if a person with a strong sx primary would come off as asexual to others
    I come off as asexual to people sometimes

  19. #59
    darya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    TIM
    EIE-Ni 3w4 sx
    Posts
    2,833
    Mentioned
    256 Post(s)
    Tagged
    6 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I come off as asexual to people sometimes
    Why do you think that is (serious question)? Do you think you have a "healthy", functional relationship with your primary instinct or not? In what way do you relate to sx instinct (seeking intensity, one-on-one intimate connections,...?) I'd really like to understand different perspectives on this instinct and in what ways people relate to it, if you're willing to share

  20. #60
    Feeling fucking fantastic golden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Second story
    TIM
    EIE
    Posts
    3,724
    Mentioned
    250 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    I actually thought about posting bondage pics here myself, though, with the idea that they can symbolize fusion and passion and the feeling of being bound to someone as an sx first and so last. Like when you connect, you rly connect type of thing, and there's nothing else. Does that make sense for this stacking?
    Maybe, but I'm not sure that bondage stuff is just going to be sx-first. Maybe it is. There are the sensation people who aren't into the relationship part as much. There are people who feel safe and secure if they are dominated. There are people who are into the scene. There are those people who like, run some kind of old-fashioned household with the woman as a domestic slave. I dunno, lots of options.

  21. #61
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default

    My dream, which feels sx/sp to me, and an example of the way my brain interprets my outer and inner worlds into symbolism that I can later analyze and better understand myself with.

    I dreamt I'm in an old hotel that was once used as a mental institution. I am a little boy and my family and I are on vacation. Our friends are traveling with us. I feel very sick, my eyes look black and hollow and I am growing weaker… something isn't right. My hair is falling out and I am spitting up blood. My family is concerned. I stop eating then I start to get better. I want to find out what made me sick so I investigate. I discover my friend's mother is putting arsenic in the food. I got a heavy dose because I ate something that had a heavy concentration of the poison. I almost died or I did die. I can't remember.

    I can see spirits in the halls and rooms of the hotel. Many are distorted and demon-like. Some look like deformed animals. They lunge at me. I find ways to defeat them over and over. I am no longer a boy. I wonder, was that just a dream? I am still in the hotel and I have all the memories of the boy but now I am a teenage girl. This is another life. I found the boy with the dark, hollow eyes roaming the halls of the hotel. He is at rest now. The demons that haunted him are all in chains. I can see them. They still lunge at me when I pass but their chains are short. They can't touch me.

    A man arrives and informs my parents that we must stay at the hotel. I tell him that there are strange things happening there and some of us see demon spirits and they try to attack us but we have found ways to control them. The man explains that we are now the guardians of the hotel. Someone (seems like a brother to me) asks him how we can free the spirits there and the man says the hotel was not built to keep the demons and spirits out. It was built to keep them in. He says that my family has the power to hold them there. It is our destiny. We cannot leave the hotel and we can only release the spirits that are not demonic.

    We are living in the hotel and I am getting older (in my 20s). Now I see that there are other spirits there too. The demons torture and harass them. It is my "job" to protect them and to set them free. There is a glass room. Whoever or whatever is locked in the room will manifest their deepest desires or their deepest fears. I trick the demons into the room. I run and they chase me. I lead them into the room. Demons have their own fears. I see them manifest in the glass room and devour them. I want to go in the room but I wonder what I will manifest. I am apprehensive but I wait my turn. The room clears and then I walk in. I wait… nothing… Still waiting… I do not manifest my fears. Is it possible I am not afraid? The room does not discriminate whether it is fear or desire whatever is strongest will manifest. A little girl with long, curly, golden hair starts to slowly manifest in the corner of the glass room. She is 3 or 4 years old. I instantly recognize the girl is me but now I have to be a mother to myself. The room gives me back my childhood. Hmmm that is not my desire. I don't understand why. I have to take care of myself as a child.

    The little girl is so precocious. I can hardly keep up with her. She sees the spirits and the demons too. They are excited by her presence. They pull against their chains trying to get at her as she teases and taunts them in a playful childlike way. She is not afraid. I feel an energy in the hotel. It has no form but it is strong. It is trying to lure the girl into a room. I watch as the door opens by itself. All I can see is that the room is pitch black. The little girl wants to go in the room but I grab her by the hand and I tell my sister to seal off the room and that no one is to go in there ever. I do not know what is in there but it does not feel good. My sister takes her hand and waves it over a mirror and a misty fog covers the door of the room. It is sealed. The girl pulls free from my hand and is running and I am chasing her. More demons appear. She laughs as I confront them. They stand between the girl and me. I have no problem defeating them but they are becoming a nuisance and they are not very attractive to look at. The girl leads me into a room and I pick her up and put her on a table. I ask my sister to hold her while I do something but she gets away from my sister. She crawls through a small door (about 2 1/2 feet tall) in the room and I try to convince her to come out but she won't. She says she is going to find her father but I don't want her to. She motions for me to follow but I don't. I manage to pull her out of the door and quickly shut it. I sit against the door trying to catch my breath. My heart is racing.

    The scene changes. I am me as I am now… my current age. I have been in the hotel for so long. I want out but I was told I could not leave. I go to the front door and open it. Whoa, I thought I was locked in. I step outside and my black dress is now white. I take a deep breath. Mmmm, I can smell flowers and there is a gentle breeze. I walk away from the hotel. I see a man standing there like he was waiting for something. It is ********… huh? hahahah What is he doing in my dream??? I start running toward him and I jump into his arms and wrap my legs around his waist and my arms around his neck. He wraps his arms around me to hold me up. Eeek, I realize I am totally naked and I am self-conscious because there are people all around us but then I quickly decide I don't look too bad naked so it doesn't matter. I start telling him about the little boy, and the hotel spirits and demons. He is smiling at me and I suddenly understand that his attention is not on the story I'm telling. Duh! He starts walking toward a beautiful garden with me still naked in his arms. I wake up.

     



    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  22. #62
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Why do you think that is (serious question)?
    1) I'm a giant god damn nerd
    2) I have a rather low sex drive, and I tend to naturally avoid people who have theirs higher. Comes off as obnoxious and try-hard
    3) Very rarely have I ever been in a position where I could express sexual interest towards someone and have that feeling reciprocated. I eventually learn to tune it out I guess

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Do you think you have a "healthy", functional relationship with your primary instinct or not?
    Iunno, I tend to feel very stifled in that department. Like I'm intentionally walling myself off from what feels natural just to exist without fear of castigation.

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    In what way do you relate to sx instinct (seeking intensity, one-on-one intimate connections,...?) I'd really like to understand different perspectives on this instinct and in what ways people relate to it, if you're willing to share
    I think of myself as a very hyper-focused individual. When I'm psychologically stimulated enough, my mind goes completely myopic and I find it hard to drag myself away from whatever's captivating me. A love interest, film, song; whatever engages me the most in the moment. It's a certain sort of intensity seeking; not necessarily a viscerally physical one (although I love roller coasters like a motherfucker), but more like a hyper-sentimentalized weaving inward of sorts. Shit I'm largely uncomfortable with talking to a group of internet pixels about.
    Last edited by Galen; 10-15-2014 at 01:54 PM.

  23. #63
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    It's unrealistic to expect a stack to manifest itself the same way for everyone. I don't really identify with the last post - except for the part on the laser-focus and the complete immersion in something (someone) activating and energizing. My responses to people are usually visceral and kind of radical: there's hardly much grey area between attraction and repulsion. Of course I'm also drawn to people's personalities, but chemistry is not really an abstract notion for me. I cannot easily ignore such things and simply lock myself in an ivory tower. It would be very unnatural. This can also lead me in trouble. I can spend much time on activities that are not very productive simply because they catch me in their grip and keep me charged. Or I happened to fall for people who were not exactly the wisest options on the market, so to speak. I don't want to get into much detail, but just as an example: my LSI official SO was one of my teachers and comfortably married when we met. Although we were not together until he separated, I couldn't really find my peace until he did. Did it matter that the effect of our common Sx first was the breaking of a marriage desired only by one party? No, it did not.
    I think there was a sub-classification of stackings which could be operational in explaining some differences, if mere personality is not enough:
    http://typewatchenneagram.blogspot.de/
    Last edited by Amber; 10-14-2014 at 02:11 PM.

  24. #64
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    I think there was a sub-classification of stackings which could be operational in explaining some differences, if mere personality is not enough:
    http://typewatchenneagram.blogspot.de/
    I like these descriptions, if for no other reason than that they imagine the instincts as on a continuum of valuation.

  25. #65
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    sx/sp more like beta fuckfest

  26. #66
    . willekeurig's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    1,506
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    No, ofc it doesn't imply high sex drive in itself or any higher than with other stackings for that matter, but to be perfectly honest, I would find it really unusual if a person with a strong sx primary would come off as asexual to others
    Not so long ago @Aquagraph used to jokingly inform people I'm frigid, because that's apparently how I came across to him/others (he's sx/so). I don't think I've been typed as anything else than sx/sp by anyone. The descriptions for sx/sp don't seem to suggest overtly obvious/outward sexual behavious either:

    This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating. Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union. Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer Examples of sx/sp: Prince, Carl Jung, Johnny Depp, Ozzy Osbourne, Johnny Cash, Joan Crawford, Princess Di, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Frollo from “Hunchback of Notre Dame”
    Ime, so/sx and maybe sx/so types have been the most intentionally showy in their sexuality. The type of people who might dress up suggestively, playfully flirt with their friends, pretending they're a stripper/hooker/drag queen/whatever, take pictures like the one with the snake in this thread. At least in my circles they have also been the most likely ones to go hunt for one-night-stands, and find themselfes attracted to a big variety of people. I can see how I might come across as a nitpicky prude compared to them.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Axis of Evil: Iran, Iraq, North Korea and Agarina
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan
    Agarina does not like human beings; she just wants a pretty boy toy.
    Johari Nohari

  27. #67
    darya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    TIM
    EIE-Ni 3w4 sx
    Posts
    2,833
    Mentioned
    256 Post(s)
    Tagged
    6 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    Not so long ago @Aquagraph used to jokingly inform people I'm frigid, because that's apparently how I came across to him/others (he's sx/so). I don't think I've been typed as anything else than sx/sp by anyone. The descriptions for sx/sp don't seem to suggest overtly obvious/outward sexual behavious either:
    Hehe, actually I can count people that I know and come across asexual to me on one hand (ok, maybe two). I think we have different definitions. In my vocabulary, prude or uptight doesn't mean asexual. It's more like, ok, this person is uptight at this moment, but he has a lot of potential And asexual seeming is ...well, asexual , like you can't imagine this person having sex ever, because he seems like he's not interested at all (and totally removed from all human sexuality).

    I don't link overtly obvious sexual behaviors with sx firsts at all, I was talking more about the general vibe of the person. And in my experience, when I get a strong asexual feeeling, it's usually from sx lasts. I don't know you personally, but from what you write, I kinda doubt that's the deal with you

    Ime, so/sx and maybe sx/so types have been the most intentionally showy in their sexuality. The type of people who might dress up suggestively, playfully flirt with their friends, pretending they're a stripper/hooker/drag queen/whatever, take pictures like the one with the snake in this thread. At least in my circles they have also been the most likely ones to go hunt for one-night-stands, and find themselfes attracted to a big variety of people. I can see how I might come across as a nitpicky prude compared to them.
    Yeah, I agree, it's usually connected to some of sp last people - it's the interplay of sx and so that does this, sp doesn't hold them back. But most people don't walk around close to anything resembling strippers, no matter their instincts.

    Sx/sp people I know (surprisingly small number, now that I think of it), are pretty reserved and none of them is promiscuous at all. They're also not showy or attention seeking in a sexual way. But they're still kinda subtly flirty, actually they're very hot lol. But you know, these things are probably connected to the E type as well. If you're E1, you will come off a bit more uptight from the get-go

  28. #68
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default

    *deletes rant*

    "He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man"

    Caught here in a fiery blaze, won't lose my will to stay.
    I tried to drive all through the night,
    The heat stroke ridden weather, the barren empty sights.
    No oasis here to see, the sand is singing deathless words to me.

    Can't you help me as I'm startin' to burn (all alone).
    Too many doses and I'm starting to get an attraction.
    My confidence is leaving me on my own (all alone).
    No one can save me and you know I don't want the attention.

    As I adjust to my new sights the rarely tired lights will take me to new heights.
    My hand is on the trigger I'm ready to ignite.
    Tomorrow might not make it but everything's all right.
    Mental fiction, follow me; show me what it's like to be set free

    Can't you help me as I'm startin' to burn (all alone).
    Too many doses and I'm starting to get an attraction.
    My confidence is leaving me on my own (all alone).
    No one can save me and you know I don't want the attention.

    So sorry you're not here I've been chained too long my vision's so unclear.
    Now take a trip with me but don't be surprised when things aren't what they seem.

    Caught here in a fiery blaze, won't lose my will to stay.
    These eyes won't see the same, after I flip today.

    Sometimes I don't know why we'd rather live than die,
    We look up towards the sky for answers to our lives.
    We may get some solutions but most just pass us by,
    Don't want your absolution cause I can't make it right.
    I'll make a beast out of myself, gets rid of all the pain of being a man.

    Can't you help me as I'm startin' to burn (all alone).
    Too many doses and I'm starting to get an attraction.
    My confidence is leaving me on my own (all alone).
    No one can save me and you know I don't want the attention.

    So sorry you're not here I've been sane too long my vision's so unclear.
    Now take a trip with me but don't be surprised when things aren't what they seem.
    I've known it from the start all these good ideas will tear your brain apart.
    Scared but you can follow me I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die.
    Last edited by Aylen; 10-16-2014 at 09:43 PM.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  29. #69
    . willekeurig's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    1,506
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Hehe, actually I can count people that I know and come across asexual to me on one hand (ok, maybe two). I think we have different definitions. In my vocabulary, prude or uptight doesn't mean asexual. It's more like, ok, this person is uptight at this moment, but he has a lot of potential And asexual seeming is ...well, asexual , like you can't imagine this person having sex ever, because he seems like he's not interested at all (and totally removed from all human sexuality). I don't link overtly obvious sexual behaviors with sx firsts at all, I was talking more about the general vibe of the person. And in my experience, when I get a strong asexual feeeling, it's usually from sx lasts. I don't know you personally, but from what you write, I kinda doubt that's the deal with you
    Hmm.. I'm not really prudish or uptight, quite the opposite actually. But I'm not sure how come across to others. I think the reason Aquagraph found calling me a frigid so funny was the conflict between my outward appearance and true self, so to speak. From a distance it could seem like I was really dispassionate had zero interest in sex (how you described apparent asexuality), while in reality I was quite the opposite, just with incredibly high standards and no desire to express my sexuality around those I was not interested in.

    However, I also relate to what you said about sx-lasts seeming asexual. The difference, for me, has seemed to be that Sx/Sp:s look asexual from a distance, but hardly after you've gotten to know them a bit. With Sx lasts the asexual feel might or might not be apparent at first, but will become/stay so after getting to know them really well. This is all highly unscientific of couse, but intuitively/from my experiences it makes sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Sx/sp people I know (surprisingly small number, now that I think of it), are pretty reserved and none of them is promiscuous at all. They're also not showy or attention seeking in a sexual way. But they're still kinda subtly flirty, actually they're very hot lol. But you know, these things are probably connected to the E type as well. If you're E1, you will come off a bit more uptight from the get-go
    I relate to the first part of your description a lot. Did you mean unconsciously flirty by subtly flirty? Because that might be true to me - at least I evoke strong responses in people, both positive and negative. And I have a fairly easy time creating an intimate atmosphere with someone I'm interested in without applying much conscious strategies of effort, but that might be more Fi-related than Sx-related.

    I'm not too familiar with etypes tbh, my typing is based on someone whose opinion I value as typing me E1. He said Sx primary in Ones can often manifest at rule-breaking (as opposed to the rigid appreciation rules that's stereotypical for ones?), which I relate to a lot, though I guess it's not completely wrong to say I am in a way uptight about breaking rules/norms I perceive as harmful. Like, I have a hard time accepting the way my parents want to do everything by the book even if it's inefficient or the rules don't make any sense. If you feel like theorising more about how Sx/Sp might manifest in different Etypes, I'll be very interested. I always wondered how Sx/Sp might work for EXFp:s or Fe-egos, for example..
    Last edited by willekeurig; 10-16-2014 at 07:41 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by 1981slater View Post
    Axis of Evil: Iran, Iraq, North Korea and Agarina
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa Darmandzhyan
    Agarina does not like human beings; she just wants a pretty boy toy.
    Johari Nohari

  30. #70
    Olimpia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Europe
    TIM
    So/Sx Introvert
    Posts
    7,961
    Mentioned
    717 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default



    sx/sp
    Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.


    Last edited by Olimpia; 10-20-2014 at 08:02 PM.

  31. #71
    Olimpia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Europe
    TIM
    So/Sx Introvert
    Posts
    7,961
    Mentioned
    717 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default


  32. #72
    Haikus
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    2,597
    Mentioned
    103 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    The wet fire.
    Perhaps, but I set the standard for it. Because in my sphere of isolation, without any reference beyond myself. I am truly the God of my existance. How ever futile that may seem. It's all the security I need in order to appear well fortified, balanced and calm when dealing with shit that's exterior to my very core.

  33. #73
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    Perhaps, but I set the standard for it. Because in my sphere of isolation, without any reference beyond myself. I am truly the God of my existance. How ever futile that may seem. It's all the security I need in order to appear well fortified, balanced and calm when dealing with shit that's exterior to my very core.
    I have no idea what this means and cannot relate to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    disagreed

  34. #74
    Queen of the Damned Aylen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Spiritus Mundi
    TIM
    psyche 4w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    11,347
    Mentioned
    1005 Post(s)
    Tagged
    42 Thread(s)

    Default

    Silke and Olly both said something that reminded me of this song. I am not even going to try and explain it.




    Hair of gold and eyes like stormy seas
    You say you love me, want to marry me
    And as I'm looking for the wedding ring
    You say I don't have to spend anything

    Stay with me, we'll be closer than the stars
    Sunday I'll be gone

    Your dad gave up on you so long ago
    Your mother is someone you do not know
    You have no money and you still get by
    Everything I say makes you cry

    Stay with me, we'll be closer than the stars
    Sunday I'll be gone
    You can wear all the colors that you want
    Sunday I'll be gone

    What am I supposed to do
    Sit around and wait for you
    You ask for nothing and you want
    Everything

    You want to take another photograph
    Say it makes you think of me
    If it only took a photograph
    I think you'd still be here with me

    Stay with me, we'll be closer than the stars
    Sunday I'll be gone
    And you can wear all the colors that you want
    Sunday I'll be gone

    Yeah, Sunday I'll be gone

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
    YWIMW

  35. #75
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    http://www.arthistoryarchive.com/arthistory/modern/Georgia-OKeeffe.htm l


    "Georgia O'Keeffe gained worldwide fame for her austere minimalist paintings of the US Southwest. "

    “I do not like the idea of happiness — it is too momentary — I would say that I was always busy and interested in something — interest has more meaning to me than the idea of happiness.”

    "Artists and religionists are never far apart, they go to the sources of revelation for what they choose to experience and what they report is the degree of their experiences. Intellect wishes to arrange - intuition wishes to accept."


    Last edited by Amber; 10-21-2014 at 02:22 PM.

  36. #76
    Olimpia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Europe
    TIM
    So/Sx Introvert
    Posts
    7,961
    Mentioned
    717 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default


  37. #77
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    So far I only have O'Keeffe and Klimt as sx/sp. Probably also John Atkinson Grimshaw by way of VI and the content of his paintings (although mainly landscapes, there's a stifling quality in most of his art and subtle interplays of darkness and light). Maybe someone else has extra suggestions.
    Last edited by Amber; 10-21-2014 at 07:30 PM.

  38. #78
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Franz Marc - Tiger







    Fighting Forms





    (German expressionist)
    Last edited by Amber; 10-22-2014 at 12:28 AM.

  39. #79
    you can go to where your heart is Galen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    8,459
    Mentioned
    206 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I can't resonate with any of the images posted on this page. Too many pretty faces, not enough badass bar brawls.
    Last edited by Galen; 10-22-2014 at 06:05 AM.

  40. #80
    Haikus
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Berlin
    TIM
    LSI 5w6 sx/so
    Posts
    5,402
    Mentioned
    144 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I can't resonate with any of the images posted on this page. Too many pretty faces, not enough badass bar brawls.

    Lilith is a classic bitch who eats babies and reins over a whole bunch of succubi. I chose an aesthetically relevant image, man. Some researchers say the biblical snake is actually only a metaphor for this first wife of adam banished from eden for more or less obscured reasons. Lemme get more commercial.




Page 2 of 38 FirstFirst 12345612 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •